Becca Tilly - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

It would have been even more embarrassing if Britt came on the show, as Ben rejected her on TV after having ONE conversation with Kaitlyn, despite the fact that he and Britt had a lot more in common (faith, sponsoring children, etc). And, with what Maddy said, I really don't think Britt ever had an interest on coming back to TV.

I think we all speculated that Becca was going on, but a lot of people speculated that Tenley was going on and would be F2 and that's why they played up the "Bachelorette" thing on BIP. I don't think anyone KNEW, until RJ said she was sequestered in a hotel a couple of days before filming began. I still think that Ben might have had an inkling and was prepared for it for the returnees, but I just don't think he straight up said "okay, bring on Becca and Amber!".

(jmo)

I can't feel bad for either Ben or Becca since they signed up for this mess twice. It's totally understandable Ben wants his "own" season and I do think it's annoying to force the situation when she knew he didn't want her there. Maybe she won him over and they've moved past it but then there's this thing with Jared..

The difference between Nick and Becca IMO would be public perception. Nick was portrayed as a lot of things, but he was never really seen as being desperate. In fact, I would say he had more to gain in his return in repairing his image after the AFTR fiasco with Andi. From the minute Kaitlyn saw him in NY, it was very evident that she wanted him there and that continued to play out with every episode when we could see just how strong of a connection they had. The worst part for him was getting his heart broken (again) but he did gain a ton of public support

Now with Becca..she only has to lose. She came off a season in which maybe she wasn't the favorite but she had a fairly positive portrayal. America liked her, Chris seemed to be falling in love with her, but she just didn't love him back. Going back on the show as a woman (as much as I hate to say it) chasing after a guy already puts her in a more vulnerable and desperate light. Add to that the fact that Ben specifically told her not to go on the show, the producers can have a field day with this

loveactually9 wrote:The WORST that can happen IMO is that news comes out that Ben specifically told her not to go on the show (today), she does anyway, they edit her to look desperate, she does not make it anywhere near the F2 like Nick did because she does not have the same connection with Ben, and she is embarrassed on national TV. Which of course she can certainly get over, but it's a scenario most normal people would try to avoid altogether.

Maybe her experience last season in which she did not get her heart broken but rather did the heart breaking made her think she could have just as positive an experience if not more this time around.

I don't know how she will be edited, but the fact that RS/RJ have revealed that Becca acted in what may be interpreted as a desperate way doesn't mean that the producers will even acknowledge this happened, and that it will affect how she is portrayed. If I had to guess, I expect she will actually still get a sympathetic edit, as someone who sincerely "fell in love" with Ben, but he didn't reciprocate and so she (finally) got her heart broken. I think if they were going to capitalize on her supposed desperation, they wouldn't have Ben give her a 1 on 1 at all (WE know they choose who gets the dates, but the general audience is supposed to think BEN is choosing his favorites), and just allow her to moon over him and delude herself that he cares about her; that's usually how they edit the "desperate" ones.

I wouldn't be shocked at all if this is true about Ben telling Becca not to come. I just wish she'd listened.

I hardly think it matters if Becca is seen desperate about Ben.
Heck, most of America was desperate about Ben.

When people watch this show, as general viewers, and see Becca on night one and that she gets a 1on1 date with Ben, they won't see her as "desperate" no matter what stories are being spread b/c they will see Ben the lead choosing to take Becca on a 1on1 date.

It doesn't matter if TPTB make this happen, the general viewer will see it as Ben interested in Becca.

Hardly desperate I'd say. Desperate to general viewers would be her not getting a 1on1 at all and pining away to never get one.
She does get one. So what happens after is just par for the course, IMO, and based on connection, not desperation.

If anything, the general viewer may feel bad for her if she does go on a wedding date and Ben "chooses" her for this and then dumps her.
jmo

Before this came out I was in full support of a potential connection between Becca and Ben and couldn't understand how anyone could know with certainty that he wasn't going to pick her. Heck I even thought the wedding date was a good sign that there was at least some sort of chemistry there. But with this news, I can definitely see why RJ is so concerned. Becca is giving the producers a lot of ammo and is absolutely putting herself at their editing mercy. It's just not a risk that someone who wasn't desperate would've taken knowing that the lead himself discouraged her from coming on

They're all desperate, imo. Ben included.
None of them need a TV show to find their wife/husband/partner.
I don't see Becca any different from anyone else, whether on the show one time or 3 times, for love or not for love.
It's still a TV show. No matter how many times or for what reasons.
jmho

You know, finding out this tidbit makes the wedding dress date even funnier. Wearing a wedding dress before one is engaged could be seen as desperate and TPTB could totally use that make her look desperate along with this previous dismissal of Becca by Ben.

It probably makes me a bad person but I kinda hope they do make her look the part of the desperate girl and that he gets to shoot her down in spectacular fashion.

If she chose to come on despite Ben's admonition not to, she must have determined that the other "positives" connected to doing this show were worth it for her even though she was unlikely to be chosen.  Or that Ben would change his mind once he got to know her.  The first makes her an opportunist, the second a bit delusional.  Of course, it's also possible that the producers lied to her and told her that Ben had a "change of heart" about her after they were in contact and now wanted her (I don't put anything past them, if they had already created their story line for Becca and found out she was hesitating).  Do we know the timing on when Ben told her, when she volunteered to be on, when the deal was actually struck?

Personally, I don't care much about this latest development if true, but if I were her family/friend, I would certainly be concerned.  Although if she is fully aware that Ben won't be picking her, she is in less danger of being brokenhearted, one would think.  I still find it kind of bizarre for someone who has never been in love or in a serious relationship to "cut their teeth" on this show/format, but maybe the experience will help her in future romantic endeavors?  There's got to be some reason why these people keep subjecting themselves to this sh*t, not to mention most come away with positive feelings about the experience/exploitation overall.

The thing is, how do we "know" that Ben told Becca not to come on the show?
It is mere speculation at this point.
RS and anyone else can back anything they want with "sources".
If their sources are from the same camp, I won't be surprised if these sources are misleading.
They did that with K's season and RS fell for it hook, line and sinker even though he was 100% (until a certain snapchat blew up in his face).
So until I actually see evidence for this... it is all just hearsay to me.

Actually there is quite a stigma for returnees. Going on the show the first time is par for the course - it's an adventure, a journey, an experience (yadayadayada) that these people are "lucky" enough to be invited on. They get to travel, get to promote stuff, and if they're really "lucky" they get picked. But if you go on this same show a second time and you're NOT the lead, people start to wonder why you are there again. Is she just fame hungry? Is she not done promoting herself? How does she have so much time on her hands? And the best "right" reason for returning is wanting a genuine shot with that specific lead. But when said lead has already told her that she should not go on the show and she does anyway, that makes her look very, very bad IMO. And nothing leads me to believe that TPTB will not take full advantage of the vulnerable position she put herself in, when they've had less to work with in the past