The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Potential Contestants - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #2

chasingpavements wrote:

megaa wrote:

BlackHalo wrote:I think Lauren H will be F1 as well. On paper she just seems the best fit for him and if they have chemistry then why not.

As much as I like Lauren H, I wonder if she might be a Whitney type winner. She's definitely really good on paper (Whitney was probably the best choice on paper for Chris), but the passion/chemistry wasn't there. We'll have to watch for that.

I'm kinda afraid Ben won't find his match. I see all the couples who have, and it's really sweet. I wanted that for him, but I'm feeling skeptical right now.

Apparently, whoever it is, he is smitten (according to RJ). I kind of believe that, because I do feel like he's the kind of guy who falls fast and hard. I also don't think he's as image-conscious as Chris, so I don't think he'd pick, let's say, Lauren just because she would look good as an F1. I think he'd really pick the girl he liked. I also feel like Lauren seems almost TOO perfect for him (works with kids, doesn't seem to have connections with fame or TV like he did, etc), so it'll be interesting if she really is the frontrunner.

I think the skepticism is alway going to be there. For only 5 couples to make it in 29 seasons...the odds are definitely against Ben, no matter how genuine he is.


(jmo)

Thanks. I'm out of the loop on RJ scoop. If Ben truly is smitten with someone, I will be happy for him, even if I don't end up liking the F1 It seems it can only be Becca RJ is talking about, right? Unless Becca told her family Ben's smitten with someone else...

Good point. I was just expecting him to have the best cast of women ever like out of some fairytale in an alternate universe.  I have to remember it's a reality show.

Beagle wrote:My gut feeling is that Lauren Bushnell is a frontrunner.

On a completely shallow note, she and Ben would look great together.

megaa wrote:

chasingpavements wrote:

megaa wrote:

As much as I like Lauren H, I wonder if she might be a Whitney type winner. She's definitely really good on paper (Whitney was probably the best choice on paper for Chris), but the passion/chemistry wasn't there. We'll have to watch for that.

I'm kinda afraid Ben won't find his match. I see all the couples who have, and it's really sweet. I wanted that for him, but I'm feeling skeptical right now.

Apparently, whoever it is, he is smitten (according to RJ). I kind of believe that, because I do feel like he's the kind of guy who falls fast and hard. I also don't think he's as image-conscious as Chris, so I don't think he'd pick, let's say, Lauren just because she would look good as an F1. I think he'd really pick the girl he liked. I also feel like Lauren seems almost TOO perfect for him (works with kids, doesn't seem to have connections with fame or TV like he did, etc), so it'll be interesting if she really is the frontrunner.

I think the skepticism is alway going to be there. For only 5 couples to make it in 29 seasons...the odds are definitely against Ben, no matter how genuine he is.


(jmo)

Thanks. I'm out of the loop on RJ scoop. If Ben truly is smitten with someone, I will be happy for him, even if I don't end up liking the F1 It seems it can only be Becca RJ is talking about, right? Unless Becca told her family Ben's smitten with someone else...

Good point. I was just expecting him to have the best cast of women ever like out of some fairytale in an alternate universe.  I have to remember it's a reality show.

RJ actually specifically said it's not Becca, although she's "left an impression on him". I think RJ has a friend that works on the show (maybe someone she met through Becca?). She doesn't actually know who that girl is, but her hunch is Lauren H or Olivia (leaning towards Lauren H).

(jmo)

AllAboutLove wrote:Even though the "engagement" at the end of this show is "lets date" more than marry, I think there would be so much less pressure if the show ended in a promise ring to date and be bf/gf.

It's why I really, really wish this show ended without a proposal and was a planned girlfriend/boyfriend ending like Bach New Zealand and Bach Aussie (most are with their chosen F1 and only one with their F3).

Another thing I wish is no sex and/or no overnights. Bach NZ and Bach Aussie don't have any sex involved and that also helps build a better foundation, IMO, and the ending FRC being only a bf/gf only helps solidify this. I guess I hope that there won't be any sex either on Ben H's season since there will be an "engagement" most likely.

I just really hope that Ben can get to that place where he falls for someone enough to want to be truly engaged. I really don't even care who the girl is as much as I hope it actually works out for him.

Oh, cool - I didn't know that the NZ and AU shows end with a non-engagement. I think that's one of the most unrealistic parts of the show, so I'm not surprised they have better odds than our show. I wonder if that would change anything about the lasting power in our series - I didn't watch the early seasons, but I know that guys like Bob gave a "promise ring" and Jesse gave a plane ticket and those relationship didn't even last for weeks. Knowing how much crap people gave Becca for her crazy idea that she wasn't ready to get engaged to a guy she went on 3 dates with, I don't see them ever changing that rule.

And, I love the "no sex" thing. Sean wrote a really good blog post about how he's talked to past winners/leads and the whole "had sex with multiple people a week before we got engaged" always ends up causing issues. And, how could it not? I really wish they would do away with that. I can see Ben just using that time to talk though and not get physical.

(jmo)

BlackHalo wrote:

megaa wrote:

BlackHalo wrote:I think Lauren H will be F1 as well. On paper she just seems the best fit for him and if they have chemistry then why not.

