The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - NO SPOILERS - Discussion

Katiebelle wrote:

Katiebelle wrote:

sophienette wrote:I dont think he kissed Becca or Lauren B? I think he did kiss 6 girls this episode... Caila, JoJo, Amanda, Jubilee, Olivia and Jennifer (I think!)

Yes you are right. I went back and had a look. Maybe it was just wishful thinking on my part as I like her. I thought he gave Becca a quick kiss on the basketball court. I'll go back and look.

Yes he didn't kiss Becca either. I like her too. I hope she goes far

If you watched the live after show, they showed Ben kissing Becca's forehead at the end of their time on the basketball court.

Mmmm.... A kiss on the forehead. Maybe he's not that into her after all since all the other girls got a lip lock. Shame as I thought there was nice banter between them. To me it's always one of the tells that they would be good together. I saw it with Art and Matty, Sam and Sash and Sam and Heather (although the idiot let her go).

Katie, I think the NZ and Aussie versions have an ease that the US version has lost if it ever had. The engagement was not always a given and the dates less over the top stupid in earlier seasons. This format is unfortunately working and getting better ratings, so we are stuck with over the top and engagement to date.

I really like your insight, I had a blast with you on Bach NZ. BTW, my favorite Kiwi here got married to his Brazilian older woman and it was incredibly sweet. Are all Kiwis gorgeous?

I'm in awe of the Aussie and Kiwi's fashion, I love it all.

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stuckinsc wrote: Are all Kiwis gorgeous?

Yes we are. It's all the fresh unpolluted air and pure clean water. It's great for the complexion!

The seasons I have enjoyed the most have been the Aussie and kiwi seasons. I have only watched Kaitlin's live and some of Andis and Juan Pablos on YouTube but couldn't stomach them for long.

The US show seems less about finding love and more about providing crazy antics and drama. I just want a simple sweet  romance!

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stuckinsc wrote: Are all Kiwis gorgeous?

Yes we are. It's all the fresh unpollated air and pure clean water. It's great for the complexion!

The seasons I have enjoyed the most have been the Aussie and kiwi seasons. I have only watched Kaitlin's live and some of Andis and Juan Pablos on YouTube but couldn't stomach them for long.

The US show seems less about finding love and more about providing crazy antics and drama. I just want a simple sweet  romance!

There have been a couple of those on the US version...Ashley's season and Sean's season both had a fairly straight up romance. A bit of drama of course, but for the most part, fairly romantic. While successful, Des had a bit more drama to get to her happily ever after. Byron and Charlie as well.

Katiebelle wrote:

Katiebelle wrote:

sophienette wrote:I dont think he kissed Becca or Lauren B? I think he did kiss 6 girls this episode... Caila, JoJo, Amanda, Jubilee, Olivia and Jennifer (I think!)

Yes you are right. I went back and had a look. Maybe it was just wishful thinking on my part as I like her. I thought he gave Becca a quick kiss on the basketball court. I'll go back and look.

Yes he didn't kiss Becca either. I like her too. I hope she goes far

@Katiebelle I like Becca too.
So far he hasn't kissed Lauren B or Becca.
He did kiss Becca on the forehead (I missed it) as other said but he did this with JoJo (Joelle) as well - he kissed her on the forehead too.

@AllAboutLove

We always like the same contestants!

So far my favourites are JoJo, Becca, Caila and Lauren B in that order. I also loved Sam but he just let her go. I would have had her in at no 3.

Who are everyone else's favs at this stage?

Katiebelle wrote:@AllAboutLove

We always like the same contestants!

So far my favourites are JoJo, Becca, Caila and Lauren B in that order. I also loved Sam but he just let her go. I would have had her in at no 3.

Who are everyone else's favs at this stage?

Lauren B, JoJo, and Caila.

I agree that the high school date would have been better if they would have had quizzes. Why not use that time to find out about intelligence. Or find out how observant these girls are and how much they know about Ben.
The Love Lab segment was hilarious. I actually was hoping one of the girls would be nervous enough to fart. Isn't that horrible of me?!
My fav girls are
Caila,
Loved Sam. Her elimination was a bad decision, the evening time on the group date was cute.
I like Lauren B.. but she's a girl who wants to be in LA or Southern CA so unfortunately I don't see that working long term.
Jojo has a really good vibe about her. Ben taking her for that special time on top of the building was really sweet.
I'm rooting for things to get better for Jubilee, but this franchise does not seem to really promote equal opportunity.
Leah seems to be a playful more easygoing person.

Amanda having children that young is concerning. Sure there's an advantage of bringing in a step parent at that young of an age.... but... Leaving them for a show with a low percentile of success? WHY?! @katiebelle Her voice irritates me as well. Then turning on the tears over not getting the rose seemed sooo incredibly fake.

I saw a preview somewhere of next episode that concerns me regarding the meanness of Olivia. At the cocktail party before this last episodes RC, she was possessive and then in her interview she says it was all his idea and not her fault.. Good on Lace for calling her out.

In Lace's time she revealed stuff about being insecure, cried afterward. I continue to feel that she really needs to go work on her issues.

I went back and watched the episode on Amazon. I think there was footage that may not have been aired on the tv network. Not sure, and I'm not going to obsess.

I was glad to see Mandi gone. Though between her and Lace, I'd have rather Lace be the one going. I think of those two, Mandi has her act more together. Of course that would not be appealing to those who want more drama then actual realistic dating.

Where can I watch the NZ and Aussie versions? I have seen one of the seasons of the UK Bach and thought it was more interesting.
Depending on who the new b-ette is, I may just stop following this franchise. It has become TOO unrealistic. The only season I watched religiously and really rooted for the couples were Ashley / JP, Sean / Catherine, Des / Chris. The rest I've watched part way, hit and miss, then found the spoilers of who they chose and said " Another dud couple" and changed channels that night it's on.

Hopefully Ben is someone who will make good choices and succeed.

In watching the preview for next week, I just listened to the voices. Olivia's voice says " I can tell she's in a lot of pain, I'm just going to take advantage of it." HHMMM Nice girl?

Hi @theKeptGrits

I'm not sure where you can watch the NZ and Aussie versions. But find out as they are quite different to the US version. Better, IMO, but I am biased. @AllAboutLove is a font of knowledge - she might be able to help you.

I agree - Lace is a nut job and I'm pretty sure TPTB would have known that before the show.

I haven't watched those other seasons you mentioned - only starting watching a year ago with the 1st NZ season and was hooked. I really enjoyed both Aussie seasons but wasn't impressed with Kaitlin and her season. I'm a big fan of Nick and didn't like the way she treated him.

I just hope with Ben's season that he doesn't propose. I'd really like him to say lets get to know each other better and see how it goes. No pressure - they are so young and have plenty of time to settle down.

So far my fav is Jojo but I haven't got to see that much of the girls personalities yet. Lace has got to go next week so all the drama can stop but it looks as though Jubilee is going to cause a bit of her own.

I can never understand why these women create drama. Men HATE drama. It's a major turnoff. Well that's my experience growing up with brothers, dating and having male friends. They don't like, don't know how to deal with it and will avoid it at all costs.

Has any of the Bachelors ever picked a dramatic contestant?

Is it one or two that go next week? There seems to be so many girls. They do not have this many contestants in the Aus and NZ franchises.