Becca Tilly - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

KatCAli90 wrote:

eversotrue wrote:I just don't want a returnee to win. I really don't. It would feel like a waste of a season. I really don't even want her to make final 4, either. I want to see 4 NEW families! I just want NEW!

I think this is exactly why people are hating on Becca. Fans don't like any returnees , because they want new people, it's more interesting. Becca is also more of an eye roll, because the returnee storyline has been done so much already, people are tired of it. If this was her first season, she would have a better shot at Ben picking her for this reason. I don't really see the girls being ok with her coming on, or her getting another like able edit. It would be too boring to see her be boring again, imo she will be edited in a totally diff way. People really should only get one chance on this show as a contestant.

Exactly. I've also seen A LOT of people around the Internet feel as if Becca (and other returnees) are fame chasers. So, there's that. I hope that her coming to this board and reading what everyone had to say about her, really made her be cautious of how she goes about the season and potrays herself. Like I said, she's already gonna get a butt load of flack just by coming back, so she needs to do everything else "right". I also hope her edit isn't too bad, because Ben will no doubt have to keep her until at least the mid way point of the season, and if she looks bad...it's gonna make him look bad. Especially when he was quoted saying that girls who don't get along with other girls are a NO NO when getting into a relationship..

Just playing devil's advocate here... What if Becca and Ben were a good match? ICU has given some good reasons why Becca may not be a good fit, but sometimes the heart wants what the heart wants. Would everyone prefer he just meets 25 new girls, it doesn't work out, then he gets to know Becca privately later on? Or would everyone prefer to get to see them fall in love?

Another example. Let's say Chris Lambton became The Bachelor after Ali's season. I assume there would have been an uproar if Peyton joined his season. But look what we would have missed out on getting to witness! Unless the process would have made things so difficult for them, they would not have gotten to know each other as they did, and maybe it wouldn't have worked out.

Since Becca is on the newest installment of Bachelor, I may follow her again on social media, but she is (in my opinion) pretty darn annoying online with her frequent and immature posts. Since she was portrayed as a rather quiet type, I was surprised that she was just the opposite online.

I actually hope the reruns go home quickly this season, but it their presence causes drama, we know that won't happen.

I don't think Chris Lambton is a good example because he chose not to be TB after meeting Peyton. For me if Ben falls for Becca or another returnee that's fine with me. I'm not looking forward to seeing her on my tv again but it's Ben's show and his life.

I always wanted Sophie from Lorenzo's season to be the Bachelorette and she was a virgin. It's all about personality for me. I don't see Becca carrying off the show virgin or not.

For me, I have no idea if Ben and Becca will fall in love - but it could happen.
I gave the last returnee this year a chance and so I will give Becca a chance too.

As far as returnees go, I don't think the audience has as much of a negative feeling towards them right off the bat as the other contestants do, who of course don't want the extra competition. But I also think a lot depends on the way/time they enter the show, and there's a BIG difference between the ones who come in right from the beginning (like Kacie did) vs the ones who join mid-show, like Nick, who was seen by the contestants and fans alike as being given special favors/advantages. And Becca, unlike Nick, was pretty well liked by viewers during her first appearance, so I doubt she will receive anywhere near the flack he did from fans unless she conducts herself poorly (or is edited as such) right off the bat. If the other women are mean to her, she may even receive sympathy from viewers.

I really have no clue how compatible she may be with Ben. Superficially, on paper, they look good, but personality-wise it remains to be seen. As far as her having never been in love before and her reticence with Chris, I suspect that she never had much interest in him past succumbing somewhat to the "Bachelor Bubble" effect, which leads most of them to believe they SHOULD feel something for the guy (because he's such a prize), and since she must already think that Ben is her type, I suspect she will be much more open emotionally this time, if Ben shows any interest in her, and could certainly fall in "Bachelor love", if the stars line up for them. And if that happens, she'll probably also be naive enough and lose her head enough to the brainwashing, to consent to an "engagement" as well.

No matter what happens, Becca will have support from lots of Bach Alum on SM, too, which bodes well and carries a lot of weight when viewers are looking at tweets while watching.
I expect a lot of people from Bach Nation Alum to be on her side, more than any other returnee has had.
I also think viewers will look at her differently since she was the one hesitant about the last lead and now the tide has shown that her hesitancy is in her favour and Ben as lead is seen as much better than the last and Becca choosing to go for him aligns more with how she has been and shows good judgment on her part since she is choosing to go in that direction while being hesitant about the last time she was on.

I have to wonder if based on Becca's comments on this forum if she is going to try for a different edit this time.  Be careful what you wish for with TPTB.  Becca in attempting to not come across as "boring" may be shown as the party girl she has displayed from time to time on SM.  By her own words she is more "obnoxious" IRL.  IMO Becca had a good edit last time so it seems like she is heading into risky territory.  It seems very unlikely TPTB will give her the same edit round two.  Becca seems like a nice gal but she seems to be still trying to find herself.

I don't think Becca will have much control over her edit. Rarely have I seen a cast person on equal ground with TPTB.

Becca is a grown woman. She knows the deal, she signed the contracts. When people talk about her innocence and being "scared" for her, do they think she's mentally handicapped or something? Really, she's not. She made the decision. She takes the risk. She takes the heat if it goes bad.

If her family & friends are so freaked out, then maybe they need to just step off and let the woman live with the decisions she's making. Because if they all insist on running her life, and she lets them, then she has way bigger problems than some possible TV embarrassment.

I don't know what Becca's edit will be but I don't want to assume it will be bad just b/c she is a returnee just like I won't assume Ben's edit will be bad just because they both got good edits the first time round.

I see them as the same. I don't yet see how Becca will be viewed overtly negatively by viewers - if anything, they may see her positively even more so given the viewers themselves are more fans than non-fans and she has a lot of Bach Alum support which TOG never had and there's no seedy/sex/controversy at all with Becca. She actually has a very clean slate, imo. Similar to Ben.

Plus, the same criticism Becca has gotten for being too "boring" is the same criticism that Ben got when he was selected as lead by viewers saying he may be too boring. IMO, boring to me means not as interesting or not as controversial but Becca was beloved by viewers last season and was still seen as boring and Ben was beloved by viewers and still seen as boring - but the beloved outweighed the boring for both of them.

Ben even tweeted in response to being labeled "boring". So they both have received criticism of being too boring. Maybe that is a good thing? Boring Ben meets/falls in love with boring Becca? By Becca commenting and Ben by tweeting his response to being labeled "boring" it seems they also both feel that they are more than just this. So I see a lot in common with both of them.

Bottom line for me is that after these two seasons (Bach and Bette) I am looking forward to a love story more than an interesting season - even if it is boring and if there is not a focus on sex (which Ben and Becca don't seem to be about at all) then that would be my dream season! What may be considered "boring", IMO, is not about being "interesting" but more about not causing drama/controversy for the sake of controversy and after the last season of "interesting" people with lots of controversy/drama I don't want any more drama than necessary so I say bring on boring for Season 20!

AllAboutLove wrote: but Becca was beloved by viewers last season and was still seen as boring and Ben was beloved by viewers and still seen as boring - but the beloved outweighed the boring for both of them.

I'm not sure how these blanket statements can be backed up as fact, but I would appreciate seeing the evidence found outside of this board.