The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 8 July 6th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

emusha wrote:

Lucas15 wrote:

emusha wrote: that was cracking me up NICK last season went to the front desk told the lady he was andi's husband to get him to tell him the room number -- that was OBVIOUSLY also a setup

Best laugh I've had all day! I KNEW I had seen this before but how ironic that it was Shawn pulling the same gimmick on Nick that Nick pulled on Andi. Too funny!

the irony is that last season nick got called a stalker, creep, shady, arrogant, dishonest because he went to the front desk to try to see Andi...he went thorough a lot of character assassination for his actions... I doubt shawn will be put through the same this season cos even now he's floating in and out of hotel rooms with no one saying anything about him...ohh the irony!

Oh I don't know I think Shawn is taking plenty of flack nowadays. Like I said, everyone is not being painted very pretty this year.

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Unless Kaitlyn faked a visit from Aunt Flo, I can't imagine Nick proposing if Kaitlyn was like "I totally want to marry you! But, ew, please don't touch me".[/quote]

Meg Ryan was able to replicate some pretty damning sounds without doing anything close to what the sounds usually mean--all in a NY deli. 
Do I think it probably happened--yes. Do I know it happened--no.

emusha wrote:

Lucas15 wrote:

emusha wrote: that was cracking me up NICK last season went to the front desk told the lady he was andi's husband to get him to tell him the room number -- that was OBVIOUSLY also a setup

Best laugh I've had all day! I KNEW I had seen this before but how ironic that it was Shawn pulling the same gimmick on Nick that Nick pulled on Andi. Too funny!

the irony is that last season nick got called a stalker, creep, shady, arrogant, dishonest because he went to the front desk to try to see Andi...he went thorough a lot of character assassination for his actions... I doubt shawn will be put through the same this season cos even now he's floating in and out of hotel rooms with no one saying anything about him...ohh the irony!

Agreed. And imho, the reason for this is as simple as Shawn=F1.

emusha wrote:

Lucas15 wrote:

emusha wrote: that was cracking me up NICK last season went to the front desk told the lady he was andi's husband to get him to tell him the room number -- that was OBVIOUSLY also a setup

Best laugh I've had all day! I KNEW I had seen this before but how ironic that it was Shawn pulling the same gimmick on Nick that Nick pulled on Andi. Too funny!

the irony is that last season nick got called a stalker, creep, shady, arrogant, dishonest because he went to the front desk to try to see Andi...he went thorough a lot of character assassination for his actions... I doubt shawn will be put through the same this season cos even now he's floating in and out of hotel rooms with no one saying anything about him...ohh the irony!

I hear you emusha... but I don't understand, really.
How is it possible that man-baby Shawn gets a free pass as he stomps around whinning and yelling, while Nick, who's saying repeatedly and respectfully, "it's K's choice", is held to the fire??
I guess it all goes to show that we all look to forgive those we love regardless of their actions.
I don't know K, but based on what I've read, I certainly don't respect her or think she is a good role model for women. If she's still with Shawn, based on the way he's been described, she's behaving like a door mat and not exhibiting a lot of self-respect, IMHO.

Shawn is being painted as a possessive , whiny, arrogant, d bag, and so on and so on by people in this forum and elsewhere, so i don't understand what you guys are talking about.

bilolo wrote:Shawn is being painted as a possessive , whiny, arrogant, d bag, and so on and so on by people in this forum and elsewhere, so i don't understand what you guys are talking about.

Exactly!  No way is he getting a free pass because he is F1 or looks like Ryan Gosling.  Everybody is being thrown under the bus through TPTB and their own actions.  Freshness apparently is being real and being shown everyone's faults this season.  If anything I think Nick is being painted a little better than last season.

It goes both ways - I think had Nick been F1, the same people criticizing Kait and Shawn would be praising her for her good decision in choosing Nick since he is mature and so on. Just the nature of the game.

I really think Shawn & Kaitlyn are perfect for each other. And that is not a compliment to either of them.

AllAboutLove wrote:

emusha wrote:

Lucas15 wrote:

Best laugh I've had all day! I KNEW I had seen this before but how ironic that it was Shawn pulling the same gimmick on Nick that Nick pulled on Andi. Too funny!

the irony is that last season nick got called a stalker, creep, shady, arrogant, dishonest because he went to the front desk to try to see Andi...he went thorough a lot of character assassination for his actions... I doubt shawn will be put through the same this season cos even now he's floating in and out of hotel rooms with no one saying anything about him...ohh the irony!

Agreed. And imho, the reason for this is as simple as Shawn=F1.

I'd have to disagree that Shawn isn't being called out on his behavior - especially around here - there are plenty of negative opinions about him, which is fine, just saying there's no free pass happening.  And also, I really like Shawn best this season, I liked Nick best last season (other than sweet Marcus) and in neither case was it because of the position they finished in.  I had zero interest in the F1 last season so at least for me the men I like on the show has to do with personal attraction and who grabs my interest most on their own and in their relationship with the lead, not based on how they finish.  JMO.

relaxing wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:

emusha wrote:

the irony is that last season nick got called a stalker, creep, shady, arrogant, dishonest because he went to the front desk to try to see Andi...he went thorough a lot of character assassination for his actions... I doubt shawn will be put through the same this season cos even now he's floating in and out of hotel rooms with no one saying anything about him...ohh the irony!

Agreed. And imho, the reason for this is as simple as Shawn=F1.

I'd have to disagree that Shawn isn't being called out on his behavior - especially around here - there are plenty of negative opinions about him, which is fine, just saying there's no free pass happening.  And also, I really like Shawn best this season, I liked Nick best last season (other than sweet Marcus) and in neither case was it because of the position they finished in.  I had zero interest in the F1 last season so at least for me the men I like on the show has to do with personal attraction and who grabs my interest most on their own and in their relationship with the lead, not based on how they finish.  JMO.

I agree Relaxing! I liked Nick last year as well. Certainly the fact that he was not F1 and someone else was did not sway my opinion of either of them. This year, I like Shawn and his relationship with Kait better than I like Nick and his relationship with Kait. I realize others have different opinions and that's what makes this board so great.

Alanna wrote:I feel like we'll probably find out because K knows Nick will spill the beans (again) at atfr if she doesn't fess up- why did you make fiancé stuff AND almost wife stuff twice?! Blahblah. No secrets with these characters.

IF Kaitlyn slept with Nick again in FS, let him propose and then rejected him, I think Nick has every right to ask her why? I want to know, and reading from this forum, plenty of people are scratching their heads, why Kaitlyn why? Nick didn't spill the beans, RS and US and the inside sources did.

I would not be surprised if TPTB was constantly on K's ear: what if Shawn leaves and Nick leaves as well? You'd better reassure Nick in FS so he will stick around and propose. HOWEVER, ultimately, K is the one who chooses to sleep with Nick twice, if the US article is true (last year, they reported Andi slept with both men and the rejected F2 wrote a letter. I was so hoping it wasn't true but it turned out to be true, so I tend to believe them). She's the one saying my body is my business, blah blah, then she needs to be responsible for her own actions and consequences. She's a 30 years old adult woman, right? So don't tell me TPTB made her do so.
IMO.

JMHO: The reason I say that Shawn = F1 is the simplest explanation when not taking into account personality or best fit for F1, etc... is that while there are definitely fans of F2 and like him, the issue is that F1 is more popular on SM than the F1.
So when looking just at statistics/numbers, F1 Shawn is more liked.
Because Nick is F2 again (and not say, F4 or F1) then the variable I look at is not Nick but F1 position.