The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - F4 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

MiniDiva wrote:We know what Chris Harrison was up to today.   Wonder when the RC was and where?

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MOT said the guys were at the Radisson Blu St. Helen's Hotel Dublin both yesterday and today. I looked at both addy's on Google earth and they are very close together. IMO, the dates will revolve around Dublin for this week. I think that we should check into the Killarney area of Ireland for events, etc that were happening there the last week since that is where they were staying and wonder if other than Nick's date, they revolved around that area.

Here's a google earth pic of Dublin where the guys are staying for the second week and where Harrison was golfing.




Here's the google earth of Dublin and the hotel where the guys stayed at for the first week.




I am going to move this all into the twitter/media thread too for future reference.

Being this is the F4 sleuthing thread….

I know I made my guesses on the final 4, but it is tough, not "knowing" the guys yet.

I don't know why I feel so sure Nick & Shawn are 2 of the 4.  I picked Jared just because he is so hot, but I am wondering if he is too young. Of course, Andi picked Marcus. Something about Joe has me beginning to lean toward him as a viable F4 candidate.

There is still the problem of the "mystery man" in NY - he could be one of the missing three. We have 22 plus Nick identified. Should be three more.

nutty1 wrote:Being this is the F4 sleuthing thread….

I know I made my guesses on the final 4, but it is tough, not "knowing" the guys yet.

I don't know why I feel so sure Nick & Shawn are 2 of the 4.  I picked Jared just because he is so hot, but I am wondering if he is too young. Of course, Andi picked Marcus. Something about Joe has me beginning to lean toward him as a viable F4 candidate.

Haha, I wonder if that's why most of us picked him since there really isn't anything suggesting a strong chemistry between the two. I definitely could see Kaitlyn with someone younger though, just because she has a very young, fresh personality. She seemed so much younger than Whitney, even though they were the same age. She reminds me a lot of Jillian, who is with a younger guy!

Ben H. strikes me as even younger than Jared and Chris looks potentially young too, so she doesn't really have many older options left aside from Nick and Shawn. Isn't Joe younger than her too?

I believe Joe is going to 29 in May/June (he is a Gemini too).  So he is about the same age that Shawn is.  My feeling is that Nick, Sawn and Joe will be in the F4 but don't know the 4th guy.  Jared or Ben H. could make the 4th but there are a three guys that haven't been identified yet --wish we could know more about Chris and NYC guy.

CHO wrote:There is still the problem of the "mystery man" in NY - he could be one of the missing three.  We have 22 plus Nick identified.  Should be three more.

I'm still going with Chris as NY guy, but since we don't know his last name, we have no idea whether he still on the show or not. My guess is yes, he still there.

Age factor - isn't always an issue.  I think it depends on their mental age and how that aligns with Kaitlyn's views of life in general. She did tell Chris that words are more important to her than physical expression so I imagine as long as the guy is self aware and is able to articulate his feelings then age won't be a pro or con.  More importantly could be how their life experiences have shaped them.  K. has had a few long term relationships and at least one big heart break so she has a fair amount of relationship experience and likely a well defined idea of what she is looking for.  She may want her partner to be equally as definitive.

Job - because she was in relationships with 3 hockey players, I don't think it matters to her if someone changes their career path because the job of athlete has a timeline after which they must switch paths.  Shawn did quit his job to go on the show which a Bette could see as a red flag but perhaps not in this case. That would depend on how soon she sees herself marrying and having a family and how big a role current financial stability plays in her thinking. 

I do think she has some special insight given her parents are now remarried and she appears close to everyone.  The firecracker onsie scene with her mom shows them to very close.  I would think conversations have occurred between them (and she has observed) about why her parents divorced and why their current spouses are a better fit.  IMO this could be invaluable in guiding her.

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Hmmm -- read through Joe's tweets and have a bit of a diff perspective -- I'm not really feeling it for him and Kaitlyn...though I can see why she might take him far /not as far as F4 IMO (farm, quirky personality, looks, ready to settle down)

... Joe says several times that he loves to be the center of attention and he wants 20K followers etc. He gives me a vibe that he's def an alpha male and into the fame/tv land bit... though I do think he's 'ready' for a wife because he tweets about that quite a bit.
I don't see Kaitlyn gelling with his alpha-maleness so much though... CS had a very compassionate, patient and sweet side so if Kaitlyn was into that I imagine she'd look for that in her guy as well. Joe tweeted at some point that it's 'exhausting to pretend to listen to people problems all day and to act like you care' or something along those lines. Words also don't seem to be Joe's strong suit.

Nick is definitely good with words and Shawn seems a bit more Kaitlyn's speed based on his IG that shows a soft side.

Joe seems into bombshell types - he made a joke about the hocus pocus white witch being a hottie and he was also "ready to fall in love with" andi which seems a bit far fetched (not self-reflective) to me.

MiniDiva wrote:I believe Joe is going to 29 in May/June (he is a Gemini too).  So he is about the same age that Shawn is.  My feeling is that Nick, Sawn and Joe will be in the F4 but don't know the 4th guy.  Jared or Ben H. could make the 4th but there are a three guys that haven't been identified yet --wish we could know more about Chris and NYC guy.

Those 3 guys could've been eliminated on the first night though. I think 19 guys got roses on the first night and we know 16 of them for sure. Then there are Tony, Cory and Josh, who may or may not have gotten roses. We only know 3 who left on the first night for sure. I tend to think that we saw all of the guys potentially still left in the running in San Antonio, and only the tall bald man remains a mystery. He seemed to be gone by the RC anyway. I also think the NYC guy was probably Chris.

RS said that he is missing 2 of the guys' last names, but that they are not important to this season. So I'm guessing those 2 didn't make it past night 1.

Or they aren't important to RS since he does not have them.