Bachelor 19 - Whitney Bischoff - Discussion #3

stuckinsc wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:
Maybe but RS was asked if they will make it.  He said no.  When asked if it was an opinion or from info.  He said both.  Who knows, but at least the outcome, according to RS, will not change as far as what happened on the show.  Of course, he said the same thing about Jason's season because the outcome never changed as far as what played out on out TV.    Hehe.  

This is my favorite RS wrong of all.  He swore up down and sideways that Jason was forced to pick Melissa so that he could dump her and then have Molly. They wanted Melissa to be their perfect bachelorette.  I remember reading this. I only watched Jason's finale because of him and his rants about what would happen.  

Jason and Molly have both refuted this. Supporting it would have been better for Molly, made her the real F1, when Jason has said Melissa was his F1 and he knew.

Just the beginning of RS being a jerk with a big head.

BTW, because of this stupidity I could Jason as one of his wrongs, along with Ali, Brad 2.0, and Des.  

Maybe Jason &  Molly just chose to keep what really went down close to the vest so to speak.  I heard back then from someone (that I consider a reliable source ) that that ending was planned, Melissa's father got wind of it and that's why her family wasen't part of her HTD. They wanted nothing to do with the  show because they knew something was going down.  They did support her on DWTS though.

Jolena wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:
Maybe but RS was asked if they will make it.  He said no.  When asked if it was an opinion or from info.  He said both.  Who knows, but at least the outcome, according to RS, will not change as far as what happened on the show.  Of course, he said the same thing about Jason's season because the outcome never changed as far as what played out on out TV.    Hehe.  

This is my favorite RS wrong of all.  He swore up down and sideways that Jason was forced to pick Melissa so that he could dump her and then have Molly. They wanted Melissa to be their perfect bachelorette.  I remember reading this. I only watched Jason's finale because of him and his rants about what would happen.  

Jason and Molly have both refuted this. Supporting it would have been better for Molly, made her the real F1, when Jason has said Melissa was his F1 and he knew.

Just the beginning of RS being a jerk with a big head.

BTW, because of this stupidity I could Jason as one of his wrongs, along with Ali, Brad 2.0, and Des.  

Maybe Jason &  Molly just chose to keep what really went down close to the vest so to speak.  I heard back then from someone (that I consider a reliable source ) that that ending was planned, Melissa's father got wind of it and that's why her family wasen't part of her HTD. They wanted nothing to do with the  show because they knew something was going down.  They did support her on DWTS though.

The ending was NOT planned. I actual live close to melissa and I will send you a PM.. No need to rehash in the Whitney thread.

nutty1 wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

onlyme wrote:

Not sure if this has come up...
I didn't know anything about Becca's ggrandmother dying until last week when I started reading all the posts here.  I don't think RS has mentioned it, I would remember I think.  Could this be the info he has?  He didn't want to mention it earlier.  I can imagine there would have been tons of speculation and he doesn't want to deal with it.

It's possible, but RS said the info he has is part of the reason he doesn't think Chris and Whitney will last.

I listen to his videocast tonight and didn't get that impression at all.

I think Diana emailed RS and asked and he answered her back. Diana...can you confirm??? GA and I were because he said the info he has on a scale of 1-10 is a 1, but it is part of the reason he doesn't think Chris and Whitney will make it.

^^ It could be something as simple as "Chris slept with Kaitlyn" which is a 1 - but show that he was acting cavalierly. I'm sure the reason he doesn't think Chris and Whitney will make it is because of his partying background and this would "feed" into it.

I think way back when, RS had said Chris and Whitney wouldn't make it and someone asked him if that was a hunch or something he knew and he said both.
As far as what he's going to announce, he said several times tonight it was no big deal and the reason he didn't mention it early was because he'd get so many questions.

Eh. I am still hopeful.

Diana wrote:Eh. I am still hopeful.

As you should be. Wish the happy couple well and let them take it to the real world and hope for the best. :cutesmile!:

soccermom333 wrote:

Diana wrote:Eh. I am still hopeful.

As you should be.  Wish the happy couple well and let them take it to the real world and hope for the best. :cutesmile!:  

Exactly :Nod:

stuckinsc wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:
Maybe but RS was asked if they will make it.  He said no.  When asked if it was an opinion or from info.  He said both.  Who knows, but at least the outcome, according to RS, will not change as far as what happened on the show.  Of course, he said the same thing about Jason's season because the outcome never changed as far as what played out on out TV.    Hehe.  

