Re: Bachelor New Zealand - Jordan Mauger - Season 2 - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing* - *Spoilers*

by AllAboutLove Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:25 pm

Katiebelle wrote:

I have a question for everyone. Why did TPTB use the excuse that Jordan was not comfortable with the subject of Rebecca's thesis as the reason for her elimination? Why not just say the connection wasn't there like with the other girls?

They must have known that the truth would come out about Jordan and the producers already knowing about the content of the thesis once Rebecca was interviewed by the media. It's strange!

That's what has been bothering me too. They even posted on FB last week "We love you" to Rebecca. That seems very pro-Rebecca to me...

Something is off for sure and it is making their lead not look good, imo, especially since their lead is MIA from media but Rebecca gets to speak out and let everyone know that Jordan was full of it when he acted like he had just heard Rebecca for the first time talking about her studies.

And that is also why I am not 100% buying that it was producer driven on Jordan's part - he acted truly surprised and switched off. And if it is producer driven then it hurts Jordan as the lead to look fake far more by having Jordan do that so he was being a puppet which is never a good look for a lead.

As @Melissa_Jane said and I posted at the beginning of this season when no media was happening for Jordan - this season is starting to feel like Bach AU S2 all over again and although I will be shocked if it ends up at Blake's did, I won't be shocked if Jordan is not well-liked by viewers the way Blake was not liked by the end of all this.

by snowyglow12 Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:47 pm

Is it possible Rebecca wanted to leave? Something weird is going on this season. Did anyone notice Rebecca's face in Epi 10 when Jordan went all caveman carrying Naz over his shoulder? Rebecca looked appalled and disgusted to me. That was the night of the "Nazereth" name bullying. I'm thinking that some more stuff went down off camera with maybe production or Jordan stepping in. I think they had to convince some girls to stay on the show. This is all speculation but something is surely not right this season it seems. Maybe starting hometowns more media will occur with Jordan or maybe it won't (thanks Shari...miss her).

by AllAboutLove Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:02 pm

snowyglow12 wrote:Is it possible Rebecca wanted to leave? Something weird is going on this season. Did anyone notice Rebecca's face in Epi 10 when Jordan went all caveman carrying Naz over his shoulder? Rebecca looked appalled and disgusted to me. That was the night of the "Nazereth" name bullying. I'm thinking that some more stuff went down off camera with maybe production or Jordan stepping in. I think they had to convince some girls to stay on the show. This is all speculation but something is surely not right this season it seems. Maybe starting hometowns more media will occur with Jordan or maybe it won't (thanks Shari...miss her).

I am not sure. It's impossible to know for sure if Rebecca's reaction was what they tried to edit it for or not. She could have pulled a face because something in the air smelled and they edited it in at that point. If her reaction was towards Naz then that was a shared reaction by most of the girls and viewers too. I actually think Naz's edit is not as bad as it could have been which is what makes me think it is softened due to Jordan's decisions regarding Naz. Naz on her SM has been displaying not so great behavior either. Some real ewww tweets and IG posts by her. She seems to really seek the attention.

by Guest Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:16 pm

Katiebelle wrote: @Melissa_Jane - nice to have you back again.

I have a question for everyone. Why did TPTB use the excuse that Jordan was not comfortable with the subject of Rebecca's thesis as the reason for her elimination? Why not just say the connection wasn't there like with the other girls?

They must have known that the truth would come out about Jordan and the producers already knowing about the content of the thesis once Rebecca was interviewed by the media. It's strange!

Bad edits. They wanted drama somewhere because the girls could not bring any?

by Guest Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:18 pm

can someone define media for me?

Because for me magazines interviews are medias. and so far Jordan did a couple already so from my perspective he is not MIA

by AllAboutLove Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:28 pm

Regarding media for Bach NZ:

From the early discussions when talking media for Bach NZ and Jordan not doing much it is regards to radio mostly (and some tv) since that is the only way to actually hear and see Jordan other than what is just printed in magazines. In magazines/blog what is written may or may not be his actual words since don't see/hear him say those things.

