Bachelor In Paradise - Season 2 - Episode Discussions - #3 *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

"..resulting in the most heart-breaking, tear-filled, epic breakup in all of Bachelor history."

Yeah I think not. Maybe for Carly!

Linds911 wrote:"..resulting in the most heart-breaking, tear-filled, epic breakup in all of Bachelor history."

Yeah I think not. Maybe for Carly!

I think they had one of those almost every season with the exception of a handful.

True!

Bet Tanner doesn't give Jade a final rose since he wants to continue giving them to her ... so he gives her the engagement ring instead. Sweet!!! I saw a pic of Tenley leaving in Tears somewhere but not sure of what phrase in the press release might refer to her & Joshua. Agree that Kirk is the one who decides it is too soon to fast for him and Carly.

chasingpavements wrote:There's so much lying going on, it's hard to keep track. About stupid things too, like the whole facetiming with Julia and her daughter. I think that Julia has exaggerated the truth in the past (like how Joe knew about Ireland when he really just knew that she had a boy or a girl or when she said that Joe picked her out of everybody, even though she asked him out), but it never seems malicious or on purpose. It's like she just really remembered things differently, because she was SO into him. Sammi, on the other hand, has a history of lying and has been caught red-handed. And, she lied about things that could be PROVEN! So, yeah, when it comes to the whole FT-ing with Julia/daughter and the permission conversation, I'm going to take Julia's side here.

nikikass wrote:I am confused over Juelia saying that they went on vacation together with Samantha.   Did I dream that?

Samantha made it seem they were just acquaintances and not close.

That was disheartening if that was not the case and Sam belittled their relationship to justify her actions.

Juelia is not the innocent party in all of this.  I do feel bad for her though.

Personally I think they are all "batshit crazy"  

Regarding Juelia & Samantha's friendship, I did some sleuthing on this and what I found I think supports Juelia's version of reality. On Juelia's Instagram there were obviously a lot of photos taken of them together when they were on the Bachelor, but there was also one taken in Miami with Amber and 3 other women I don't recognize, which would be the vacation since I don't think they went to Miami on Chris's season.

And then Juelia posted this photo https://instagram.com/p/zIXuSjzYdl/ with a Happy birthday message for Samantha:

"jueliakinney: Happiest birthday to this beauty!!!! I hope it's the best yet! #thebachelor #sisterwives #thoseeyestho #bachelornation can't wait to see you soon!"

... to which Samantha replied: "samanthasteffen_aw i love you!!!! thank u so much for the best voicemail EVER from u & ireland today!!! see you soon!"

To me those sound like the kinds of things that reasonably close friends would say to each other; maybe not BFF's but definitely more than acquaintances. And if Juelia left a VM for Sam with Ireland it wouldn't be that much of a stretch that she also facetimed with her daughter.

Great sleuthing.

And

Welcome Cucumber37!

Great sleuthing Cucumber!

Also Jade just posted an IG and Snapchat, pretty sure its Tanner's backyard in KC (based on his IG photos)... so they must be still together

Cucumber37! Excellent sleuthing. I didn't find Samantha believable but nice to see some confirmation.

The Finale where did they time go

That was fast they just sat down and now going to the fantasy suite

Who is the new arrival?