Bachelor In Paradise - Season 2 - Episode Discussions - #2 *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

The infamous text finally revealed (source:Joebaileysego Twitter) 

Bachelor in Paradise ‏@BachParadise
Well, maybe ONE of the villains. #BachelorInParadise

Samantha Steffen
‏@SammiSteffen

UH OH this isnt confusing. Finally some1 tells me the EXTENT of what happened bf i got there.Thx @DanGCox #BachelorInParadise #came2mysenses

Finally? Perhaps you should've listened to your "good friend" Juelia when she tried to tell you first thing! She really underestimates people's intelligence.

I have to say I kinda felt bad for Joe this episode, I found that the editing definitely was against Sam and to an extent Dan, found him very pretentious and condescending this episode.

All IMO.

I must say, Kirk and Carly better have a huge fallout in tomorrow's episode, cause if not it, will be a super random break up.. .(like two days after giving her a rose made from scratch) .....It's just weird and their post-show SM behavior is even weirder if he really does dump her.

amber james ‏@amberjameschi  51m51 minutes ago
Now @DanGCox is under @samsmithworld spell. Until next week. #BacheloreinParadise

Dan favorited it so at least he's over Sam. ETA: just noticed that's not Sam's twitter.

I'm not a fan of Samantha but I also think this whole Joe thing has been overblown. I don't care that they texted pre-show but even so it did affect things this season. There are so many other nice people on the show and romances that we're barely seeing but I guess they're too drama free.

chloep wrote:I must say, Kirk and Carly better have a huge fallout in tomorrow's episode, cause if not it, will be a super random break up.. .(like two days after giving her a rose made from scratch) .....It's just weird and their post-show SM behavior is even weirder if he really does dump her.

Irk?

These breakups coming fast and furious at the end with barely any indication ?

chloep wrote:I must say, Kirk and Carly better have a huge fallout in tomorrow's episode, cause if not it, will be a super random break up.. .(like two days after giving her a rose made from scratch) .....It's just weird and their post-show SM behavior is even weirder if he really does dump her.

I agree. I also feel like as much as I love Tanner and Jade we have seen so little of them in actual quality screen time for them to get engaged in two episodes. I am so sick of the Samantha/Joe debacle would rather see the development of the actual real relationships.

chloep wrote:I must say, Kirk and Carly better have a huge fallout in tomorrow's episode, cause if not it, will be a super random break up.. .(like two days after giving her a rose made from scratch) .....It's just weird and their post-show SM behavior is even weirder if he really does dump her.

I never got the sense that Kirk really saw her as a long-term thing, just something to ensure that he'd get that 2k every episode. He probably wouldn't have had doubts about sleeping with her, if he was THAT crazy about her. I know that might have just been editing/made-up, but he never seemed smitten like Tanner is (or even Cody and Marcus from last year). I also don't follow Kirk, although I check his Twitter every once in a while, but it seemed like Carly was the one who was gushing about Kirk non-stop but Kirk really hasn't, except for a tweet here and there. Nothing like Tanner/Jade's love fest on twitter.

According to RS, Kirk breaks up with her before the overnight/last chance date, so either it's something he had planned from the start or something happens next week. I kind of think it was his plan all along.

Who does Chelsey go on a date with in tomorrow's epi?

Kirks PIs don't indicate any hesitancy on his part or that he is playing the game.

I think Kirk simply realizes he doesn't see anything long term with Carly so why prolong the inevitable. They seem to be on good terms now based on social media so while Carly may be upset when it happened I imagine she gets over it and realized he was right pretty quickly.