It is standard for all shows/franchises that the lead is seen and heard doing media and does tv media and radio media (radio in particular for NZ and AU shows much more than TV).

Art did lots of radio and media rounds (TV, website videos even for blogs/magazines) right from the beginning and while the show was airing. Jordan he has done zero radio interviews and only one tv show (The Cafe) that wasn't really an interview at all about him as the lead.

So it is more about media where Jordan is seen and heard which is not able to be done by written interviews.

by Guest Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:32 pm

In my opinion, Naz is not that bad. The association with Claudia made her look bad and because she is the only girl who has a strong character and takes matter in her own hands to get what she wants, does not mean to me that she is a terrible person.

Yes, she pretended (IMO) to be afraid of water and still pretended (IMO) to never did moto. At the end of the day, she made sure to be noticed by Jordan.

Lets remember that Jordan like strong women who know what they want.

Regarding Rebecca, we are still far from hometown and overnight and Rebecca had her date far away at the beginning of the season. So (still and always IMO) to think that we have another Blake/Louise is quite stretchy. Plus if the guy did not fall for her, it does not mean he is a bad guy or she is a bad girl. Chemistry was just not there.

I never ever take for face value what I see on my TV. It was said a billion times (included Fleiss) that they have a script, have hundred and hundred of hours taped, and at the end, they select what they need to create their scenario.

How many girls told afterwards that they had to repeat again in all possible ways the same things?

For me frontrunners are still Storm, Naz and Fleur. For the other girls, he spent a great time, nice sweet girls, move on.

by Guest Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:35 pm

Thanks @AllAboutLove

Art was definitely promoting his (first) season to the public.

I have no explanation for Jordan.

by snowyglow12 Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:23 pm

Maybe he pulled a switcheroo or picked no one....who knows
Maybe he broke up with his pick already. Maybe he's just not happy with the show. I guess a few more weeks and we'll know what's up.

by Guest Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:28 pm

Yes @snowyglow12 we already explored this possibility.

IMO because he has a poker face and is out of medias loop, it is difficult to understand.

Hometown will definitely be better for us to understand where he stands IMO

Right now, for me, I just feel as if he is a bee going from flower to flower and smell the one who is nicer, then go back and try again because he is not sure which one he prefers.

But joke aside, this is exactly what a bachelor does among so many girls. He tries to narrow down the numbers until he has 2 or 3.

The main issue is that most bachelor give clues to his F1 and so far, I do not think anybody is certain of anything right now.

by Melissa_Jane Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:11 am

AllAboutLove wrote:
Katiebelle wrote:

I have a question for everyone. Why did TPTB use the excuse that Jordan was not comfortable with the subject of Rebecca's thesis as the reason for her elimination? Why not just say the connection wasn't there like with the other girls?

They must have known that the truth would come out about Jordan and the producers already knowing about the content of the thesis once Rebecca was interviewed by the media. It's strange!

That's what has been bothering me too. They even posted on FB last week "We love you" to Rebecca. That seems very pro-Rebecca to me...

Something is off for sure and it is making their lead not look good, IMO, especially since their lead is MIA from media but Rebecca gets to speak out and let everyone know that Jordan was full of it when he acted like he had just heard Rebecca for the first time talking about her studies.

hi sisters ...wishing, hoping, dreaming I get more time to hang here in the fuN :yes:

Question....Is it fact, That Pie, Jordy Pie knew Rebecca's past?
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by Melissa_Jane Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:22 am

HEA wrote:Yes @snowyglow12 we already explored this possibility.

IMO because he has a poker face and is out of medias loop, it is difficult to understand.

Hometown will definitely be better for us to understand where he stands IMO

Right now, for me, I just feel as if he is a bee going from flower to flower and smell the one who is nicer, then go back and try again because he is not sure which one he prefers.

But joke aside, this is exactly what a bachelor does among so many girls. He tries to narrow down the numbers until he has 2 or 3.
Oh ....so poor pie boy (dirty street pie, Boy). .... Too many beautiful girls !!! Is that your problem?

The main issue is that most bachelor give clues to his F1 and so far, I do not think anybody is certain of anything right now.

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