Bachelor In Paradise - Season 2 - Episode Discussions - #2 *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

stillhoping wrote:Regarding Juella - I am so sick of her.

She played Jonathan for a rose....she had no interest in Mikey and he liked Claire...

Juella jumped on Joe with his date card, and took his chance to even talk to others away ....they had ONE date..yeah he played her...to stay in Paradise...so what? She was there from day one, and she twisted a lot of things

Mikey and Jonathan told her the facts - she refused to believe them. I feel Jonathan was the one who was wronged

As long as this show gets rid of the roseless, people will play to stay. I have zero respect for Juella - why didnt she go home to her kid when she knew there was no one there for her? she had nothing with Mikey. Maybe the fun in the sun, hanging with buddies, the money...who knows? she is just ridiculous the way she carries on. I hope they never allow her on another show , total bore and everyone has to tiptoe around her.

I am also sick of seeing her in Bach Nation selfies  - when is she ever with her kid anyhow?

stillhoping wrote:Trivia question....I don't know the answer...who does? or who has good memory and good at math

who has spent the most time on Bach/ette etc??

weeks filming the show itself - plus other weeks...

Brad Womach and Jen both had 2 full seasons (mostly the loser lead did not make it to final)
so would they tie?

Tenley and Claire both have spent a lot of time in bach world..
and what about that guy that keeps turning up like a bad penny? Nick also has done some serious time in bach nation

your thoughts?

Beagle wrote:I sort of agree with you on Juelia. She had 1 date with Joe and she acted like he just broke their engagement, and so did the rest of the crew. She wasn't into Mickey but brought him back to stay on the show longer. I don't find her that likable at all like they are trying to make her look.

Amethyst wrote:

Beagle wrote:I sort of agree with you on Juelia. She had 1 date with Joe and she acted like he just broke their engagement, and so did the rest of the crew. She wasn't into Mickey but brought him back to stay on the show longer. I don't find her that likable at all like they are trying to make her look.

I think if Joe had just had a fun date with Juelia, and told her that he liked her, no one would have minded. It's just that he laid it on so thick with her, and made it seem to her like he had found his match in Paradise. It was the complete lack of sincerity on his part which was problematic.

From what Juelia was saying, once Joe got the rose, he was through with her. Who acts that way?

Beagle wrote:

stillhoping wrote:Regarding Juella - I am so sick of her.

She played Jonathan for a rose....she had no interest in Mikey and he liked Claire...

Juella jumped on Joe with his date card, and took his chance to even talk to others away ....they had ONE date..yeah he played her...to stay in Paradise...so what? She was there from day one, and she twisted a lot of things

Mikey and Jonathan told her the facts - she refused to believe them. I feel Jonathan was the one who was wronged

As long as this show gets rid of the roseless, people will play to stay. I have zero respect for Juella - why didnt she go home to her kid when she knew there was no one there for her? she had nothing with Mikey. Maybe the fun in the sun, hanging with buddies, the money...who knows? she is just ridiculous the way she carries on. I hope they never allow her on another show , total bore and everyone has to tiptoe around her.

I am also sick of seeing her in Bach Nation selfies  - when is she ever with her kid anyhow?

I sort of agree with you on Juelia. She had 1 date with Joe and she acted like he just broke their engagement, and so did the rest of the crew. She wasn't into Mickey but brought him back to stay on the show longer. I don't find her that likable at all like they are trying to make her look.

Max64 wrote:

Beagle wrote:

stillhoping wrote:Regarding Juella - I am so sick of her.

She played Jonathan for a rose....she had no interest in Mikey and he liked Claire...

Juella jumped on Joe with his date card, and took his chance to even talk to others away ....they had ONE date..yeah he played her...to stay in Paradise...so what? She was there from day one, and she twisted a lot of things

Mikey and Jonathan told her the facts - she refused to believe them. I feel Jonathan was the one who was wronged

As long as this show gets rid of the roseless, people will play to stay. I have zero respect for Juella - why didnt she go home to her kid when she knew there was no one there for her? she had nothing with Mikey. Maybe the fun in the sun, hanging with buddies, the money...who knows? she is just ridiculous the way she carries on. I hope they never allow her on another show , total bore and everyone has to tiptoe around her.

