Becca Tilly - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

KatCAli90 wrote:

Beagle wrote:

RammerJammer91 wrote:
Yes. Very confident. But there's a big difference. He's ready to settle down, get married, and have a family. Becca isn't there yet. That's not a bad thing, though.

Ok. I feel there's some piece of the puzzle missing here. Ben tells Becca not to go but yet Becca feels very confident that they'll hit it off. I have to think there was more to their conversation that made Becca confident. Definitely something is missing.

This kind of thing happens ALL THE TIME in the real world, Guy dumps girl or tells girl he's not into her, yet girl STILL thinks she can change his mind. There's no piece missing, it's simply Becca forcing something that Ben already said no to. The sad part is, by her sticking around this long, mostly likely the producers choice not Ben's, she is probably actually convinced he likes her, and is going to be crushed.

TBF, if Ben never straight up told her, "Hey, I'm not into you" but just told her he didn't think it would be a good idea, Becca could take it a completely different way. Like he's just looking out for her because she could get a bad edit this go around or something like that. 

If Becca likes Ben as much as I think she does, I can see her rationalizing it in her favor and not picking up on the signs that he didn't want her there.

All I know is the story keeps changing:
- Becca would 100% not go on the show, but did.
- Ben didn't communicate with Becca pre-show but now stated they did.
- Ben didn't want Becca on show but she went on show and knew this (makes no sense, even with a storyboard for her to do something else).

What doesn't change is this:
- Sleuthing showed Becca was going on the show, she did
- Sleuthing showing Becca was still on show, she is
- Sleuthing indicating Becca had 1on1 and wedding date, she did

None of this means Becca will be F1, but it clearly shows a pattern of consistency/correctness for the sleuthing.
Also, the sleuthing so far is the only thing that can be proven and with supporting evidence.

This all really just shows how little experience Becca has with dating and guys, chasing after a guy always back fires and guys never find it attractive. A guy who wants you will let you know, not make you wonder. If Ben liked Becca as much as Becca likes Ben, he would have made it happen. He didn't, he tried to make it not happen.

BlackHalo wrote:

KatCAli90 wrote:

Beagle wrote:

Ok. I feel there's some piece of the puzzle missing here. Ben tells Becca not to go but yet Becca feels very confident that they'll hit it off. I have to think there was more to their conversation that made Becca confident. Definitely something is missing.

This kind of thing happens ALL THE TIME in the real world, Guy dumps girl or tells girl he's not into her, yet girl STILL thinks she can change his mind. There's no piece missing, it's simply Becca forcing something that Ben already said no to. The sad part is, by her sticking around this long, mostly likely the producers choice not Ben's, she is probably actually convinced he likes her, and is going to be crushed.

TBF, if Ben never straight up told her, "Hey, I'm not into you" but just told her he didn't think it would be a good idea, Becca could take it a completely different way. Like he's just looking out for her because she could get a bad edit this go around or something like that. 

If Becca likes Ben as much as I think she does, I can see her rationalizing it in her favor and not picking up on the signs that he didn't want her there.

Then that would be delusional because she knows he's going on a show to date 25 or so women.

Does it matter? Sleuthing and info we get all helps in the long run. Who cares where it came from and if it's right or not or whatever else. It's still more to "play" with. Bring it ALL on IMO! I like a mind game challenge! You don't have to believe every little thing that's said, but don't bite the hand that feeds you. Otherwise we're on our own. And personally, I like a good team effort.

KatCAli90 wrote:This all really just shows how little experience Becca has with dating and guys, chasing after a guy always back fires and guys never find it attractive. A guy who wants you will let you know, not make you wonder. If Ben liked Becca as much as Becca likes Ben, he would have made it happen. He didn't, he tried to make it not happen.

I agree! But experience or no experience it's all just common sense and Becca isn't that dense IMO.

KatCAli90 wrote:This all really just shows how little experience Becca has with dating and guys, chasing after a guy always back fires and guys never find it attractive. A guy who wants you will let you know, not make you wonder. If Ben liked Becca as much as Becca likes Ben, he would have made it happen. He didn't, he tried to make it not happen.

She needs a guy that can look her in the eyes and genuinely tell her that she is the only girl for him and is the only thing that matters. Someone who is respectful, will treat her right, and has a good heart. That is what matters to her. It's not the best dressed guy or the best-looking guy. In fact, looks aren't extremely important to her because she believes that looks fade but one's heart/character does not. People like Becca really don't come around. She deserves nothing but the best.

Agreed eversotrue! The more info the better. No one is making us believe anything. We can choose to take it or leave it

This might be a case of Ben just being such a nice guy to girls that he's not all that interested in. We don't know what happened with him and Tenley but she seems to still be hung up on him. And now Becca..

Maybe Ben needs to learn how to rip the bandaid off. We will see this season and it makes it all the more intriguing!

RJ, Becca is definitely aiming high with Ben

eversotrue wrote:Does it matter? Sleuthing and info we get all helps in the long run. Who cares where it came from and if it's right or not or whatever else. It's still more to "play" with. Bring it ALL on IMO! I like a mind game challenge! You don't have to believe every little thing that's said, but don't bite the hand that feeds you. Otherwise we're on our own. And personally, I like a good team effort.

I appreciate differing opinions and points of view but as far as factual information goes, I personally would rather have no information than wrong information every time irregardless of the source!!

AllAboutLove wrote:All I know is the story keeps changing:
- Becca would 100% not go on the show, but did.
- Ben didn't communicate with Becca pre-show but now stated they did.
- Ben didn't want Becca on show but she went on show and knew this (makes no sense, even with a storyboard for her to do something else).

What doesn't change is this:
- Sleuthing showed Becca was going on the show, she did
- Sleuthing showing Becca was still on show, she is
- Sleuthing indicating Becca had 1on1 and wedding date, she did

None of this means Becca will be F1, but it clearly shows a pattern of consistency/correctness for the sleuthing.
Also, the sleuthing so far is the only thing that can be proven and with supporting evidence.

This is how I see it! Thanks for the brief summation.  :Nod:

rhondam wrote:

eversotrue wrote:Does it matter? Sleuthing and info we get all helps in the long run. Who cares where it came from and if it's right or not or whatever else. It's still more to "play" with. Bring it ALL on IMO! I like a mind game challenge! You don't have to believe every little thing that's said, but don't bite the hand that feeds you. Otherwise we're on our own. And personally, I like a good team effort.

I appreciate differing opinions and points of view but as far as factual information goes, I personally would rather have no information than wrong information every time irregardless of the source!!

We haven't gotten wrong information though. Just changing ones. And we were always told when they changed. I'd rather have information than sitting like a bump on a log trying to put pieces together based on absolutely nothing. That's just me though.