Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Discussion #3

The first one when he was talking to Kaitlyn is from NYC, after the rap date. I am not sure about the second on where he's sitting on the yellow couch. The promo showed Nick, Ben H and Jared on the same couch, TPTB wanted us to think they were reacting to K's sex revelation.

OnePromise wrote:Do we know that Nick wearing the gray sweater is from NYC?

I was wondering the other day the same thing and thought maybe it was when they met up for a date. The s/cap leads us to believe it's the first time she knows he's on the season. What is she doing in a broom closet?  I was looking at this pic and wondered if the garbage cans in NYC say "Litter". Also looking at the vehicles in the background, isn't it unusual not to see at lease one yellow cab? The vehicles look smaller in size, which would indicate to me maybe Europe? Maybe someone from NYC would know much better than me.





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MonicaJM2001 wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

ironcat wrote:

What exactly was Josh's bid for TB (assuming we are allowed to speak of Josh in Nick's thread)?  According to RS, Josh has always been viewed by TPTB as a potential Bachelor, even though Andi picked him (much like Roberto was).  I don't think Nick ever was, so he would need to get his media attention through other means.

Josh has come right out and said if he was single he would still consider being TB. He has said it numerous times and most recently on Canadian Interviews. Most recently he tweeted he was going to LA during the premier of the 'ette but the good thing is he would be seeing Elon. ChrisS Jake and others started their own campaign to become the next bachelor well before their season ended, and that's what I see with Josh. They all were in a position where viewers said they are old news, or they had enough of them. Absolutely nothing wrong with that if that's what they want. I've always been a supporter for the past contestants to take advantage of any opportunities.

My point is Nick has never used his so called fame for anything to keep his name in the media or keep his face in the media. He didn't start a new business, he has a good job, he didn't start selling anything, so to me this gig isn't about becoming famous. Due to the pre sleuthing that occurred, IMO he truly wanted to pursue that relationship with K. If she wasn't the 'tte, there's no way he'd be on this season. JMHO

Completely agree. His " :/ " about the time the Bachelorette was chosen in real time indicates he really didn't want to have to try dating via the show but was interested in K enough to go for it.

TA with all your post Monica

GuardianAngel wrote:

OnePromise wrote:Do we know that Nick wearing the gray sweater is from NYC?

I was wondering the other day the same thing and thought maybe it was when they met up for a date. The s/cap leads us to believe it's the first time she knows he's on the season. What is she doing in a broom closet?  I was looking at this pic and wondered if the garbage cans in NYC say "Litter". Also looking at the vehicles in the background, isn't it unusual not to see at lease one yellow cab? The vehicles look smaller in size, which would indicate to me maybe Europe? Maybe someone from NYC would know much better than me.





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I kind of figured immediately from the promo that the shot of Nick walking down the stairs where they sort of run into each other's arms is actually from a one on one date, when he's already on the show. I suspect the shot of Kaitlyn saying "omg it's Nick" in what looks like some dark room is her backstage, where they filmed the rap battle and she's probably reacting to seeing Nick in the audience. Because if I remember correctly, that blog post that was written by an extra who was at the filming for that group date, mentioned Nick, Ashley I and Sharleen all coming in and sitting at a table while the competition was going on.

So I'm wondering if it's going to be set up as Kaitlyn sees Nick in the audience and has a reaction and talks about the fact that they'd become friends and then after is the moment where they talk privately and he asks to come on the show. Now keeping in mind this is a "reality" show, so the cynic in me suspects she had a heads up but I can definitely see it being filmed like his showing up at the table with Sharleen and Ashley I is a complete shock to her.

GuardianAngel wrote:

OnePromise wrote:Do we know that Nick wearing the gray sweater is from NYC?

I was wondering the other day the same thing and thought maybe it was when they met up for a date. The s/cap leads us to believe it's the first time she knows he's on the season. What is she doing in a broom closet?  I was looking at this pic and wondered if the garbage cans in NYC say "Litter". Also looking at the vehicles in the background, isn't it unusual not to see at lease one yellow cab? The vehicles look smaller in size, which would indicate to me maybe Europe? Maybe someone from NYC would know much better than me.





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GH, this is probably from their 1-on-1 in Dublin. I saw pictures of several street bins that look similar to the one in the SC. I copied one:

Julychild from the SII strikes again. Good job

Great job onepromise, GA and JC   Wasn't it sleuthed that someone was in Ireland and saw Nick walking with Kaitlyn during the day?

