Becca Tilly - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Returnees get special treatment. Not only are they getting a second chance for themselves but they r a valuable tools to the producers to keep drama stirring in the ranks. Plus they comes with a pre-built fan base or have viewers that don't like them. Generates cooler talk either way.

chasingpavements wrote:It's weird to me that it's allowed even for returnees, b/c according to Jillian, she wasn't even allowed to talk to family and friends as the lead. She said they do that on purpose so you feel isolated and are always willing to talk to producers (b/c you have no other outlet). you would think they would do that for everyone, even returnees.

I wonder if that's just something they gave her to make the girls even more jealous? Or, if it was just b/c they really, really wanted her to return? Did Nick get to do the same?

(Jmo)

I'm assuming these are meant to be rare occurrences so as not to burst the Bach Bubble. Has "Becca" communicated through SM since the start of filming more than that one time this week on Twitter with the TSwift lyric?

I don't think the other girls would know about it so therefore wouldn't be jealous. They likely did it in an ITM interview I'm guessing. 

I ASSUMED Nick was handed his phone with supervision much the same way I described above every other day or so to keep people from guessing that he was on the show. All JMO.

nd4reality wrote:Returnees get special treatment. Not only are they getting a second chance for themselves but they r a valuable tools to the producers to keep drama stirring in the ranks. Plus they comes with a pre-built fan base or have viewers that don't like them. Generates cooler talk either way.

Good point..I don't think it's all returnees though. I don't think Amber got access to SM or family phone calls. Maybe it's a special for ex-F2s only, haha.

(Jmo)

chasingpavements wrote:Oh, no, I don't think she's allowed to FT; I'm just saying I think she's treated like the parents who go on the show, who get to talk to their kids regularly (JJ and Julia mentioned FT-ing their kids a lot on BIP, that's why I brought it up) but still don't have access to their phones 24/7. Just basing that hunch off of what kasha said. It seems like TPTB offered her perks of being allowed to talk to family to get her to return.

(IMO)

I am going to repeat what I believe to have merit:
Becca has been allowed to communicate with family. 
This does not say how frequently or to whom.
This does not mean anything more or less than what I shared.
So we can't compare her to anyone else factually. It would be supposition. (i.e.-single parent cast)
In all fairness, I don't know if other cast have been allowed this or not, so I can't even label this as a perk. For all we know, other cast might also be offered communication with family.
Years ago, cast were not even supposed to tell parents they were on the show! 
Then this changed because young women simply should not and would not leave for weeks and not inform loved ones of their whereabouts. Noelle, from Matt Grant's season, told me she did confide in her mother even though they were told to tell no one. 
So I would not be surprised if this was morphing again to allow more regimented communication with a loved one during filming. This last sentence is my opinion.

mercieme wrote:It's very disturbing to me that TPTB is repeating things like they did with Nick with Becca re the phone access. I just hope that they are not scripting Becca in the F2 slot, I will really feel sad for her if that happens, JMO.

Not me. I can't have much sympathy for someone who puts themselves in the position to possibly be rejected again for a second time. I didn't feel sorry for Nick, Kacie or Shawntel either. They've done this before and they're not so special that their feelings should be spared over the new batch of contestants. I feel more sorry for the women who don't know what to expect.

nd4reality wrote:Returnees get special treatment. Not only are they getting a second chance for themselves but they r a valuable tools to the producers to keep drama stirring in the ranks. Plus they comes with a pre-built fan base or have viewers that don't like them. Generates cooler talk either way.

Yes very good points. I did not realize that Becca is allowed to contact family during filming. I'm assuming it wouldn't be often if more than once because filming is only 3 weeks IINM?

And I agree with CP, I don't think Amber was given the same treatment as Becca but then again IMO, the discussions about Becca on this site and other sites (I assume) were more often and more heated and with Amber, not so much.

I personally feel that the rules have changed with SM and with contestants having access to phones, etc.
Even last Bach season after it finale episode, videos were uploaded by K's and Becca's SM showing them in the mansion playing games and taking videos with their cell phones.
So it seemed they had them with them while on the show.

I wouldn't be surprised if most of the cast get to have supervised contact with family, etc.
On all the other franchises (Bach NZ and Bach AU and Bette AU) they were allowed to do this as long as not publicly seen (some of it was).
For any social media for US franchise that is publicly seen and while that contestant is on the show (Nick and now Becca) I think it is just allowed to be public for whatever TPTB reasons are.

For me though, I think these things get known anyway (who is on the show or left the show) based on the contestants SM activity anyway and TPTB have their rules but I don't think they are enforcing anything (K's snapchat anyone?).
If they were enforced they'd have no accounts at all, IMO.

bluwavz wrote:

mercieme wrote:It's very disturbing to me that TPTB is repeating things like they did with Nick with Becca re the phone access. I just hope that they are not scripting Becca in the F2 slot, I will really feel sad for her if that happens, JMO.

Not me. I can't have much sympathy for someone who puts themselves in the position to possibly be rejected again for a second time. I didn't feel sorry for Nick, Kacie or Shawntel either. They've done this before and they're not so special that their feelings should be spared over the new batch of contestants. I feel more sorry for the women who don't know what to expect.

You are right Blu, I just wish Becca hadn't gone back, she seems like a lovely girl and I get the impression that her family didn't like how they were portrayed on Farmer Chris's season. I really hope Ben sends her home if she is not F1 before hometowns if possible.

Well Becca as a previous f2 has more draw power than Amber.

She was probably able to negotiate better privaleges than others. Besides, if tptb want to use becca as a smoke screen they could be doing favours for her as well. Win win.

Maybe the perk is more geared towards Becca's family, rather than Becca herself. We've been hearing that they are not happy with the show, and not happy that she is doing this again. But if she can communicate with them and reassure them that things are going well, then maybe they'll be less unhappy. And if she does get a HTD, that might help talk them into participating again. Just speculation.

Buckeye_Fan wrote:Maybe the perk is more geared towards Becca's family, rather than Becca herself.  We've been hearing that they are not happy with the show, and not happy that she is doing this again.  But if she can communicate with them and reassure them that things are going well, then maybe they'll be less unhappy.  And if she does get a HTD, that might help talk them into participating again.  Just speculation.

IMO I don't see why they wouldn't participate. They're a very close family.

DebutAlbum wrote:

Buckeye_Fan wrote:Maybe the perk is more geared towards Becca's family, rather than Becca herself.  We've been hearing that they are not happy with the show, and not happy that she is doing this again.  But if she can communicate with them and reassure them that things are going well, then maybe they'll be less unhappy.  And if she does get a HTD, that might help talk them into participating again.  Just speculation.

IMO I don't see why they wouldn't participate. They're a very close family.

I thought there was a possibility they would not since they'd already done it before, and supposedly felt they had not been portrayed accurately. I thought they seemed like a nice enough family. But I don't know them, and I don't know Becca. Maybe they are fine with being part of the show again.