Bachelor New Zealand - Jordan Mauger - Season 2 - Discussion - *Sleuthing* - *Spoilers*

Naz was mean, no doubt. We got to see her nasty side...but her edit changed, we got to see her vulnerability (which I don't think is an act).

Until F3 episode, I was sure it was Fleur. After that episode, I think it's Naz. If it's Fleur , they left their romantic moments on the editing floor, that's nasty.

Maybe Jordan says we'll be surprised with who he picks, because he doesn't pick either of them ;-)

^^ Why do I think that would be best for all  or should I say good luck and   out

I believe that the main difference IMO is the favorite we prefer.

I am pro-Naz, so indeed it does not bother me one bit that she nananere all the nay-sayer on social medias.

I saw many many nasty tweets and even comments on her own facebook page (never understood the point to comment nasty on someone you do not like just to mark a point and be nasty... a facebook page is a fan page, if a person does not like this person she should go to the one she likes most and remain positive... but again I see many nasty people there that are pissing on her happy rain bubble)

So yes, I think IMO it is easy to excuse our favorite for whatever they do such sharing their joy but also be very quick to condemn the "other one".

HEA wrote:I believe that the main difference IMO is the favorite we prefer.

I don't have a favorite and am not pro any of the F2 or the lead and really don't care who is F1 or if there's no F1.

Jmho

just as a reminder that she did not feel as if... it was insulting IMO. it was also all over the social media too.

This conversation with Jordan was very important on many levels and what Jordan told her makes me believe that he was very aware of what was going on in the mansion, crew or bachelorette.

For me a mistake does not define a person. None of the girls were familiar with being filmed and how they would be edited later. How many nasty jealous conversation from other girls were conviently erased from the edits because of the scenario. we,ll never know.

All I know is that this was a full producers set up to put the 3 girls (and again erin was next to kate and gabs... so goodbye the sweet lovely nice erin persona IMO) and ceri and Naz. Ceri who was seen very close friend with naz until her departure BTW (just checking the cocktail parties and they are always next to each other or not far away).

The way Gabs is snobing Naz as if she is just trash is totally unaceptable and very mean. The voice over looks like Kate but who knows.

No way this was a joke. And as said, Gabs shown a very mean side of herself and hope she learned something out of it too.

AllAboutLove wrote:

HEA wrote:I believe that the main difference IMO is the favorite we prefer.

I don't have a favorite and am not pro any of the F2 or the lead and really don't care who is F1 or if there's no F1.

Jmho

I read many many times that you prefered Fleur and thought strongly that she was F1. Am I right?

But thank you for sharing this today.

So another 2 days and we'll all know.

Talking for me, I cannot wait to know and move on to the next show.

I am not inspired one single atome with Richie's season whatsoever, so maybe the canadian bachelorette and of course jojo is coming up!

HEA wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:

HEA wrote:I believe that the main difference IMO is the favorite we prefer.

I don't have a favorite and am not pro any of the F2 or the lead and really don't care who is F1 or if there's no F1.

Jmho

I beg to differ. I read many many times that you prefered Fleur and thought strongly that she was F1. Am I right?

But thank you for sharing this today.

I'm sleuthing. That's all. Although I don't care for Naz that doesn't mean she's not a viable F1. IIRC I was the first to post that Naz may be F1 during live posting of an episode and posted it may explain the edit (here and here). I can see either one as F1 based on sleuthing and more so Naz if going by media/SM, but even so, none of the F2 are my favorites. Not even close. I literally do not care who is F1 — just sleuthing to sleuth and because I love this forum and that's what's made it fun for me. The season itself is just a MOT season to me.

^^ Just wanted to make sure I read it right or not.
Thank you so much for your clarification though
We are ALL sleuthing one way or another IMO.

edited because my "of course it is" is not refering to anything anymore after you edited your message

I too never care who the F1 one is. My opinions of Naz are based on what I've seen and read here, just like any other contestant of any other series I watch. For those who sleuth and don't care, sometimes they are looked at as if they have a favourite rather than understanding it's the discovery of the sleuthing process that results in their opinions.

Those that have favourites, nothing wrong with that, at times, IMO, feel they are being dissed just because some don't agree with them.

That's not the case at all, and IMO it's those that need to take a step back and take the emotions out of the equation. This is what I have seen for the many years of sleuthing, because I too was one of those that used to fan girl. There are some leads contestants that I like or dislike, and I'll post my opinion as to why I like them or I don't, regardless of who likes them.

I enjoy observing the happy couple to determine if it will be a long term relationship or end quickly. That's all part of sleuthing. The end result for me, is best wishes for a happy couple, end of story.

GuardianAngel wrote:I too never care who the F1 one is. My opinions of Naz are based on what I've seen and read here, just like any other contestant of any other series I watch. For those who sleuth and don't care, sometimes they are looked at as if they have a favourite rather than understanding it's the discovery of the sleuthing process that results in their opinions.

Those that have favourites, nothing wrong with that, at times, IMO, feel they are being dissed just because some don't agree with them.

That's not the case at all, and IMO it's those that need to take a step back and take the emotions out of the equation. This is what I have seen for the many years of sleuthing, because I too was one of those that used to fan girl. There are some leads contestants that I like or dislike, and I'll post my opinion as to why I like them or I don't, regardless of who likes them.

I enjoy observing the happy couple to determine if it will be a long term relationship or end quickly. That's all part of sleuthing. The end result for me, is best wishes for a happy couple, end of story.

Those watching -- any recommendations for episodes/dates worth watching I found watching the whole shows of the first 2 epis really boring and would appreciate you pointing to the good stuff and thanks!