THE BACHELORETTE - SEASON 12 - JOJO FLETCHER - **NO SPOILERS** - SCaps - *SLEUTHING* DISCUSSION

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veg_out wrote: ^Great deductions and hypotheses, @rhondam, but for JoJo. I'd like to hope that Jo is the hero of her own story, meaning that she really does embrace the idea that she deserves something different from her past experiences. Maybe Jordan turns it all around, but he is starting to feel like Ed to me. That could be the crux though: Jillian went with her heart despite the ways that he let her down.

I still wonder if this season isn't closer to Ali and Des' seasons. The previews are similar and both women were brought in to give her advice. If so, the lead "gets over" the original F1 who leaves her to choose a guy who seems like a better match.

We'll see what happens with Chase next week and Luke to see if they are viable F1s.

rhondam wrote:
So Veg.... Are you saying you think the Ali, Des, Kaitlyn scene was filmed AFTER JoJo's season was complete? 

Another thing that wouldn't work in my theory, is if Jordan did leave, how does she get from that heartbreak to smiling and canoodling with Chase in the boat, on the beach and in the water? I don't think SHE could do an about face like that. But the biggest glaring factor of all, that I cannot ignore, is how very little she mentions Chase in her blogs. That is always on my mind when thinking of her ending. 

rhondam wrote:I haven't examined the SCs yet but I'm trying to read between the lines and have some guesses.

Jordan's reasons for being there are brought to her attention by the guys. Along with her uneasiness about him he's sick of being doubted (or he's legitimately there for the wrong reasons) and decides he's had enough and leaves on his own at the Ep 7 RC. We see her pretty upset in the blue sparkly dress with the plane in the background.

Now he's gone—no HTD, no FD = no SCs. 

With Jordan out of the picture and Luke and JoJo starting to stall a bit, Chase becomes more of a contender and a possible reason for the abundance of camera pans and short ITMs thus far. 

She is still happy with Robby but Alex is in her ear about his recent serious girlfriend causing her to worry because of: ex-Chad, Ben and now Jordan. 

Robby, Chase and Luke are the only HTDs. Robby and Chase are the only FD. 

It's now 1-1/2 or 2 weeks since Jordan left and he realizes what he's walked away from and comes back just in time for a FD of his own where he and Jo talk things over. She's still hurt and has doubts but tells him she will think about it. 

She decides she doesn't want to mistrust him forever more so decides to listen to her head even though her heart wants what her heart wants. She says, "I'm so scared to let him go."

Jordan arrives at FRC with a ring and she says, "I fell in love with you. And I still love you but what you did to me, it's not right. [But I wanted you to know] it's really hard for me to not accept this love." but I must and she hugs him goodbye. She walks from the set and says to Elán, "I just said goodbye to a man that I—love."

Robby comes with with a ring and is ready to propose or without a ring and says he'd like to continue with their relationship in the real world. She says yes and they kiss and kiss and kiss for what feels like forever. 

OR 

She decides to follow her heart and despite all doubts, she will say yes to Jordan if he proposes. She knows that Robby is reliable, loves her and would treat her well for the rest of her life. Elán says ok into his headset and says to Jo, ready? She says, "I'm so scared to let him go." She walks over to the set. 

Robby comes with a ring and is ready to propose or without and says he'd like to continue with their relationship in the real world. She says I'm so sorry, I just love another man....more. She walks from the set and says to Elán, "I just said goodbye to a man that I—love." 

Jordan arrives at FRC with a ring and she says, "I fell in love with you. And I still love you but what you did to me, it's not right. [But I wanted you to know] it's really hard for me to not accept this love." so I'm not going to accept it. Yes. Yes. Yes I'll marry you! and they kiss and kiss and kiss for what feels like forever.

There is SC of Jordan at his hometown date with JJ so he makes it to hometowns
The End.