The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Episode 8 - HTD - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

ForeverLove wrote:Wow, so the ex shows up for Jojo. How is this not contrived regarding the timing and all unless the brothers are sympathetic to the ex and gave him the heads up to be there. Hmm.

Kashathediva wrote:

ForeverLove wrote:Wow, so the ex shows up for Jojo. How is this not contrived regarding the timing and all unless the brothers are sympathetic to the ex and gave him the heads up to be there. Hmm.

As far as I'm concerned, imo, it's totally contrived/scripted/planned as much as the bird funeral or any other spoof for the HTD.  Plus these people are versed and familiar with reality tv. No sweat off their backs.

Kashathediva wrote:For many recent years, I was close to someone who did editing for reality tv shows. The scripting involved is very enlightening. JoJo's family have now been through 2 reality shows. What is the possibility this is all spontaneous reaction? I say 0.

Fingersandtoes wrote:I'm so calling out JoJo and her family for involving her ex  to all this contrived drama. Her ex wouldn't just show up uninvited without their full permission and without signing contracts and all that. And IMO JoJo is fully aware, and maybe Ben is too. And for her family try to call out Ben for playing mind games. 

Ben and Lauren look so cute.

The cameras are so close. Crazy!

ForeverLove wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:For many recent years, I was close to someone who did editing for reality tv shows. The scripting involved is very enlightening. JoJo's family have now been through 2 reality shows. What is the possibility this is all spontaneous reaction? I say 0.

So what are your thoughts of Jojo being there for the "right reasons" vs higher aspirations ? Meaning a 3rd time on a reality show? I said her brothers reminded me of Kardashi-men. Are they shooting for their own reality show? Auditioning? I didn't know about her brother's previous stint nor Jojo's. And on a similar show. Too interesting and loved your insights.

jojo47 wrote:Here is the description for HTD's:

“Episode 2008” – The stakes are high as Ben crisscrosses the country on an exciting, emotionally  charged journey to visit the final four women’s hometowns. Ben travels to Orange County, CA to meet Amanda, the single mother with two adorable little girls, but her concerned parents wonder if he is ready to be an immediate full-time dad. Lauren B. shows Ben around her hometown of Portland, OR, but he must face serious questions from her sister. Caila shares some places with Ben that she holds near and dear to her in Hudson, OH; however, her father subjects the Bachelor to a grilling to see if he is worthy of his daughter. Finally, Ben is off to Dallas to meet Jo Jo, only to find her in tears as an unexpected surprise threatens to derail their romance. Ben must make a gut-wrenching decision to narrow the field to three women. Will one of them be his wife? Find out on “The Bachelor,” airing MONDAY, FEBRUARY 22 (8:00-10:01 p.m. EST) on the ABC Television Network. 

Amanda introduces Ben to her two daughters at the beach, and he attempts to win them over. However, the bachelorette’s parents question whether he is ready to take on the responsibilities of being a full-time dad and loving husband. Is this ready-made family too much too soon for the Bachelor?

Lauren B. share a wonderful, fun-filled afternoon of sightseeing, visiting local food trucks and grabbing a drink at a genuine whiskey museum. Later on, Ben gets emotional as he is confronted with serious questions from her sister. She is worried about how deep his feelings can be when there are still three other women in the picture.
Caila shows Ben her high school and her father’s toy factory – two places that are important to her. Her father only wants what’s best for her and cross examines Ben. Will this interrogation give the Bachelor second thoughts about their future as a couple?

The biggest shocker awaits Ben in Dallas when he arrives to see Jo Jo. An ex-boyfriend suddenly appears, trying to get back in her good graces. Ben finds things go from bad to worse as Jo Jo’s two older brothers are less than pleased with how their sister is searching for love. They are convinced she is headed for heartache. Will a dramatic face-off between Ben and the brothers put Ben’s relationship with Jo Jo in danger?

One stunned and devastated bachelorette is headed home and both the woman and Ben are left emotionally drained. The road to love has become increasingly difficult, but Ben may be one step closer to finding his soulmate. His next adventure awaits as the Bachelor and the final three women head to the exotic island of Jamaica.
 
The four remaining women are:
Amanda, 25, esthetician, Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
 Caila, 24, software sales representative, Hudson, OH
 Joelle “Jo Jo,” 24, real estate developer, Dallas, TX
 Lauren B., 25, flight attendant, Marina Del Rey, CA
 

Source: http://www.disneyabcpress.com/abc/shows/the-bachelor/episodes/2008-2/

Tiggerlgh wrote:I think JoJo was meant to be the F3 and the next Bette but Ben sending Becca home pushed her to F2.  Which ties into CHs this changes everything. But they  couldn't show us that portion of the conversation as it would give too much away.  IMHO.  Now I think the next Bette could be Becca, Jojo, Calia of Amanda.  Of those I hope it s Jojo.

veg_out wrote:

Tiggerlgh wrote:I think JoJo was meant to be the F3 and the next Bette but Ben sending Becca home pushed her to F2.  Which ties into CHs this changes everything. But they  couldn't show us that portion of the conversation as it would give too much away.  IMHO.  Now I think the next Bette could be Becca, Jojo, Calia of Amanda.  Of those I hope it s Jojo.

Tigs, who do you think was F2 then before he dumped Becca?

I think that the way that things played out last night wasn't the plan. I think that his F3 originally were Lauren, JoJo, and Becca with Amanda and Caila as the wild card 4th place. He started to waver on Becca in the Bahamas.

I also think that next week is another game changer for Ben and might explain his "insanity" the last two episodes of the season (that's what I'm calling the FSD/I love you/crying part of this season). I almost wonder if the JoJo HTD antics weren't a way to get her cut. Are we sure that she makes it to the F2? It would make so much more sense for him to take Caila to F2; she'd have been hurt, but you can see that they aren't on the same page at all.