The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Scaps - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Well Ben did say if he proposes it's going to be real . I read somewhere here? That you just have to be confident about your choice . Now we can understand why he's a total basket case at the FRC. He had to unravel the mess he got into to that yes he meant his ily but he loves someone more. I actually am feeling sorry for the F2.

Tiggerlgh wrote:I think he said ILY to Lauren twice and the JoJo in the new scene.  Both appear very sweet then he realizes he has feelings for both, Calia comes and visits he knows she is leaving anyway so he sends her home prior to the RC.  Tbd on F1. I think Lauren as of now but will make finale call after seeing Monday's episode.

It's a real long shot at this point that JoJo is F1, but what if Lauren was the fave going into FD (hence the bigger/better FS), but what if Ben has some kind of epiphany and a change of heart? It's not impossible. To me, it wouldn't be such a stretch because I have seen some great things brewing with these two. But to the BenLo folks, it would be very shocking I realize, because we have been hit on the head ad nauseum with BenLo and then the spoiler really solidifies the way the edit is going.

Why would this season be one of MF's favorites? I'm just having such a hard time letting go of this one because if it is such a straight-shot love story (with a little doubt thrown in the 11th hour) what would make this one so special to the mastermind puppeteer MF? I have a hard time believing he is so enamored by Lauren & Ben together that he ranks it up there with the Sutters & the Mesnick switcheroo?

Litta123 wrote:


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Looking at this particular cap, it looks like the thing on the right is clearly a ceramic type lamp with the light shining through it. And it appears to be perhaps a floor lamp. Or a table lamp on a sofa table behind the couch. And on the left, it almost looks like a ceramic/pottery bowl on top a dresser or table. All is JMO, of course.

Thanks litta, for the picture.

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GuardianAngel wrote:This pic from  the No Discussion thread, thanks Litta, of Ben and JoJo on the baseball field. He has his arms around her, her left arm is dangling in between her legs. Why is it not around his back or  neck or whatever. I see no affection from JoJo. To me, all season, I've been trying to warm up to her, but she appears IMO to be just there, just for the ride. I could very well see her checking out at F2. IMO Something happens at F1/F2. Thanks sophie for the text! Very helpful!



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As that scene fades out, you see her move her hand up to him and him sliding his arm further down her back. Really... you see no affection? I feel like she's the most affectionate with him. She's always touching his leg, rubbing his back, grabbing at his neck, sliding her hands through his hair.

What do you think happens?

I agree and lest we forget the grab of his rear on homeplate. No says affection like a little grab butt!

Could this lamp possibly match?



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nutty1 wrote:Could this lamp possibly match?



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I was thinking maybe the drape on the right of the Ben cap could be the same drape as above^ but with the wooden slatting underneath casting shadows underneath. In certain lighting , perhaps the shadows could be slanted.

So who's room is this? Jojo, Caila or Lauren

Lauren's FD

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nutty1 wrote:Could this lamp possibly match?



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I was thinking maybe the drape on the right of the Ben cap could be the same drape as above^ but with the wooden slatting underneath casting shadows underneath. In certain lighting , perhaps the shadows could be slanted.

I believe this is an old decor for this villa as posted before...

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Litta123 wrote:


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Looking at this particular cap, it looks like the thing on the right is clearly a ceramic type lamp with the light shining through it. And it appears to be perhaps a floor lamp. Or a table lamp on a sofa table behind the couch. And on the left, it almost looks like a ceramic/pottery bowl on top a dresser or table. All is JMO, of course.

Thanks litta, for the picture.

Oh you can see in that lightened cap that it's definitely one of those candle jars that were on the night tables in JoJo's FS bedroom, as pointed out by @mtnlvr55 in the episode 9 thread. You can even see the handle starting at the top of that cap. I mean it turns a bit left at the very top.

Unfortunately I don't think that helps us any, since I'm pretty sure it's the stuff the show carries around themselves, not a permanent feature of the rooms. They love their lanterns on this show.

Litta123 wrote:I don't have time to figure out what this could mean, but I found it interesting that the sofa doesn't appear to be the same.

From the FD preview.


Then the I love you from the latest preview from eonline.

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Two things I noticed. I could be mistaken but this doesn't seem to be the same as the first two ILYs that we saw. Maybe it's to Jojo? The other thing is that it appears that there's possibly a throw or cushion behind Ben in the 2nd pic. You can see the edges on both sides and what appears to be the sofa behind it.

Have we seen screencaps of JoJo's LCD?