Bachelor Australia - Season 4 - Richie Strahan - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

in_denial wrote:I find it interesting that Olena has been papped buying cigarettes and running in full makeup etc. These are the two things that Richie spoke of as being dealbreakers!

So I will play devil's advocate here, has anyone actually seen her puffing cigarettes? If so how do we know she wasn't buying the cigarettes for someone.

Also the first pap pic I saw of her was her dressed up in some over-sized track pants and a hoodie. Maybe she knew she would be papped again and then made sure she had her full make up on.

I don't care for either smoking but until I actually see a pic of her doing so, I really don't know if she does or not....all jmo.

mercieme wrote:

in_denial wrote:I find it interesting that Olena has been papped buying cigarettes and running in full makeup etc. These are the two things that Richie spoke of as being dealbreakers!

So I will play devil's advocate here, has anyone actually seen her puffing cigarettes? If so how do we know she wasn't buying the cigarettes for someone.

Also the first pap pic I saw of her was her dressed up in some over-sized track pants and a hoodie. Maybe she knew she would be papped again and then made sure she had her full make up on.

I don't care for either smoking but until I actually see a pic of her doing so, I really don't know if she does or not....all jmo.

No, I haven't actually seen her smoking...but I am not sure why she would be buying it for someone else? That wasn't the point of the post though - just that she is papped doing the things that Richie says are deal breakers. So the question is...are they really deal breakers?

in_denial wrote:

mercieme wrote:

in_denial wrote:I find it interesting that Olena has been papped buying cigarettes and running in full makeup etc. These are the two things that Richie spoke of as being dealbreakers!

So I will play devil's advocate here, has anyone actually seen her puffing cigarettes? If so how do we know she wasn't buying the cigarettes for someone.

Also the first pap pic I saw of her was her dressed up in some over-sized track pants and a hoodie. Maybe she knew she would be papped again and then made sure she had her full make up on.

I don't care for either smoking but until I actually see a pic of her doing so, I really don't know if she does or not....all jmo.

No, I haven't actually seen her smoking...but I am not sure why she would be buying it for someone else? That wasn't the point of the post though - just that she is papped doing the things that Richie says are deal breakers. So the question is...are they really deal breakers?

If the post was regarding deal breakers, then you might want to read what Richie said about smoking: he didn't say he was against it, he said himself and his partner would have to discuss potentially cutting it down...this was discussed in one of the SM threads that is now locked so unfortunately I can't go back to bring back that interview that Richie was quoted as saying that. Somehow folks interpreted his interview that he said smoking was a deal breaker but IMO he never said that.

Keira said in an interview that she was surprised how many girls actually smoked in the house?....so I wonder who else smokes besides Olena?....but I agree Richie did say smoking wasn't really a deal breaker they would just have to try and cut back on it...

mercieme wrote:

in_denial wrote:I find it interesting that Olena has been papped buying cigarettes and running in full makeup etc. These are the two things that Richie spoke of as being dealbreakers!

So I will play devil's advocate here, has anyone actually seen her puffing cigarettes? If so how do we know she wasn't buying the cigarettes for someone.

Also the first pap pic I saw of her was her dressed up in some over-sized track pants and a hoodie. Maybe she knew she would be papped again and then made sure she had her full make up on.

I don't care for either smoking but until I actually see a pic of her doing so, I really don't know if she does or not....all jmo.

Do they allow smoking on the show? If not, then Olena held out for several weeks so this might show she's not a heavy smoker. If she smoked while on the show then IMO Richie might have noticed. Interesting for him to use that as an example. Interesting for her to be papped with a pack.

Idlemess wrote:

mercieme wrote:

in_denial wrote:I find it interesting that Olena has been papped buying cigarettes and running in full makeup etc. These are the two things that Richie spoke of as being dealbreakers!

So I will play devil's advocate here, has anyone actually seen her puffing cigarettes? If so how do we know she wasn't buying the cigarettes for someone.

Also the first pap pic I saw of her was her dressed up in some over-sized track pants and a hoodie. Maybe she knew she would be papped again and then made sure she had her full make up on.

I don't care for either smoking but until I actually see a pic of her doing so, I really don't know if she does or not....all jmo.

Do they allow smoking on the show? If not, then Olena held out for several weeks so this might show she's not a heavy smoker.  If she smoked while on the show then IMO Richie might have noticed. Interesting for him to use that as an example. Interesting for her to be papped with a pack.  

I have no idea what is allowed or not allowed during filming and yes I would assume that there is no way Richie wouldn't know if a girl he spent a long time with was a habitual smoker. I believe the F4 were filming for over 2 months but AAL has the exact schedule in one of the No discussion thread links.

