Re: Bachelor 19 - Chris Soules - Screencaps Analysis Thread - #2 - *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

[umngirl]

I really think the limo we see driving down the road is empty and it's just filler footage. JMO.

[Litta123]

To be fair, this cap could be showing Becca going south because we don't see how the shadows are being made on the outside of the car to contradict it. As I mentioned the other day, the drive into family's driveway is south and the drive is lined with trees...so is this shot as Becca arrives at the FRC?

[Diana]

I really think the limo we see driving down the road is empty and it's just filler footage. JMO.

I think so too!

[lavenderred]

Kasha, I'm clueless then

I know. The only thing I can think of is the time change today messed with some of the past settings.
I posted that photo and the timestamp on it was 10:56 a.m. When I noted the time, I checked it with my own time on the east coast. I was an hour ahead on my link. So the timestamp was correct when I posted it.
Since then, the time has leaped forward in much of the USA exactly one hour. I can not account for what happened.
However, it is obvious that something is amiss with IG's settings.
It is as clear as day when I posted it what the timestamp was---10:56 am.
I did not falsify it. I don't know how to even begin to falsify it, nor am I saying anyone is saying that I am. Certainly none of the above.
I know when I click on the link now, that like others I get the 1:56 pm timestamp(which would be 12:56 pm CDST). So I am currently seeing the same timestamp as others.
Yet, this was not the way it was when posted.

I also screencapped the Herald Telegraph tweet with the picture of the limo and the time on it is 10:56 PM - 22 Nov 2014. When I don't sign into twitter the default timezone is PT, so add 2 hours to 10:56 AM PT and you get 12:56 PM CT.

Also, I saved the picture right after it was tweeted and before I screencapped the tweet and the time of the picture on my CT computer is "Created: ‎Saturday, ‎November ‎22, ‎2014, ‏‎1:03:21 PM".

Therefore I have no doubt that the limo was photographed in front of the Julien Hotel at 12:56 PM CT.

[Guest]

Ohhhh, thank you for solving the mystery Lav!

[Hotmomma]

Thanks Lav.

[MiniDiva]

The mystery solved - Twitter default is PCT! That makes sense. Thanks Lav!

[mindless]

This is the farm on Google maps. If you go there the longer route then you drive down E. Avenue and then turn left. The fields seem to match the shot of the car and there's even a telephone pole there midway between the intersection and the farm. Just saying.

[sfrank]

A -If the limo I found (from Majestic Limousine Service in Des Moines which had an interior that matched the interior of what we know to be Whitney's limo) AND it still looks like the picture on their website then Whitney's limo had grills.

B -If the limo they used when Jade was eliminated is the same limo that we see Becca riding in (and I think it is because there are some key details in the interior of both limos that match) then Becca's limo also had grills because Jade's limo can be proven to have grills.

The limo we see driving through the countryside doesn't have grills which means if A and B are both true then it's neither Becca's nor Whitney's but some other limo they photographed thinking no one would notice the subtle difference. We have no information to prove whether anyone was in this limo or if there was someone in it - who it was. I am convinced (from the shadows cast by that limo) that it was heading east at the time it was filmed.

IMHO we can't surmise much about what is or isn't "standard limo design" because limos aren't built on an assembly line - they are built by individual coach builders and each coach builder has their own designs. Interiors, upholstery and decor are not standardized across all coach builders. Also, those grills are not functional - they are trim pieces held on by double-sided tape and can be added or removed (you use dental floss to remove them) anytime.

IMHO Becca is in the same limo they used for Jade's elimination, and it has grills. And I think Whitney is in the limo from Majestic and it too has grills.

The Becca/Jade limo does NOT have grills...take a look:

- Becca is likely in the same limo as Jade's limo given the perfect match of the interior upholstery and it does not have grills:






But its most clear in Video


- Becca/Jade limo exterior likely the same as the aerial shot of the limo going FRC (see matching rims and silver side panels and no grills):



- Whitney's limo interior is a perfect match to limo model parked in front of hotel and that limo's exterior has window grilling is a perfect match to limo with Whitney's interior:



Lucas, here's the limo website shots from Majestic Limo of Des Moines, Iowa -- they have grills.

