The Bachelorette 11 - Screen Caps - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

kimberlyg wrote:My guess is that it was part of the M&G before the RC in San Antonio.  Jared (read, Production) set up the bed in one of the rooms with roses and made out with Kaitlyn there for their alone time.  Maybe after she gets back from that is when Ian accuses her of going on the show just to make out with guys on TV?

RC was at The Alamo, and not her hotel. Plus her jewelry is on the side table,which is why I feel it took place after she got back from the RC.

nd4reality, the sc with Kait and Jared on the bed happened the night of the RC at the Alamo in San Antonio. I'm thinking is was at some point during the cocktail party. The rose petals could have been arranged by Jarred (aka/producers), as a mini 1 on 1 time away from others. That was the same night Ian takes himself out and accuses her of just being there to kiss a bunch of guys. He tells her he doesn't question his intentions, he questions her intentions. Maybe he sees them coming out of the room together?

ETA: Kimberly I just read your post. We were thinking the exact same thing about that scene.

Kashathediva wrote:I think the naked guy running through the golf course is simply a red herring. I predict he will have nothing to do with the season and can simply be production guy having some off time fun who has been thrown into the mix to confuse us.
Reminds me of Bevin's red final ceremony pump being shown coming out of the limo on a much later season simply to throw people off.

Reminds me of the pregnancy test last season we never saw in an episode.  I agree it's probably thrown in there to add to the confusion over who early sex guy is- like he had to escape naked when production came knocking.  Betting the real story of early sex guy turns out to be VERY  different than what previews suggest.

The guy running naked in the golf course has the same body (shoulder muscles) and large vein running down his right arm as Shawn. If it is someone other than Shawn then they have the similar vein in the similar spot   In all likelihood, even if Shawn, we may not see this shown (or much of any of the s/caps from the preview).  

^^ Nice comparison to Shawn. That works for me to think it's him.

Probably either the guys joking around together while Kaitlyn's off on a date, or joking around with Kaitlyn herself. Either way, I think she'd love it - seems right up her alley of her sense of humor/free spiritedness and what she'd do herself.

Not exactly sure where to put this information summary.  But since I used mostly the screen caps to try to put it together, I will put it here.  

So I was having a hard time figuring out how there could be four dates the first week in Ireland putting the SC and RS spoilers together.  This is what I came up with:

Week Six: Dublin, Radisson Blu St. Helen's
Guys: 9 to 6
(SC of hotel) Shawn, Joe, Ben H., Tanner, Nick, Dr. Chris and JJ
(Other Dublin photos) Jared and Ben Z.
Dates:
1.) 1:1, Walking around Dublin, during day/evening - Nick (in regular clothes as seen by a fan), later walking around town (Nick in grey suit coat per photo posted by RS) then at Radisson Blu Hotel holding hands with K (SC with grey suitcoat), got rose, maybe night of sex per RS, unconfirmed otherwise
2.) Group Date, Guinness Brewery/storehouse - Ben H. (SC dancing with K), Dr. Chris, Shawn,Tanner and Ben Z.
3.) 2:1, Unknown location for picnic (per RS) - Joe & JJ (JJ home, Joe gets rose as seen in SC on boat with Kaitlyn)
4.) Christ Church Cathedral, Cranberries concert - Jared, got rose

Rose Ceremony: 9 to 6, Nick, Joe and Jared have roses already. JJ (went home previously), Tanner and Ben Z. go home leaving Shawn, Ben H, and Dr. Chris with roses.

Then I tried to put together the other known locations given our SC with a timeline.  Kind of rough, but I gave it a go.

Week Seven: Killarney, Randles Court Hotel
Guys:
(SC with Nick, Jared and Ben H appearing to talk to K about sex situation, but I think it's clipped together and not even the same conversation.)
Others are assumed: Shawn, Dr. Chris and Joe
Dates: Not sure of order, but two are located minutes from the hotel
1.)  Group Date, Muckross House, Killarney National Park, Co. Kerry - Shawn, Joe, Nick, Jared or Ben H. (SC indicate that Joe appears upset about something here, maybe went home ?)
2.) 1:1, Hag's Head, at cliffs of Moher, Co. Claire - Dr. Chris (SC - wide shots reveal shadowy figures at Hag's head but closer evaluation of SC with Dr. Chris without a coat and Kaitlyn with her hair up support), he may go home on the date per RS and (SC reveal a tearful Chris out by the sea)
3.) 1:1, Inisfallen Island/Abbey, Lough Leone, Co. Kerry - Ben H. Or Jared, although Jared appears to go home in a suit at the Rose ceremony so it was likely Ben H on the date who got the rose.

Rose Ceremony: 6 to 3, Likely Ben H already has a rose, Chris was possibly sent home already, maybe Joe went home too, Jared is sent home leaving Shawn and Nick to get roses that night.

