Re: The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Britt Nilsson - Premier May 18-19 - Thread #2 *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

[emusha]

Just rewatched the previews.  How do we know she was not talking about Chris Soules to the guys?   It looked like Nick stalking off and waving her off in Ireland.  I personally think the splicing and dicing is to create suspense, where maybe there was very little.  Maybe she had eyes for Shawn or Chris or Ben or Nick the entire show.  Crying could be just letting nice guys go.

I think there's a very good possibility that she didn't tell the guys in that scene we saw based on the sc of her in that big ol brown couch vs. their yellow couches. the tone of voice she had also makes me think she was talking to Chris H...tricky splicing and dicing imho... be great if others can look closely and also share their thoughts

I also firmly maintain that RS' spoilers contradict
I see no way where she had sex with one of them told the rest then all F3 proceed to have sex with her during FD with the risk of it getting out...their egos/pride just ain't gonna go there...ask any guy... at least JMO cos she chose another guy before them...

[nutty1]

Sort of hijacking this thread to ask if someone can point me to the Ryan Seacrest interview. Thanks!

Do you all think RS got his spoiler about K having sex with Nick from watching the preview?

[kimberlyg]

Not to mention that Sean is not the role model for my family when it comes to pre-marital sex.  Pretending like you never did it before, and then calling yourself a virgin is kind of ridiculous.

I did not say it was nor should be, just that a lot of the successful TB couples were either the ones pictured with less chemistry then F2 (Ash/Ben/JP, Sean/Linday/Cat, etc.) and that looking at TB couples through the "chemistry" lense is often misleading.

IMO and OT, but Ash/JP were given a chemistry through the roof edit.  The rain kiss, the makeouts on the beach on the FD, after the PJ's date where she was talking about how JP was a better kisser than Bentley, etc.  Ash was my favorite Bachelorette before Kaitlyn, but even I thought she kind of lead Ben on, since it was obvious based on chemistry that she was all about JP.  And I thought Ashlee Frazier was given the "chemistry" edit on Sean's season, not Lindzi.  I also thought Chris/Des had more chemistry than Chris/Brooks, which is why I kept yelling her to stop chasing Brooks throughout her season...  but luckily she wised up with a little help from Brooks.

To get back on topic: I also think it's possible she's still dating one of the F2, but if she didn't, IMO, it's not because all of the guys left or because she slept with one too soon.

[Guest]

Sort of hijacking this thread to ask if someone can point me to the Ryan Seacrest interview. Thanks!

Do you all think RS got his spoiler about K having sex with Nick from watching the preview?

The interview is on youtube just type in ryan seacrest with the bachelorettes and you will get it

Yes with RS

[umngirl]

Not to mention that Sean is not the role model for my family when it comes to pre-marital sex.  Pretending like you never did it before, and then calling yourself a virgin is kind of ridiculous.

Too bad that's never what he did or said. He freely admitted he wasn't an actual virgin and was just choosing to be abstinent.

I'm curious about others opinions. If you don't think it's Nick who she had sex with before the FS, then who? Or do you think the whole thing is just made up?

[kimberlyg]

Not to mention that Sean is not the role model for my family when it comes to pre-marital sex.  Pretending like you never did it before, and then calling yourself a virgin is kind of ridiculous.

Too bad that's never what he did or said. He freely admitted he wasn't an actual virgin and was just choosing to be abstinent.

I'm curious about others opinions. If you don't think it's Nick who she had sex with before the FS, then who? Or do you think the whole thing is just made up?

FWIW, I agree with you and that it's not a fair characterization of Sean. Everyone person has the right to decide when he or she wants to sleep with someone, or is ready to sleep with someone. Just because you've had sex before doesn't mean you later can't choose or want to abstain until marriage, whether you use the label "Born Again Virgin" or whether it's just a personal choice. Just like Kaitlyn shouldn't get bashed for sex being important, Sean shouldn't get bashed for going in the opposite direction and choosing to wait (even though he had sex previously).