I am now wondering if that IG post that Nick posted of him having a 5 o'clock drink and wearing the same blue denim shirt with dark pants is indeed the same time since it was sleuthed to be in Ireland since he is wearing those same clothes when he kisses Kaitlyn 

AllAboutLove wrote:These IG posts by and of Nick were posted and sleuthed awhile back but now that the Season Preview has been released, just wanted to take a gamble and see if there is any connection to these s/caps since Nick was active on SM while filming.

From this s/cap seen in the season teaser preview, he seems to be wearing the same denim shirt and dark/black jeans (minus the sweater)? His tan looks the same (does he get spray tanned generally?)


Bringing forward the IG post by Nick which he posted on IG on April 6 and which was sleuthed... also the purse may be Sharleen's if he was with them around this time?

momoftrips wrote:

Couldn't wait for 5 o'clock.

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In the IG photo, he's wearing a black fitbit. We need to find out if he's wearing the same thing in Ireland.

BTW, great job! So the gray sweater is from Ireland.

So..if the bar table picture is from Ireland, then the black purse could possibly Kaitlyn's or someone in production or a handler's?  Unless Elan's started carrying one!  

Awesome sleuthing yall!

AllAboutLove wrote:Great job onepromise, GA and JC   Wasn't it sleuthed that someone was in Ireland and saw Nick walking with Kaitlyn during the day?

I am now wondering if that IG post that Nick posted of him having a 5 o'clock drink and wearing the same blue denim shirt with dark pants is indeed the same time since it was sleuthed to be in Ireland since he is wearing those same clothes when he kisses Kaitlyn 

Yes, there was! Although I'm not 100% sure that the person actually spotted Kaitlyn and Nick because based on the filming schedule, it seemed like that was the day of the Christchurch date. But they did end up on a date in Dublin anyway, so it's kind of confusing. Plus, I have a feeling they are going to show it all out of order.

Also, IF Nick is the guy she slept with, they should both just hashtag #blameitonthealcohol based on the picture of Nick at the table .

emusha wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote: Thank you GA. Sorry about that. He's a trickster Nick is. Very likely he wore same things and he does like that denim shirt  a lot.

Just wondering if the kissing scene when Nick is wearing same? sweater and plaid shirt may have been filmed the same day as when Sharleen and her fiance were with Nick at Times Square?  

From what was sleuthed very early on, the end of March was when Rap date took place with other IG posts of Nick in hoody with Sharleen's fiance and Kaitlyn and Elan here.

So different outfits (hoody and sweater) but both times both outfits seen with Sharleen's hubby and with Kaitlyn.


ETA: Nick in possibly in same sweater and plaid shirt as seen in s/cap kissing Kaitlyn on Season Preview (no snow)

@machinelevine

is this chelsea's pier?? RS spoiled that nick talked to K about coming on the show in NYC -- I don't think this is the outfit he wore to the rap date though so didn't even think of that but nick came to nyc went to rap date with sharleen + andy... said hey to K that time...then LATER they had time to chat about him going on the show. the convo we had a pic of from RS in the dark with him in the denim jacket is from the same time/place when he was talking to elan. i wonder if they had him do a filmed convo with kaitlyn where he tells her "i don't want to be a villan" blah blah the next morning after she went back thought about it and decided he'd come on...i dunno i'm confused cos we don't know the exact itenary he had for filming etc. 

The top picture is not Chelsea Piers. The top picture is in the East Village. There was a sign behind Nick when he's saying his line about not being there to be the villain that said "AVE B", which is Avenue B in the East Village. But TPTB 100% arranged that talk, and they purposely did it really far away from the rest of the dates in an area of NYC which is very fun, but not easily accessible.

I also think their meeting has to have happened the morning of Jared's date. It couldn't have been the Rose Ceremony day morning because Nick/Andy/Sharleen were hanging out later that night in Times Square (per the bottom picture).

^ Do you think it could still be the same day? Since Nick is wearing the same clothes in that pic and s/cap?

So far we have 2 meetings with a s/cap and SM pics in NYC with Kaitlyn: outside where the rap event took place and then the East Village for burgundy sweater? (Nick in grey sweater in s/cap we now know is in Ireland).

And shown in season preview Nick at what may be a cocktail party pre-RC here per s/cap and Mets photo on wall?