This is my favorite RS wrong of all.  He swore up down and sideways that Jason was forced to pick Melissa so that he could dump her and then have Molly. They wanted Melissa to be their perfect bachelorette.  I remember reading this. I only watched Jason's finale because of him and his rants about what would happen.  

Jason and Molly have both refuted this. Supporting it would have been better for Molly, made her the real F1, when Jason has said Melissa was his F1 and he knew.

Just the beginning of RS being a jerk with a big head.

BTW, because of this stupidity I could Jason as one of his wrongs, along with Ali, Brad 2.0, and Des.  

He also said that he had PROOF that Jason had a top-secret meeting with Fleiss and another ABC executive, where they had planned the details of the switch and Jason was paid to go along with the plan. And, that Jason was put into contact with Molly immediately after filming ended, told her about the secret plan, and had been seeing her the whole time on the side deceiving Melissa who was head-over-heels in love with (not true, as Melissa wrote in her book). I will give him credit for the fact that he admitted he was wrong and gave a public apology to them on his site and I understand that's when he starting his "spoiling career" so he wasn't as savvy about checking up on his sources. But, they both got a LOT of hate (from both Melissa and the public) and a lot of it came because people believed RS. I wish he had learned his lesson, but he still says he is 100% certain about things that he is not and he still tries to destroy certain contestants/leads' reputations.

CP, I agree, he is about 60% successful, not bad and I think he gets friends and family to help. But he has been really wrong four times, though without correction only once. The last minute correction or apology to me doesn't change that he was wrong 40% of the time and a real jerk the whole way through.

He has been off his game his season with a lot of little things wrong. I can see a Becca had to leave early for funeral, so dressed up Whitney is last to FRC, he gets word of it. We know NL was there and there is a ring, so he says engagement and Whitney and Cannonball, he is wrong, wrong, wrong. To help him stay wrong just like Des we plant false spoilers at his favorite trolling site, lots of extra hints to this board this week, kinda of like Love_Me got with Des.

I won't cry or be sad if Whit is F1, but it is not the easy peasy lock down that a lot of people believe IMO.

chasingpavements wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:
Maybe but RS was asked if they will make it.  He said no.  When asked if it was an opinion or from info.  He said both.  Who knows, but at least the outcome, according to RS, will not change as far as what happened on the show.  Of course, he said the same thing about Jason's season because the outcome never changed as far as what played out on out TV.    Hehe.  

This is my favorite RS wrong of all.  He swore up down and sideways that Jason was forced to pick Melissa so that he could dump her and then have Molly. They wanted Melissa to be their perfect bachelorette.  I remember reading this. I only watched Jason's finale because of him and his rants about what would happen.  

Jason and Molly have both refuted this. Supporting it would have been better for Molly, made her the real F1, when Jason has said Melissa was his F1 and he knew.

Just the beginning of RS being a jerk with a big head.

BTW, because of this stupidity I could Jason as one of his wrongs, along with Ali, Brad 2.0, and Des.  

He also said that he had PROOF that Jason had a top-secret meeting with Fleiss and another ABC executive, where they had planned the details of the switch and Jason was paid to go along with the plan. And, that Jason was put into contact with Molly immediately after filming ended, told her about the secret plan, and had been seeing her the whole time on the side deceiving Melissa who was head-over-heels in love with (not true, as Melissa wrote in her book). I will give him credit for the fact that he admitted he was wrong and gave a public apology to them on his site and I understand that's when he starting his "spoiling career" so he wasn't as savvy about checking up on his sources. But, they both got a LOT of hate (from both Melissa and the public) and a lot of it came because people believed RS. I wish he had learned his lesson, but he still says he is 100% certain about things that he is not and he still tries to destroy certain contestants/leads' reputations.

That is one of the reasons I will never go to his site. It's great that RS gets the scoop and kudos if he is right. If he would just leave it at that and keep his personal BS out of it, he would have integrity. But he has the power with his following to completely destroy someone with his words. Words that could and have been completely wrong. Tell me how that is any different than the mean girl/cyber bullying that goes on? Oh yeah, we are not in junior high or high school. He does it with adults.

So tell me why he has to reveal his 1 on a scale of 1-10? Is it part of his scoop on the outcome of the show? No. It's to hurt Whitney and Chris and further his reasons for saying they won't make it in the real world. Disgusting.

Per Beelever
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So tell me why he has to reveal his 1 on a scale of 1-10? Is it part of his scoop on the outcome of the show? No. It's to hurt Whitney and Chris and further his reasons for saying they won't make it in the real world. Disgusting.

JMO, I think initially he thought he had "something".  He chose to make it his own kaboom and waited for maximum, I told you so effect. It turned out being a pffft.