As much as I like Lauren H, I wonder if she might be a Whitney type winner. She's definitely really good on paper (Whitney was probably the best choice on paper for Chris), but the passion/chemistry wasn't there. We'll have to watch for that.

I'm kinda afraid Ben won't find his match. I see all the couples who have, and it's really sweet. I wanted that for him, but I'm feeling skeptical right now.

I could see this and I'm starting to become skeptical as well. I was excited about Joelle but now it seems she's just in line for next 'ette. I mostly think Olivia is there to further her career. She's a question mark for me. I do like that she is tall. I love to see him with a tall girl. Lauren H and Caila seem to be the best bets but does Caila even have a chance? The rest of the girls I don't see him with at all. I'm really hoping this season surprises me.

I'd like to be surprised as well. And although we haven't seen the women interact with Ben, I think it's fair of us to feel this way. It's not like we don't want a happy ending. Maybe the problem is we want it too much Damn romantic in me. I'll try to be more positive.

chasingpavements wrote:

megaa wrote:

Thanks. I'm out of the loop on RJ scoop. If Ben truly is smitten with someone, I will be happy for him, even if I don't end up liking the F1 It seems it can only be Becca RJ is talking about, right? Unless Becca told her family Ben's smitten with someone else...

Good point. I was just expecting him to have the best cast of women ever like out of some fairytale in an alternate universe.  I have to remember it's a reality show.

RJ actually specifically said it's not Becca, although she's "left an impression on him". I think RJ has a friend that works on the show (maybe someone she met through Becca?). She doesn't actually know who that girl is, but her hunch is Lauren H or Olivia (leaning towards Lauren H).

(jmo)

Thanks again. I'll take a smitten Ben. We'd all love to see that for sure.

I may regret asking this but who is RJ and why is that spoiler considered true?

Even if Ben is smitten that does not mean that person will be f1. Jmo

That spoiler is not being considered necessarily true. I guess it depends on your POV.

How does anyone know who the F1 is or isn't if it isn't even over yet?????

Here is who I would like to see in the Top 4 based on pre-season findings to date:
 • Lauren H as Ben's F1 because these two seem like the most likely coupling that could possibly make it work long term IMO and I like that she doesn't appear to be "tainted" with ideas of fame in her head and he isn't very fame oriented either. 
• Olivia as either Bachlorette or F2 because I really like her and think Ben might really like her too but I don't think they would work out long term because she seems to have high career ambitions and he would unintentionally hold her back IMO. 
• JoJo as either F2 or Bachlorette for no other reason (as of yet) than she seems interesting and that she'd be good tv IMO 
• And either Caila, Becca or Lauren B to round out the top 4. At this point I'm fairly neutral to who I want to see as F4 and believe all three would keep me equally entertained/interested. Until I "meet" the other two, Becca will have the slightest of edge for me.

AllAboutLove wrote:Even though the "engagement" at the end of this show is "lets date" more than marry, I think there would be so much less pressure if the show ended in a promise ring to date and be bf/gf.

It's why I really, really wish this show ended without a proposal and was a planned girlfriend/boyfriend ending like Bach New Zealand and Bach Aussie (most are with their chosen F1 and only one with their F3).

Another thing I wish is no sex and/or no overnights. Bach NZ and Bach Aussie don't have any sex involved and that also helps build a better foundation, IMO, and the ending FRC being only a bf/gf only helps solidify this. I guess I hope that there won't be any sex either on Ben H's season since there will be an "engagement" most likely.

I just really hope that Ben can get to that place where he falls for someone enough to want to be truly engaged. I really don't even care who the girl is as much as I hope it actually works out for him.

I love this!!  :Nod:  I wish they would produce that same concept here in North America. IMO that would be by far the most realistic and a true match-making dating show with real potential for something genuine and lasting!! .  Are you listening Mr. Fleiss?? This is what we want to see here!! Give these young people a real chance at finding a love that has the potential to last!! Thank you for your consideration in advance. 

GuardianAngel wrote:How does anyone know who the F1 is or isn't if it isn't even over yet?????

Lol - seems like any source is considered absolute.

I myself would hate to speculate who is going to make f4 or even "win" this whole thing.
On paper I agree that lauren h is "perfect". But Ben may come out of his season a step daddy . Not impossible. Seasons are down to the wire and despite proof we still have folks here convinced that their contestant should be f1 because the rest are not good enough.

nd4reality wrote:I may regret asking this but who is RJ and why is that spoiler considered true?

Even if Ben is smitten that does not mean that person will be f1. Jmo

She has a small blog and used to post here - I don't think her spoiler is considered to be true, but it's just being considered and discusssed. I think she has good information as she was the first to tell us that Becca was going on the show and would be promoting CALIA. She also revealed Joelle was on the show before RS did or before it was sleuthed here. That doesn't mean she knows everything (she even admits this) or that anyone should definitely believe her. I don't think anyone is saying "so and so will definitely be F1", it's just speculation. We do that every season! Sometimes we're wrong, sometimes we're right, but there's no harm in guessing.

(jmo)