Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Discussion #5

GuardianAngel wrote:Therapy program is in the Nick Viall Fan thread. This thread is for General Discussion.

So glad I'm holding off watching this season. From all of your descriptions, I'm sure I would be as certain as top shelf... and I seriously can not live through another slap in the face like last Bach'ette season.

That's right! I am NOT going to be fooled twice!!

If it weren't for snapchat, I would still be thinking K left without any commitment.

Kashathediva wrote:If it weren't for snapchat, I would still be thinking K left without any commitment.

That's interesting Kasha... so you wouldn't be persuaded it was Nick?

Kashathediva wrote:If it weren't for snapchat, I would still be thinking K left without any commitment.

For me, it was her interviews this week where she just glows about Shawn and uses "us" to describe them and uses past tense for Nick, said she slept with him because he's a flirt (not that she was falling for him), and tries to quickly move on from talking about him. Crazily enough, that was more substantial proof to me than snapchat.

chasingpavements wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:If it weren't for snapchat, I would still be thinking K left without any commitment.

For me, it was her interviews this week where she just glows about Shawn and uses "us" to describe them and uses past tense for Nick, said she slept with him because he's a flirt (not that she was falling for him), and tries to quickly move on from talking about him. Crazily enough, that was more substantial proof to me than snapchat.

IA about thinking it was no commitment. As for the interviews, these are post-snapchat and before then Kaitlyn didn't act or look as happy imo. I think snapchatgate is what allowed her to use past tense for Nick.

TopShelf wrote:

MonicaJM2001 wrote:

happydays wrote:^^ Haha TopShelf, your optimism is starting to bring alive my crushed dreams.

I think Kaitlyn deserve an emmy nomination if Nick actually is her F1

IMO oscars to everybody if Nick is F1.

But isn't that only b/c of the snapchat video, really?  Before that we were hearing she chose nobody and that was believable to some.  

I would not be handing out an oscar to Nick or Kaitlyn if they end up together, I think that last episode showed such intense passion it was borderline soft porn.  50 Shades of Nick!  So, at this point, if it weren't for snapchatgate, many people would be on the Nick bandwagon with me.

As it stands I literally think I'm the only one who thinks she chooses Nick, and even that I know is probably wrong but I can't have fun watching without thinking it's him.  I'm viewing through my unicorn riding on rainbows lense.  That's how much I love Nick!  I need treatment, is there a therapy program around here?

Well admittedly for me yes snapchat is what crushed my belief. I told my nonspoiled friends who watch the show to be careful about going online as they could read about the Snapchat fiasco that would give away her pick and to my surprise they already knew and both were saying how it might be a trick and they are skeptical about what it actually means. And these two hate Nick, I would have thought they'd be jumping for joy. Go figure. I know I read alot of speculation/hopes from many that Shawn must have been the sex guy not Nick based on K interviews and how she was saying she doesn't regret the sex, just the timing. I totally get with you about needing to have some hope to enjoy watching it I definitely feel the same way. As for therapy, I don't know if any amount of therapy can help with some of the stuff we watch on this show .

Initially I thought Nick was the F1 because of the pre SM flirting which I found cute. There's no way it would be anyone else IMO. However, out of the limo, I saw the immediate connection with Shawn.

Her excitement at Nick arriving once again swayed me back to Nick. SCgate relieved me of having to think any more.

I think if we took snapchat out of the equation, we had a battle between Nick and Shawn. This is what the editing told me. 
Since I don't see Nick having made any out of town trips or possible SHV, I don't see him as F1.  Then add in snapchat.

chasingpavements wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:If it weren't for snapchat, I would still be thinking K left without any commitment.

For me, it was her interviews this week where she just glows about Shawn and uses "us" to describe them and uses past tense for Nick, said she slept with him because he's a flirt (not that she was falling for him), and tries to quickly move on from talking about him. Crazily enough, that was more substantial proof to me than snapchat.

the interviews just don't do it for me. last season many said Chris glowed talking about Becca and he always used such supleratives about her and say she is the total package and then he would say Whitney looked like a "mother" to him?? The blogs gushed about Becca as well. Des gushed about Brooks even about scenes that did not air, she blogged about the episode about being in love with Brooks. The blogs, interviews don't mean squat to me. The snapchat however I cannot argue against since snapchats are real time deals. I don't doubt that video on snapchat was done 6/12/15 whatever time it was and it was Kaitlyn and Shawn in the video. The thing that can be questioned about it is was it simply a stupid mistake by Kaitlyn thus blowing a big KABOOM the show would have had on RS, or is it a planned hoax to further an even bigger KABOOM they want to reveal at the end of July? Obviously I would love it to be a hoax but seeing Shawn and how he acts on the show right now........I don't see how they would convince him to do a fake SH/Snapchat with Kaitlyn. I guess they could offer him money or Bachelor or something since he doesn't seemed committed to any employment right now since he quit his job to go be on Bachelorette. My gut at this point is telling me to just take the snapchat at face value and accept that K/N won't be together at the end.

Thanks for all the replies.  
It sounds like a combination of the editing, sm, SHVs and interviews.  And of course, snapchat. A sleuther's dream.  

^^^ You can't compare chris S. to kaitlyn. IMO, Chris was not in love with whitney. I think she would agree now. The signs were there. I actually like shawn and kaitlyn together and she seems giddy post show. Time will tell if it continues. ;)

Like GA, relieved I don't have to watch. Also like Kasha wrote, Nick is constantly active on SM, practically we can keep his itinerary in check (maybe with a bit of a guess) and he indeed never "left incognito" for a few days for any chance of SHV, while Shawn is SM silent most of the time, wasn't spotted much, isn't restrained to one place because of his job, so he is more likely able to travel undetected.