The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Episode 4 - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Olivia's dancing was absolutely horrendous to watch!! 
She really needs to leave and soon! 
It's not fun or funny to watch, imo. 

Too much Olivia. Her act would've been sort of awkward funny if she had the ability to laugh at herself and not take everything so seriously. She must be exhausting to be around. The way she was seeking validation from Ben was just embarrassing. 

Amber is a regular mean girl. She seems to build herself up by putting others down. IMO it's different to comment in the talking booth about what's happening and about the ladies than just ridicule someone in front of the other women when you still live with that person. Amber did provide a real moment for me though, when she took her shoes off after not getting a rose. That's so me. 

Which twin was it that did Olivia to Olivia and just interrupted her talk with Ben? 

Jojo looks so much like Isla Fisher. Were her and Olivia having a sort of face off during their little chat? Measuring each other up a bit? Jojo's date with Ben didn't get much airtime. 

Lauren B smartly and subtly addressed the fact that it's hard for her to trust their connection and the realness of it while he is dating all the other wonderful ladies. They all signed up for it, fully aware what the show is about, but it's still weird. Ben definitely is pursuing her, there's a clear switch in the roles IMO. I love that she openly talks how she feels about him and the whole process.

Julie Dolan ‏@JulieKDolan
"She's like this sex panther." I hope Olivia's not watching this episode with her mom and dad #awkward #TheBachelor

All this talk about Becca on her last season just accentuated that CS may have had a thing for her but Ben clearly did not IMO. Her getting "friend zoned" doesn't make it likely that she'd have a shot at being the Bachelorette. So far Caila seems to be getting the most well-rounded edit for a potential lead.

Was Ben drunk during the cocktail party?

Julie Dolan ‏@JulieKDolan
She's still my favorite!! ❤️ Go Lauren B #TheBachelor

and mine too!

Fingersandtoes wrote:Too much Olivia.

Yes, way too much! It's been Olivia show all night long...
I liked only Ben and Lauren from it...

I am kind of surprised by how little of JoJo's date they showed, especially for a F2. She was definitely overshadowed by the rest of the episode, especially since she was shown first.

Kristen Baldwin ‏@KristenGBaldwin
Is Olivia going to perform an ice dancing routine later tonight? #TheBachelor

All threads are now open.

Kristen Baldwin ‏@KristenGBaldwin
Fun with #Bachelor frame grabs.

Caila seems like such a try hard