Joelle Fletcher - (JoJo) - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

hdman wrote:Sorry but I think JoJo leaves this week because of the ex not being an ex.

I think JoJo stays to F2 and Caila leaves this week. That said, I think if Ben gets Lauren he really doesn't care who F2 and F3 are so he'd let the show pick the order. And IMO it's possible that once the show figured the ex wasn't really an ex they slotted JoJo as F2 because they weren't going to get her for the next lead anyway.

Jeepers wrote:For some reason I heard before the season started airing that one of the F2 had a boyfriend to go home to .. But for the life of me I can't recall where or when I heard it

Well I heard the same thing during Jason's season but it took a long time to figure out which one of the F2 had the BF; it really wasn't until she wrote a book telling the whole story. It's funny that it took me several days after seeing the flowers and the letter for the similarity to ever occur to me.

From Jillian's blog

JOJO… she’s been my fav since the beginning … she’s ready, HOT, cute, has great style (have you followed her on Instagram??? OMG BOMBSHELL!!! But … her hometown was such a disaster!! I love her parents and while I’m sure her brothers reactions were part producers, part the microscope of the show … I for some reason wouldn’t want to marry into THAT! There was something about her brothers I didn’t love … and I feel like Ben felt the same way. For me, family is SO important, and I hope this doesn’t deter him from picking her!! As you can see Jojo is still my front runner right now!

http://www.jillianharris.com/hometowns-heartbreaks-think-ben-will-pick/

Wow Jillian...tell us how you really feel! As for JoJo leaving early, I don't see that happening. I believe both girls will be at the FRC. Didn't Jake cry over the railing when he let Tenley go or did I imagine that?

I see that JoJo's brother Ben (@Ben_Patton) is following Ben on Twitter, so the HTD couldn't have been THAT much of a disaster. Is the other brother on Twitter?

is he really? :O that's weird. it gives some hope to BenJo believers I guess

Both of her brothers do a ton of charity work and are involved in philanthropic endeavors from what I've seen through a Google search and social media. They have similarly traveled to other countries to help out like Ben has. The brothers (especially the older one) might have come off as opinionated on the HTD, but in real life, I could see them getting along with Ben.

Perhaps the brothers and Ben could get along at some point, but I also think Ben was pretty blindsided by this HTD. First, he's been trying to coax JoJo into being able to open up after being hurt by an ex BF and finds out that the ex BF now wants her back, and that situation and phone call leave JoJo in tears and emotional. And to make matters worse, apparently Ben has a past history of an ex coming back into the picture that didn't turn out well for Ben.

Then, he meets the rest of her family and her brothers turn on him. Now skeptical is fine and protective is fine but attacking Ben on his honesty and integrity is not fine - that could have been handled with much greater respect than they showed to Ben, IMO.

Either one of these events, in real life (and IMO much of this is real to Ben) could be enough to force a reassessment of any consideration Ben could have had before that date of picking JoJo. Any alternative choice would seem to be a lower risk IMO than choosing JoJo even if she had been a front runner going in. But I don't think she was a front runner going in - maybe an alternate in case his front runner turned out to be unpick able at the end. After that date, my advice to Ben would be "Run Ben - run fast and far".

JMHO

Run, Forrest, Run!

Lucas15 wrote:Perhaps the brothers and Ben could get along at some point, but I also think Ben was pretty blindsided by this HTD. First, he's been trying to coax JoJo into being able to open up after being hurt by an ex BF and finds out that the ex BF now wants her back, and that situation and phone call leave JoJo in tears and emotional. And to make matters worse, apparently Ben has a past history of an ex coming back into the picture that didn't turn out well for Ben.

Then, he meets the rest of her family and her brothers turn on him. Now skeptical is fine and protective is fine but attacking Ben on his honesty and integrity is not fine - that could have been handled with much greater respect than they showed to Ben, IMO.