Leaving only three main places that we sleuthed in SC for the overnight date locations as follows:

Week Eight: in no particular order
1.) Lough Erne Resort, near Enniskillen - Shawn (SC in bed and fireworks in boat with K)
2.) Lough Cutra Castle, Co. Gorf - Ben H. (SC of castle and horseback riding)
3.) Kennedy Park, Cork, Co. Cobh - Nick (SC in park kissing K, there is also the SC of Nick holding K wearing the same blue button shirt that he wore in earlier SC of the day at the park. He is also wearing a new ring on his finger that some here believe is a claddaugh ring indicating that he is taken or in a relationship.  That would be fitting as a sign to K of his commitment to her if he is indeed one of the F2.)

Rose Ceremony: Per RS Ben H. Goes home

And after that I think that preview runs pretty dry of spoilers, except for a few shots of K crying and looking forlorn over the balcony in Park City Utah at the Montage Deer Valley Resort.  "I just feel bad," she says tearfully.  Not sure if that means she feels bad about sending one or both guys packing.  I'm hoping that she ends up with Nick, but I would not be surprised if she doesn't pick either.  Sad, but maybe it was best for her (and them).  Time with tell.  

If anybody has thoughts or tweeks that is always welcome.  This is just thoughts.  I'm not RS.

Nice job OnePromise.

My personal opinion is Ben didn't get eliminated in Ireland but rather later.

I thought Hag's Head at Cliffs of Moher was Chris.

Also, is Innisfallen Island/Abbey the "ready or not, here I come" hide n seek date? The voice sounds too monotone to be Chris' voice IMO.

The dates at Muckross House, Inisfallen Island and Hag's Head are tough because they are all around water and the majority of SC are from near the water. The terrain is suprisingly difficult to distinguish between the three places. I put them in the order I did based on location map-wise. Both Muckross and Inisfallen are within miles of Killarney so I think they occurred in week 7 when the group was staying in Killarney. If Chris did go to Hag's head, then he stayed until week 8. Again, it's impossible to tell who is on the cliff with Kaitlyn, but if I were the producers I would save one of the most amazing sights in Ireland for the overnight 1:1 dates in week 8.
Plus I would also not reveal who got to stand with Kaitlyn on the cliff at this date. It might give away too much. The preview tries to make it look like Kaitlyn and Nick slept together and then she regretted the timing of it and sent him home. He is seriously lacking from the "romantic, happy ending" shots. I don't think they want us knowing who it is at the cliffs. Especially if it's Nick. He is not supposed to make it this far with his "scandalous" sex behavior. I also doubt that Kaitlyn would take Dr. Chris to the cliffs to dump him. Just my thoughts.

BlackHalo, it is also possible that it is not Dr. Chris on the Inisfallen Island/Abbey date, but the other options are Joe (his accent and the SC of him at Muckross House that week make it less likely), Shawn (doesn't look like him at all with dark hair from behind), Jared (he just had the romantic cathedral/cranberries date the past week) and Ben H. (Most likely other option). The question then is when did Dr. Chris have his crying scene? Good questions that I do not have the answer to. But good thoughts, BH.

OnePromise wrote:The dates at Muckross House, Inisfallen Island and Hag's Head are tough because they are all around water and the majority of SC are from near the water. The terrain is suprisingly difficult to distinguish between the three places.  I put them in the order I did based on location map-wise.  Both Muckross and Inisfallen are within miles of Killarney so I think they occurred in week 7 when the group was staying in Killarney.  If Chris did go to Hag's head, then he stayed until week 8.  Again, it's impossible to tell who is on the cliff with Kaitlyn, but if I were the producers I would save one of the most amazing sights in Ireland for the overnight 1:1 dates in week 8.  
Plus I would also not reveal who got to stand with Kaitlyn on the cliff at this date.  It might give away too much.  The preview tries to make it look like Kaitlyn and Nick slept together and then she regretted the timing of it and sent him home.  He is seriously lacking from the "romantic, happy ending" shots.  I don't think they want us knowing who it is at the cliffs.  Especially if it's Nick.  He is not supposed to make it this far with his "scandalous" sex behavior.  I also doubt that Kaitlyn would take Dr. Chris to the cliffs to dump him.  Just my thoughts.

Bringing this over from the Dr. C thread...

AllAboutLove wrote:This s/cap thinking is Dr. C with Kaitlyn?

It looks like her hair is up (since it is higher in the back) and he isn't wearing a jacket... so maybe when she is saying she doesn't know what is wrong with her and he says she is just scared? It looks like Kaitlyn has a coat on and not Chris? If one zooms in it looks like Chris is wearing a collared shirt with a sweater/cardigan over possibly?

I was assuming this location was the Hag Head. Any other idea where they could be?