[jello1592]

I have so many thoughts about tonight so I hope this isn't too mumble jumble:

I don't think we should shame Kaitlyn or Nick. First off they are two consenting adults. If either had been disrespectful to the other Nick would either have left or have been kicked off.

I think Kaitlyn was confused between the "real world" & "bachelor bubble". Trying to put myself in Kaitlyn's shoes:

- Nick and Kaitlyn talk according to RS almost daily, not just texting and tweeting and such but actual facetiming for several months - so they would have had a solid foundation
- Nick and Kaitlyn potentially meet in New York before the show starts. I know RS says he has been told that they didn't meet prior but the fact that I believe it was sleuthed on here they were in New York the same weekend, at which point they were facetiming pretty frequently tells me they met up

Taking the Bachelorette out of the equation Nick and Kaitlyn sleep together after several months of establishing some sort of relationship/foundation... seems more natural. Now put all of this in the Bachelorette Bubble, Kaitlyn has not had these feelings for Nick for 2 weeks, but potentially for 3-4 months. She sleeps with him because well she obviously really cared about him and in a normal situation given their background would seem like a normal or natural progression. As soon as they "are done" she realized holy sh!t this isn't real life (like it had been for 3 months pre show) I am the Bachelorette and there are other guys here and I just completely disrespected them.


So she thought it was best to come clean because its Kaitlyn and she is who she is, she doesn't shy away from that.

The more that comes out the more I believe it was always Kaitlyn and Nick, her face, voice and infliction when she says "its Nick" says absolutely everything to me. I actually think that Chris H is right when he says that Kaitlyn is her worst enemy. I think that Kaitlyn may have a tendency to "shut down" or "build up walls" when she feels high stress or guilt.

Great post!!!

[Guest]

Sort of hijacking this thread to ask if someone can point me to the Ryan Seacrest interview. Thanks!

Do you all think RS got his spoiler about K having sex with Nick from watching the preview?

http://www.ryanseacrest.com/2015/05/18/kaitlyn-bristowe-britt-nilsson-talk-bachelorette-season-11-play-never-have-i-ever/

[Kashathediva]

I am still reading through this thread, so forgive me if this has been posted: 
So right now I am reading last night's epi and thinking...
This show is like Penn and Teller act. They make you focus on one thing, so you will miss what really happens to get to the final result.
 Best example Brooks, or just on a regular season the suspense between which of the F2 is chosen. Misdirection.
I am wondering if it was not Nick she got caught with. TPTB are making the audience think it was Nick. What if is wasn't?  The bottom line to the preview: K was caught doing something "questionable"(defined by TPTB). A man in room with her could be the sole thing. Because production caught her she is forced to bring this to the group attention.
As noted lots of splicing/dicing.

[Hotmomma]

I am trying to catch up too! I think someone went to Kaitlyn's room and they may have or not had sex..while that person is ther ( I wouldn't put pass production) to send another one there...so Kaityln got "caught" ( so to speak) And she tells the guys...she is upfront..and I think she also explains " why" she kept Nick! And the shots of some of they guys crying is when she let them go!.. This is so splice/diced!
Watch it isn't about "sex" at all!
As has been it's been said she was "Gold" for them since she is a free spirit! and seems to speak/ act when she is in the moment!

[Guest]

Anyone know of a preview on line to get SC's from? the abc site has one but as soon as you pause it has the bars in the middle of the screen. Dreamers has one on youtube but it's so dark and small

[Kashathediva]

I am trying to catch up too! I think someone went to Kaitlyn's room and they may have or not had sex..while that person is ther ( I wouldn't put pass production) to send another one there...so Kaityln got "caught" ( so to speak) And she tells the guys...she is upfront..and I think she also explains " why" she kept Nick! And the shots of some of they guys crying is when she let them go!.. This is so splice/diced!
Watch it isn't about "sex" at all!
As has been it's been said she was "Gold" for them since she is a free spirit! and seems to speak/ act when she is in the moment!

ITA with you HM.
I think the storyline for the season is provided as soon as we see preview Kaitlyn say: "I've kissed them all". 
Nothing more to add--slight of hand.
Now off to my mani/pedi.  No better way to sleuthe slight of hand. 

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