Either one of these events, in real life (and IMO much of this is real to Ben) could be enough to force a reassessment of any consideration Ben could have had before that date of picking JoJo. Any alternative choice would seem to be a lower risk IMO than choosing JoJo even if she had been a front runner going in. But I don't think she was a front runner going in - maybe an alternate in case his front runner turned out to be unpick able at the end. After that date, my advice to Ben would be "Run Ben - run fast and far".

JMHO

To each their own. I tend to agree with some of the past contestants that have said JoJo's HTD is how they all should be (Brooks said this on Afterbuzz, Ali on Twitter, etc). Could the older brother have calmed down with his tone? Sure. But I thought pretty much everything they were saying was valid. I don't view what I see on my television every Monday night to be reality because a lot of it isn't. What is real is that her two brothers are very involved with charity and philanthropic endeavors. Both of her parents work in the medical field. They all appear to be accomplished and involved with their faith. I'm not sure I would tell someone to run fast and far because of what was shown on a reality television show, when IMO, a lot of the questions and concerns needed to be asked and shown. IMO

Lucas15 wrote:Perhaps the brothers and Ben could get along at some point, but I also think Ben was pretty blindsided by this HTD. First, he's been trying to coax JoJo into being able to open up after being hurt by an ex BF and finds out that the ex BF now wants her back, and that situation and phone call leave JoJo in tears and emotional. And to make matters worse, apparently Ben has a past history of an ex coming back into the picture that didn't turn out well for Ben.

Then, he meets the rest of her family and her brothers turn on him. Now skeptical is fine and protective is fine but attacking Ben on his honesty and integrity is not fine - that could have been handled with much greater respect than they showed to Ben, IMO.

Either one of these events, in real life (and IMO much of this is real to Ben) could be enough to force a reassessment of any consideration Ben could have had before that date of picking JoJo. Any alternative choice would seem to be a lower risk IMO than choosing JoJo even if she had been a front runner going in. But I don't think she was a front runner going in - maybe an alternate in case his front runner turned out to be unpick able at the end. After that date, my advice to Ben would be "Run Ben - run fast and far".

JMHO

I totally agree with the post but especially the bold. They had no idea who Ben really is and to speak / yell like that was IMO what I call crazy behaviour. For me, the fakest ever, because this whole family knows all about Reality Tv. It was a very poorly delivered act in percieving to protecting their sister, however I tend to see it more as an acting performance. They may be nice guys, but the fact remains they were OTT for the camera's and not IMO for their sister.

GuardianAngel wrote:

Lucas15 wrote:Perhaps the brothers and Ben could get along at some point, but I also think Ben was pretty blindsided by this HTD. First, he's been trying to coax JoJo into being able to open up after being hurt by an ex BF and finds out that the ex BF now wants her back, and that situation and phone call leave JoJo in tears and emotional. And to make matters worse, apparently Ben has a past history of an ex coming back into the picture that didn't turn out well for Ben.

Then, he meets the rest of her family and her brothers turn on him. Now skeptical is fine and protective is fine but attacking Ben on his honesty and integrity is not fine - that could have been handled with much greater respect than they showed to Ben, IMO.

Either one of these events, in real life (and IMO much of this is real to Ben) could be enough to force a reassessment of any consideration Ben could have had before that date of picking JoJo. Any alternative choice would seem to be a lower risk IMO than choosing JoJo even if she had been a front runner going in. But I don't think she was a front runner going in - maybe an alternate in case his front runner turned out to be unpick able at the end. After that date, my advice to Ben would be "Run Ben - run fast and far".

JMHO

I totally agree with the post but especially the bold. They had no idea who Ben really is and to speak / yell like that was IMO what I call crazy behaviour. For me, the fakest ever, because this whole family knows all about Reality Tv. It was a very poorly delivered act in percieving to protecting their sister, however I tend to see it more as an acting performance. They may be nice guys, but the fact remains they were OTT for the camera's and not IMO for their sister.

I really agree with this GA. Watch when Ben is leaving. You see the aggressive brother in the back as mom stalks Jojo from the window. He has a big smile on his face as he looks towards them too and walks away.

Sooooo, is the other brother on Twitter or not? That's all I wanted to know.