View them directly from the site as well: http://www.majesticlimo.com/10-passenger-black-limo

It matches the one outside the hotel...with grills

[Lucas15]

Therefore I have no doubt that the limo was photographed in front of the Julien Hotel at 12:56 PM CT.

I buy that. I get a timestamp of 12:56 PM CT also (if I set my Twitter timezone to Central time). Reading up on this it seems that Twitter tries to translate timestamps into your local time as set up in your twitter settings - so you can tell how long ago something was posted. However it wasn't affected by the 1 hour daylight time change when I reset my clock.

That the Herald Telegraph tweet says that no one exited the limo and it pulled away suggests to me that it wasn't there to drop anyone off - it was there to pick someone up and likely slightly early (it's bad for a limo to be late) but was told they weren't ready so it pulled away. We don't know when it came back for the pickup, but it probably did. If we buy that Whitney's limo had grills (and I do) and Becca's didn't (and after seeing what's been posted about Jade's limo but still believing Becca was in Jade's limo that the Jade/Becca limo didn't have grills) then the pickup was for Whitney and she didn't leave Dubuque before 1:00 PM - we don't know how much later though because no one reported the limo coming back later on.

That would put the earliest arrival time in Lamont sometime between 2:00 PM (minimum of 1 hour 6 minutes driving time - up to about 1 hour 17 minutes depending on which route was used) and 2:30 PM. Depending on how long the limo drove around the block this would be later. Anytime from 2:30 PM on would have her arriving to clear skies and direct sunlight based on the weather conditions reported for Lamont IA on that day and that matches the lighting in the shot of Whitney in the limo. This would leave 2 hours of daylight to shoot an FRC and do any reshoots that production wanted (they always seem to do some as has been reported by many who have actually been involved) and that seems to me to be a set of timing that would work. I don't think they would have wanted to do this much later though because they don't want to run out of daylight if they start in daylight.

In slightly more than 24 hours we're all going to be seeing these mysteries resolved and we won't have to be looking at twitter time stamps and limo grills and upholstery until next season and I don't know about you all but I think that's going to be a welcome vacation for me!

[Aunties_Love]

If you are asking me, I am saying that Becca's doesnt' have the grills but Whit's does according to the sleuthed out info of the Lincoln Towncar designs.  I am saying that Becca's car is different and thus looks more like the one that we see driving on the highway versus the one that is parked outside the hotel.  That one has the grills/handholds on it.

OMG. I'm going crazy with these limos.
I think the car Lucas found with the matching stereo console did not have grills.

A -If the limo I found (from Majestic Limousine Service in Des Moines which had an interior that matched the interior of what we know to be Whitney's limo) AND it still looks like the picture on their website then Whitney's limo had grills.

B -If the limo they used when Jade was eliminated is the same limo that we see Becca riding in (and I think it is because there are some key details in the interior of both limos that match) then Becca's limo also had grills because Jade's limo can be proven to have grills.

The limo we see driving through the countryside doesn't have grills which means if A and B are both true then it's neither Becca's nor Whitney's but some other limo they photographed thinking no one would notice the subtle difference. We have no information to prove whether anyone was in this limo or if there was someone in it - who it was. I am convinced (from the shadows cast by that limo) that it was heading east at the time it was filmed.

IMHO we can't surmise much about what is or isn't "standard limo design" because limos aren't built on an assembly line - they are built by individual coach builders and each coach builder has their own designs. Interiors, upholstery and decor are not standardized across all coach builders. Also, those grills are not functional - they are trim pieces held on by double-sided tape and can be added or removed (you use dental floss to remove them) anytime.

IMHO Becca is in the same limo they used for Jade's elimination, and it has grills. And I think Whitney is in the limo from Majestic and it too has grills.

Ok, the limo that was used for Jade's elimination DIDN'T have grills. It is the outdoor lights. When the door is opened you can still see those lights, but they are now on the inside of the limo.

Now, how do we reconcile what Mindless found too? IMO, she's got it down as to who was in the limos. Becca's didn't have the grill's as Jade didn't have the grils, therefore, the limo waiting outside of the hotel is for Whit who rode in the limo that had the grills. All IMO going by how I read things and how mindless did show it all.

[Aunties_Love]

I really think the limo we see driving down the road is empty and it's just filler footage. JMO.

I am hesitant to go with that as the outside of that limo driving down the road matches the outside of Becca's limo. IMO.

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