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Post by Guest Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:08 pm

Alanna wrote:I'm sure she's rewriting history a little here because she's 1/2 of Team Snapchat now but what struck me most about her balcony speech is that she said she'll be left with NO ONE if Nick tells the men (Shawn) what they did. So I took it to mean that it really was just sex for her and she wasn't planning on picking him anyway. JMO.

That stuck out to me too - it's possible that it was just producer prodding (what if Shawn really IS the one you are supposed to be with? What if Nick is just a sl*t-shamer like everyone else think he is? What if Nick finds out that you spent 8 hours in bed with Shawn and he leaves too?), but, yeah, very telling. To me, that honestly makes it a little worse. It's one thing to have a Ali moment, where she thought Roberto was the one until she went on a date with Frank, but it's another to be consistently believe "I'm in love with Shawn and want to end up with him and only him...but I'm going to be all over another guy and have sex with him".

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:14 pm

I actually thought her explaining why she was attracted and giddy with Nick was OK as an answer to the question she  was asked.

But given that this is probably the most we've heard about Nick as a person from this this week, for Nick, this is definitely Andi 2.0 -- I reckon he'll definitely feel like his relationship is being belittled and tidied up.

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:26 pm

I do feel like Kaitlyn has definitely changed her tune on Nick. In the beginning of the season, she talked about how she knew that he was a good guy and came on the show for the right reasons and in her blog, even said that they were the "closest two people can get without ever meeting" and that he was her "to-go advice person". Now, she barely mentions Nick in her blog, is straight-faced about him while gushing about Shawn, Ben Z, Chris, etc. in her interviews. I wouldn't be surprised if there is still tension in their relationship about Nick and that she's downplaying their connection for Shawn.

It really does seem like Andi 2.0. Except it doesn't seem like Nick is as into Kaitlyn as he was into Andi. It might just be the editing, but I feel like he probably does need someone a bit more ambitious and intellectual for the long-term.

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Post by mercieme Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:48 pm

chasingpavements wrote:I do feel like Kaitlyn has definitely changed her tune on Nick. In the beginning of the season, she talked about how she knew that he was a good guy and came on the show for the right reasons and in her blog, even said that they were the "closest two people can get without ever meeting" and that he was her "to-go advice person". Now, she barely mentions Nick in her blog, is straight-faced about him while gushing about Shawn, Ben Z, Chris, etc. in her interviews. I wouldn't be surprised if there is still tension in their relationship about Nick and that she's downplaying their connection for Shawn.

It really does seem like Andi 2.0. Except it doesn't seem like Nick is as into Kaitlyn as he was into Andi. It might just be the editing, but I feel like he probably does need someone a bit more ambitious and intellectual for the long-term.

Some of us said from the get go that Nick had no business being on this season because we did not see a long term connection with Kaitlyn. Nick is just too cerebral for Kaitlyn & IMO Andi was a better match for him intetllectually at least, JMHO.

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Post by mindless Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:53 pm

albean99 wrote:I just watched that interview on Yahoo and didn't come away with an impression that she was dismissing Nick at all. She was asked what it is about him that she was attracted to (not those words - can't remember exactly) and she said he's a flirt and it makes you flirty back plus he's charming.

She made it very clear that she's happy now. I'm glad.

That's how I saw it as well. The interviewer wanted to know what it is about Nick that immediately draws women in, and I think that's a fair question, since it's not like it's usual for two leads in a row to be smitten with the same guy to the point of having sex with him on TV. He's not even considered attractive by most viewers, yet makes women swoon like few others. So it's a very good question and I think Kaitlyn's answer was pretty spot on. He does have this confidence about him, he's not afraid to touch the girl he likes or flirt with her. He makes them feel wanted. I don't think there's anything wrong with it, far from it, I'd want a guy I'm dating to be like that around me as well. It's not like Nick's like that around every single female, just the ones he really likes.

That said, I did sense some dislike or discomfort when she was talking about him, but I guess that's to be expected if she's engaged to Shawn. Who wants to explain why they were so turned on by another guy while engaged to someone else, who also happens to hate said guy? Awkward.

I also didn't take what she said on the balcony as meaning she never had any intention of picking Nick. If Nick had told the other guys, then I don't think she would've wanted anything to do with him and I don't blame her. But I was bothered by her thinking he might do that, since it showed such distrust. Why sleep with someone you don't trust in the first place? I hope it was just producer prodding that made her consider that.


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Post by emusha Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:04 pm

hadn't watched the aol video that aal posted was just responding to the "he's a flirt" comment without context -- sounds like will have to watch back to get a real read... In any case -- K has changed her tune on him and that signals what's happening in her current relationship with shawn... i hope they make it cos it's already a lot for this relationship to come out of the bach bubble --- shawn's behavior as an F1 very much shows he has very little confidence in K and her behavior shows that she's very much modifying her speech and descriptions and behavior for him even since the beginning of airing when she was very much supportive of Nick.
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Post by Kashathediva Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:28 pm

I guess that's better than wondering where they lay. Maybe not.



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Post by remockered Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:30 pm

(TV Guide) What did Kait mean, when Ross said how disliked Nick is by the public, and she said she previously thought it was the edit, but she gets it now?  Huh?


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Post by alwaystulips Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:35 pm

pavalygurl wrote:
IrishGal wrote:
pavalygurl wrote:I have been in that Cathedral and it is beautiful.  As to being offended, I come from a large Irish Catholic family and the wake was similar to many I have attended and the dinner/kissing on church property was not too outrageous...one former Catholic church in my old neighborhood is now a craft beer brewery/restaurant and it is boisterous.  The Cathedral offers its venues as rental for various events and I would hazard a guess this is not the most shocking thing that may have happened there.  

Thanks for saying what I've been thinking. I grew up Irish Catholic also and did not take offense.  I think other religions forget that Catholics are drinkers and partiers.  We are much more liberal than fundamentalist Christians. wine [/quote

Yes, IG, especially the Irish ones. handwave

The drinking and partying was fine.  I'm a fairly liberal Episcopalian, and we find lots of occasions to drink and party at church.  I was offended by the use of soft core porn music and loud suck face kissing audio over a shot of the cross and stained glass windows depicting the life of Christ.  And, then an immediate cut to Nick feeling up Kaitlyn under her dress.  Those were the editor's decision, of course.  Those shots and audio cues juxtaposed with the cross were awful, IMO, but I pretty much expect that from tptb.
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Post by AllAboutLove Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:39 pm

bluwavz wrote:
Wow. That is quite a preview.

CH says that there will only be 3 guys? So from 6 to 3.
Dr Chris literally is breaking down. What a mess.
Ben H is upset? That's a different side we will see.
Shawn asking K if she is in love with him (this will likely be the first thing we see since they are wearing same clothes as Guinness date).

Question: has that ever happened before? A contestant straight up ask the lead, face to face, "Are you in love with me?"
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Post by soccermom333 Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:39 pm

remockered wrote:(TV Guide) What did Kait mean, when Ross said how disliked Nick is by the public, and she said she previously thought it was the edit, but she gets it now?  Huh?




It means kaitlyn does not like Nick. ;)
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