The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

Fingersandtoes wrote:

julychild wrote:

Fingersandtoes wrote:IMO it's pretty equal infatuation between Ben and Lauren. I'm not going to say love, because IMO bachelor bubble love isn't real love. But Lauren has shown many times how much she likes Ben, it's not one sided. She's over her 2nd episode cool as a cucumber approach. Ben IS making a lot of effort to show her how much he likes her, but she's showing it from her side too. 

It'll be interesting to see how it all pans out, all 3 (Ben, Lauren and JoJo) seem like great, mature and level headed people. 

JMHO, I think Ben is a bit too 'vanilla' for JoJo, she needs a bit more spice in her man.

I think reading between the lines of what Ben's friends have said about him, he isn't as vanilla as he appears to be. Also, it's been said that he prefers his girls with a little bit of spice. Chris (dentist) said sweet girls, like Becca, aren't his type.

Anything I've seen of him, every interview, every blog reads vanilla. I don't think being vanilla is a bad thing, but he IMO definitely is vanilla.

"I have had moments in my life where I was intensely attracted to a woman only to find out that was all that we had together. And as a man looking for a wife and a lifelong partner, I know passion and physical attraction is not the foundation for a marriage. So this was a big day," Higgins said.
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eversotrue wrote:

nothatgirl wrote:I feel like they've shown a lot to show that Ben really likes Lauren B, but nothing to really make me feel invested in them as a couple. I haven't seen them really connect on a deeper level. It just seems purely like infatuation to me. Although Jojo isn't my favorite and I don't think that she/Ben would work IRL, they do actually seem to have a friendship, real conversations, and a playful chemistry. It seems like a more well-rounded relationship even in the little we've seen.

I still think it will be Lauren, I just can see why he was also falling for Jojo. It seems similar to Melissa v. Molly to me in a way, where I think Jason was also infatuated with Melissa but he actually connected more with Molly. JMO.  

Agreed!

I wish I didn't feel this way..cause I really do like the idea of Ben and Lauren and DO believe in their connection...but it still feels like night 1 whenever they're together. Maybe they have had more important moments and a more balanced relationship that we just haven't seen it yet..? Idk. I feel like Ben is too obssessed with her honestly. That's not healthy.

Ben said he was worried (on the show/in the blog) that all he and JoJo had was passion and lust, but honestly...they do have a good rapport. I see a more "normal" relationship with them than with L and B. So, it's actually the opposite IMO. I actually think that she's really good at making him feel good about himself, reassuring him, giving him that confidence and he even said that last episode. We've seen her do that for him a few times already..but not as much with Lauren.

Honestly, I think Ben needs a person that has JoJo's demeanor/personality but has Lauren's lifestyle/way of life.

So basically, a combination of the two. Basically neither of these girls are gonna do it for him (jk)

I like all 3 of them. Together and separately. And I like both relationships. These are just my opinions based off what I've seen/believe. In either case, I think Ben has a comfortable relationship with both girls, which is the most important thing.

Fingersandtoes wrote:

julychild wrote:

Fingersandtoes wrote:IMO it's pretty equal infatuation between Ben and Lauren. I'm not going to say love, because IMO bachelor bubble love isn't real love. But Lauren has shown many times how much she likes Ben, it's not one sided. She's over her 2nd episode cool as a cucumber approach. Ben IS making a lot of effort to show her how much he likes her, but she's showing it from her side too. 

It'll be interesting to see how it all pans out, all 3 (Ben, Lauren and JoJo) seem like great, mature and level headed people. 

JMHO, I think Ben is a bit too 'vanilla' for JoJo, she needs a bit more spice in her man.

I think reading between the lines of what Ben's friends have said about him, he isn't as vanilla as he appears to be. Also, it's been said that he prefers his girls with a little bit of spice. Chris (dentist) said sweet girls, like Becca, aren't his type.

Anything I've seen of him, every interview, every blog reads vanilla. I don't think being vanilla is a bad thing, but he IMO definitely is vanilla.

Bubblebunny wrote:

eversotrue wrote:

nothatgirl wrote:I feel like they've shown a lot to show that Ben really likes Lauren B, but nothing to really make me feel invested in them as a couple. I haven't seen them really connect on a deeper level. It just seems purely like infatuation to me. Although Jojo isn't my favorite and I don't think that she/Ben would work IRL, they do actually seem to have a friendship, real conversations, and a playful chemistry. It seems like a more well-rounded relationship even in the little we've seen.

I still think it will be Lauren, I just can see why he was also falling for Jojo. It seems similar to Melissa v. Molly to me in a way, where I think Jason was also infatuated with Melissa but he actually connected more with Molly. JMO.  

Agreed!

I wish I didn't feel this way..cause I really do like the idea of Ben and Lauren and DO believe in their connection...but it still feels like night 1 whenever they're together. Maybe they have had more important moments and a more balanced relationship that we just haven't seen it yet..? Idk. I feel like Ben is too obssessed with her honestly. That's not healthy.

Ben said he was worried (on the show/in the blog) that all he and JoJo had was passion and lust, but honestly...they do have a good rapport. I see a more "normal" relationship with them than with L and B. So, it's actually the opposite IMO. I actually think that she's really good at making him feel good about himself, reassuring him, giving him that confidence and he even said that last episode. We've seen her do that for him a few times already..but not as much with Lauren.

Honestly, I think Ben needs a person that has JoJo's demeanor/personality but has Lauren's lifestyle/way of life.

So basically, a combination of the two. Basically neither of these girls are gonna do it for him (jk)

I like all 3 of them. Together and separately. And I like both relationships. These are just my opinions based off what I've seen/believe. In either case, I think Ben has a comfortable relationship with both girls, which is the most important thing.

What do you think it is about Lauren B's lifestyle/way of life that's right for Ben? Just curious!

sophienette wrote:

Fingersandtoes wrote:

julychild wrote:

I think reading between the lines of what Ben's friends have said about him, he isn't as vanilla as he appears to be. Also, it's been said that he prefers his girls with a little bit of spice. Chris (dentist) said sweet girls, like Becca, aren't his type.

Anything I've seen of him, every interview, every blog reads vanilla. I don't think being vanilla is a bad thing, but he IMO definitely is vanilla.

Pretty sure vanilla guys dont take Sexual studies as a minor ;)

sophienette wrote:

Fingersandtoes wrote:

julychild wrote:

I think reading between the lines of what Ben's friends have said about him, he isn't as vanilla as he appears to be. Also, it's been said that he prefers his girls with a little bit of spice. Chris (dentist) said sweet girls, like Becca, aren't his type.

Anything I've seen of him, every interview, every blog reads vanilla. I don't think being vanilla is a bad thing, but he IMO definitely is vanilla.

Pretty sure vanilla guys dont take Sexual studies as a minor ;)

Kashathediva wrote:I think it is very difficult to know someone from what we are shown in media.
I like to think of the song The Stranger by Billy Joel.
Thinking we really know someone's political beliefs etc from the superficial things we are allowed to see, is a far reach imo.  In fact, that is the best way to fool someone--judging a book by it's cover.

tennischick80 wrote:We've only seen snippets of these women, we don't know them in real life intimately...Lauren B seems like she could be very supportive...It's very possible she makes him feel confident and safe. We haven't seen every conversation between them. Maybe that's one of the reasons he's so into her.