I am also sick of seeing her in Bach Nation selfies  - when is she ever with her kid anyhow?

I sort of agree with you on Juelia. She had 1 date with Joe and she acted like he just broke their engagement, and so did the rest of the crew. She wasn't into Mickey but brought him back to stay on the show longer. I don't find her that likable at all like they are trying to make her look.

I don't find Julia that likable either, she comes across so "needy",  and I find all of her drama about Joe annoying.  She was warned about Joe by several, and chose him anyway.   The thing that I didn't like was at the RC everyone was so concerned about Julia getting a rose, that she deserved to stay and they were putting the pressure on JJ and Dan to give her theirs.  Jade, Tanner, Carly, Kirk, etc. were all saying, Dan needs to do the right thing and give his rose to Julia instead of Amber, why the heck should he!!!  If Tanner and Kirk were so concerned why didn't they give her their rose.

Beagle wrote:

stillhoping wrote:Regarding Juella - I am so sick of her.

She played Jonathan for a rose....she had no interest in Mikey and he liked Claire...

Juella jumped on Joe with his date card, and took his chance to even talk to others away ....they had ONE date..yeah he played her...to stay in Paradise...so what? She was there from day one, and she twisted a lot of things

Mikey and Jonathan told her the facts - she refused to believe them. I feel Jonathan was the one who was wronged

As long as this show gets rid of the roseless, people will play to stay. I have zero respect for Juella - why didnt she go home to her kid when she knew there was no one there for her? she had nothing with Mikey. Maybe the fun in the sun, hanging with buddies, the money...who knows? she is just ridiculous the way she carries on. I hope they never allow her on another show , total bore and everyone has to tiptoe around her.

I am also sick of seeing her in Bach Nation selfies  - when is she ever with her kid anyhow?

I sort of agree with you on Juelia. She had 1 date with Joe and she acted like he just broke their engagement, and so did the rest of the crew. She wasn't into Mickey but brought him back to stay on the show longer. I don't find her that likable at all like they are trying to make her look.

chasingpavements wrote:Catching up on Sunday's episode. Loved Clare interrupted Sammi and being like "can you let her talk? She's your friend, isn't she?". So straightforward and b*tchy and I loved it. I was proud of Julia for refusing JJ's "pity" rose, but I do not buy her sudden interest in Mikey. Does anyone remember how she practically shoved him off when he tried to kiss her? Just seems like something the producers got her to do, because Julia and Mikey seem to be two of the most liked people in that group. Loved what Sharleen had to say about it:

Why force something? If some magical connection between Mikey and Juelia really were there in the first place, Joe never would have had the power to change Juelia’s mind. Yes, what Joe did to her was unbelievably censored-ish, there’s no doubt about that. But Juelia was ripe for the picking when Joe came around; it’s not like Joe wrenched her from Mikey’s gargantuan arms. (Let’s not forget, when Joe had his horseback riding date card, he said to a group, “So, does anybody wanna go horseback riding?”, to which Juelia raised her hand and said, “I do.”) I’m not a believer in this “leave no stone unturned” bull crap. Mikey is not a stone left unturned, and even if he were, they hardly saw each other as more than a ticket to sticking around longer. They lived in the same space for several days, where Mikey was linked to Clare and Juelia was linked to Jonathan. If they had something worth exploring, it would have happened then. I’m not defending Joe in any way, but for all his villainy, he was actually not the one to “rob” Juelia of the chance to “find love.” Maybe—just maybe!—Juelia’s perfect match isn’t one of the two or so unattached men to sporadically rotate through the Paradise roster.

I genuinely like Juelia. I really do. And more importantly, just about everybody on Paradise seems to adore her, so that speaks volumes. (It really does.) But what perturbs me is how much the attention she receives has a tone of sympathy and pity to it. This is by no means her fault. We know by now how much this show loves a tragic backstory. Thus, we haven’t gotten much insight into her charisma, intelligence, or appeal as a romantic interest, but rather have only seen her painted a hapless sad sack who deserves love for being a hapless sad sack. To her credit, she did refuse JJ’s “pity” rose, but how was the show allowing Mikey’s return—as per her own request and after she herself sent him home—not also an act of pity?