LeapofFaith wrote:Keira said in an interview that she was surprised how many girls actually smoked in the house?....so I wonder who else smokes besides Olena?....but I agree Richie did say smoking wasn't really a deal breaker they would just have to try and cut back on it...

You're correct LeapofFaith he actually said it wasn't a deal breaker they would just work on cutting back. Interesting considering he brought up the smoking.  I will find the article I think it was for pop sugar.

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mercieme wrote:

in_denial wrote:I find it interesting that Olena has been papped buying cigarettes and running in full makeup etc. These are the two things that Richie spoke of as being dealbreakers!

So I will play devil's advocate here, has anyone actually seen her puffing cigarettes? If so how do we know she wasn't buying the cigarettes for someone.

Also the first pap pic I saw of her was her dressed up in some over-sized track pants and a hoodie. Maybe she knew she would be papped again and then made sure she had her full make up on.

I don't care for either smoking but until I actually see a pic of her doing so, I really don't know if she does or not....all jmo.

I agree here. I'm not a smoker, never have been, don't like the smell of cigarettes (I prefer cigars if it's an option or joins, ahaha, well, they smell better) ... but if I met a "perfect guy", who loved me for me (and all the crazy I can be), I would accept his bad vice, only asked him to cut back or not do it in front of me.

On that note ... my father smoked for more than 45 years ... he started as a teenager and stopped in his 50s ... I found out when I was in my late teens or in my 20s, when he proudly told our friends that he quit 4 year prior. I was shocked. My mom knew that he smoked, but he never did it in our home, on our holidays (and I had my holidays with just my dad many times), with our friends (who had to go outside to smoke if they were visiting us) ... only at work. So thinks can reach a compromise.

As for the make-up ... I'm all for all-natural, but boy, the paps are relentless ... and the make-up doesn't make a person or corrupt ... and if a make-up artist does her own, I see no difference ... with me, when I rarely wear make-up, because I simply don't know how to apply it.

happygolucky wrote:

mercieme wrote:

in_denial wrote:I find it interesting that Olena has been papped buying cigarettes and running in full makeup etc. These are the two things that Richie spoke of as being dealbreakers!

So I will play devil's advocate here, has anyone actually seen her puffing cigarettes? If so how do we know she wasn't buying the cigarettes for someone.

Also the first pap pic I saw of her was her dressed up in some over-sized track pants and a hoodie. Maybe she knew she would be papped again and then made sure she had her full make up on.

I don't care for either smoking but until I actually see a pic of her doing so, I really don't know if she does or not....all jmo.

I agree here. I'm not a smoker, never have been, don't like the smell of cigarettes (I prefer cigars if it's an option or joins, ahaha, well, they smell better) ... but if I met a "perfect guy", who loved me for me (and all the crazy I can be), I would accept his bad vice, only asked him to cut back or not do it in front of me.

On that note ... my father smoked for more than 45 years ... he started as a teenager and stopped in his 50s ... I found out when I was in my late teens or in my 20s, when he proudly told our friends that he quit 4 year prior. I was shocked. My mom knew that he smoked, but he never did it in our home, on our holidays (and I had my holidays with just my dad many times), with our friends (who had to go outside to smoke if they were visiting us) ... only at work. So thinks can reach a compromise.

As for the make-up ... I'm all for all-natural, but boy, the paps are relentless ... and the make-up doesn't make a person or corrupt ... and if a make-up artist does her own, I see no difference ... with me, when I rarely wear make-up, because I simply don't know how to apply it.

I wear some form of make up when I go out even lightly applied in order to not look like I was just dragged from death. Yes the media do seem to be taking it to extremes, but she doesn't seem to care so thats the main thing I suppose.

The thing I'm looking at is that it's all out in the open. There's no secret getaways or dodging cameras. Looks like she's welcoming it as if to send a message. A very LOUD message. To who or why? That's the mystery. Aha, that word again

What do we have now 36 hours to go? Can I ask a favor of our Aussie watchers can you post as you are watching and be as detailed as you like, I won't mind! I still feel like screen caps show Olena & Alex final two. So if Alex is final one all might be fine if it is Olena though.... When do they do interviews as a couple or do the even do that? How will we know how they are doing post show?

casjacknick wrote:What do we have now 36 hours to go? Can I ask a favor of our Aussie watchers can you post as you are watching and be as detailed as you like, I won't mind! I still feel like screen caps show Olena & Alex final two. So if Alex is final one all might be fine if it is Olena though.... When do they do interviews as a couple or do the even do that? How will we know how they are doing post show?

I will be posting live. I believe HYBPA stated last night Bachie plus one next week but they would either way.

We need to keep an eye on Richie, Alex and Nikkis movements in the next
24 hours