Joelle Fletcher - (JoJo) - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Idlemess wrote:Correct me if I am wrong.  Are the 1 on 1 dates full dates meaning you get to spend the whole day with each other? If this is the case, how is it that there is never time to talk. We only get to see a few minutes of their time together so what are they doing

I think she was probably looking at it realistically that one date isn't really enough time to get to know someone, which is why she seemed surprised Olivia told Ben she was falling for him when she hasn't even had a 1-on-1 with him yet.

I think it is more having feelings about not wanting to hurt people and the gravity of what it means to lead someone on - that's what I think hits the leads the most by the end. Especially ones who DO fall in love with only one person.

It must feel horrible for sincere leads by the end of it and when the time comes to no longer lead the person on (so basically give them hope) and then that timeline of giving hope is over and it is time to hurt/disappoint them. That's what I think will weigh on Ben much more than any real feelings he has personally for his F2. So more about her as a person and hurting her than about being confused.

JMO

That whole scene with her and Olivia was hilarious. I noticed a lot of it was edited, but you can tell that it was also very real.

^ Yeah, everyone views it differently, but I have always thought that the lead has a genuine relationship with the F2 person and can be a bit confused. Some good examples IMO are Chris/Becca, Kaitlyn/Nick, Andi/Nick, Des/technically Chris, Jason/Molly, etc. It's not unheard of on this show IMO. It doesn't take away from the fact that the lead obviously picked someone else for some reason or another.

Eh I think we can all pretty much assume how it's gonna go; he'll say he's in love with both but  "I can only picture my life with __" or "when I picture my future I only see __". OR() he'll say he's in love with both and then say "but I know what I have to do".

I hate this show

eversotrue wrote:
She told Olivia "our relationship has been so passionate, we haven't really had the chance to talk" in regards to comparing relationships with the other girls. She said it in the itm right after. Then she said, "his relationships with other girls might be stronger" and it cut right to Caila and Ben eating each other's faces. I think that whole sequence was an "insecurity" thing.

Inferred from JoJo's words in the bolded is her concern that they are mostly connecting on a physical level unlike other girls with emotional and/or intellectual connections. She feels that way even AFTER spending an entire day with him. She could be insecure or she could just not be into Ben in the way that the other girls are--both are possibilities. We'll see what happens!

veg_out wrote:

eversotrue wrote:
She told Olivia "our relationship has been so passionate, we haven't really had the chance to talk" in regards to comparing relationships with the other girls. She said it in the itm right after. Then she said, "his relationships with other girls might be stronger" and it cut right to Caila and Ben eating each other's faces. I think that whole sequence was an "insecurity" thing.

Inferred from JoJo's words in the bolded is her concern that they are mostly connecting on a physical level unlike other girls with emotional and/or intellectual connections. She feels that way even AFTER spending an entire day with him. She could be insecure or she could just not be into Ben in the way that the other girls are--both are possibilities. We'll see what happens!

I don't think that's what she meant or that's what it was supposed to imply...but ok.

Al wrote:Eh I think we can all pretty much assume how it's gonna go; he'll say he's in love with both but  "I can only picture my life with __" or "when I picture my future I only see __". OR() he'll say he's in love with both and then say "but I know what I have to do".

I hate this show

Pretty much!

eversotrue wrote:That whole scene with her and Olivia was hilarious. I noticed a lot of it was edited, but you can tell that it was also very real.

I'm watching it again and it really is funny. Jojo is like HBIC. She has this tough exterior and I wouldn't want to be on her bad side. Olivia looked pretty tame next to her.

megaa wrote:

eversotrue wrote:That whole scene with her and Olivia was hilarious. I noticed a lot of it was edited, but you can tell that it was also very real.

I'm watching it again and it really is funny. Jojo is like HBIC. She has this tough exterior and I wouldn't want to be on her bad side. Olivia looked pretty tame next to her.

They were battling it out. The looks that they were giving each other?

megaa wrote:I was definitely expecting to see more of their date given Jojo's F2 status.

I have to say that their kisses look pretty on TV. I don't know if maybe their lips are compatible or what but they just look easy/steamy & not awkward. Jojo tells Olivia that her relationship with Ben has been passionate from the start yet they haven't had much chance to talk.. supports the chemistry/ultimately lacking compatibility sl.

I agree with the kisses talk. I was actually thinking the same thing since they first kissed in episode 2. Out of all of the girls and Ben, JoJo and Ben's kisses together look the most natural. They look smooth and soft and steamy and I don't know...they just look good. I noticed JoJo has a very nice way of kissing actually. She uses her hands a lot: to craddle the back of his head, pulls his collar, etc. I'm sure he LOVED that.

bluwavz wrote:I never believe it when the male leads say they're falling in love with multiple women! I think the guys tend to know what they want and the rest of the women on their "journey" are just for fun along the way. The female leads are so much more believable to me when they make that claim.

JMO.

Not sure I agree... pretty sure Ashley said it and we know she was firmly in love with JP way before F2!