Bachelor 19 - Chris Soules - Episode 9 - *Spoilers & Sleuthing* -

Jeepers wrote:Ooo please don't leave out Kaitlyns comments as well...
Thanx

Where is the interview with Kaitlyn where she gives her assessment of Whitney and Becca? She also explains her feelings about going home. I saw it yesterday but can't find it. So many threads, so little time.

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stuckinsc wrote:Me three! I was so excited for their 1:1 date in episode three. I was going to get to fall in love with the couple.  Instead I was just annoyed that it was all about Whitney proving how perfect she was for Chris.  How about actually getting to know the man, just a little bit.  He was the least shown lead ever from the season before, how do you already know that he is worth you?  And it just got worse and worse.  By the end of the date, I was cringing.  I think I like my quiet too much.  Life with Whitney would be lived with earplugs for me.

Haha, same here! It kind of reminds me of Vaughn from Married at First Sight saying he wants someone bubbly and then being driven up the wall by Monet's constant chatter. I'm not convinced Chris can handle bubbly any better, since he seems like an introvert and said himself that he likes to be at home by himself a lot. I can just picture Whitney constantly trying to drag him out of the house to do whatever she's set her mind in and it ain't pretty.

Me three on the bolded.  She's exhausting to listen to.

I'm SO relieved to see that I'm not the only one who has a hard time dealing with her chatter! I know Whitney has lots of fans here and I have no reason to doubt that she's a nice girl, but the squeaky tone of her voice is tough for me to listen to for extended periods of time.

I also agree that she seems to have fallen for Chris during Des' season and came into this show with a determination to show Chris that she is the one for him. If this is the case, and she turns out to be the F1, that causes me to worry about the viability of a strong relationship in the real world.

cindebugg wrote:I agree Kasha.  Whitney could be driving in and out during her off time.  It wouldn't be too hard to hide out on that big farm.

Becca would have to fly in.  Have there been any airport sightings of Becca?

No, but Chris has been in LA A LOT, in fact, I think he's been there more than Iowa...LOL. Since Becca is in San Diego, she can easily drive to see him.

Eviebloom wrote:Chris H. Said in a recent blog that Whitney and Chris have unbelievable chemistry. He also said that it is obvious that they deeply care for each other.   But that is one of the few times recently much has been said about her.  I think they are really messing with the edit and creating that angst with the fans.

Becca has great qualities too, but why in the world would she want Chris?  His lifestyle is different than hers and lifestyle choices.  Becca and Chris seem like their relationship would be a lot of work and drama.  

I also think that Becca would have gone home if the production had not encouraged that "talk" before the rose ceremony.  Chris said he was sure of one rose., which  was Whitney. Production was seeing that kaitlyn would be a good fit for bachelorette and needed her to leave at F3.  

I hope there is a wonderful love story for Chris and Whitney.  I certainly don't know, but I think Chris and Becca will grow tired of this drama and uncertainty. I do not think the love is as strong for them.  Maybe the attraction is there but not deep enough. The bachelor production has made it work for making a tense show though.  I think Chris better give Whitney some TLC , I think if she feels that there is not mutuL love, she will not think he is a good fit for her either.  But we will see.  Des and Chris Sig. had similar obstacles and worked through them successfully.

I know we take these blogs with a grain of salt, but if we are comparing quotes in blogs, this is what CH said.

Yahoo CH Blog

I really think it came down to the fact that Chris just wants there to be something serious with Becca and he's willing to risk everything to find out if there is. I could tell when I talked to Chris that he was torn, but deep down I knew he wasn't. He was just having trouble justifying his decision. ...snipped..... Chris couldn't articulate what he was feeling but I could see he just wasn't prepared to say goodbye to Becca — he just wants it to work with her so bad.

I don't understand why Chris would want it to work so bad with Becca and is willing to risk everything to find out if Whitney is a shoe in F1. As far as your bold re production, Jillian took a lot of flak for this when CH took her aside and she kept Ed. It depends on who your favourite is, and who gets the blame for CH's suggestion to take a contestant aside.

Chris' lifestyle is different than anyone who doesn't live in Arlington. Both Whitney and Becca work, they both live in big cities, I'm not so sure that either one is better or worse than the other. I'm trying to look at both sides of the coin.

I enjoy it when there's good speculation for both the F1/F2!

Lievta wrote:***snipped***

I'm SO relieved to see that I'm not the only one who has a hard time dealing with her chatter! I know Whitney has lots of fans here and I have no reason to doubt that she's a nice girl, but the squeaky tone of her voice is tough for me to listen to for extended periods of time.

I also agree that she seems to have fallen for Chris during Des' season and came into this show with a determination to show Chris that she is the one for him. If this is the case, and she turns out to be the F1, that causes me to worry about the viability of a strong relationship in the real world.

*Andi's season?

To your point about falling for Chris before the season began, it reminded me of something I saw on the evening portion of their FD. When Chris describes Arlington, he says it has a population of 500. As Whitney is responding to his concerns, she says it has a population of 400. Why would she switch his number? It bothered me...so I looked it up. (Arlington Pop) In 2013, the population was 416. Whitney's number is actually closer than Chris's. Clearly, she had been doing her homework.

To see the actual conversation, view this clip. It takes place within the first minute, 12 seconds.

I too don't understand why it is assumed that Whit's lifestyle is so much better for him than Becca's. We now know that Whitney grew up in one of the two largest cities in Kentucky, went to school in the other largest city in Kentucky. Then she moved to Charleston, SC. Not huge, but in now way a small town at all. Then she moved to Chicago to be near her sister and stayed even after her sister left.

Becca is from a smaller area of LA, moved to CA to be near her sister and stayed.

So the difference to me, is that Becca's sister was in CA and Whitney's in Chicago. Yes, Chicago is colder, but otherwise, where is this supposed better fit.

If anything Whitney and Becca were very similar in that lifestyle.

Whitney is a nurse and Becca is a chiropractor assistant. Becca isn't trained as much, but both work in healthcare and helping people.

So where is this huge difference that everyone talks about?

The fact that Whitney talks constantly about wanting to be married and have babies like yesterday? It isn't that Becca has said she doesn't want to have children. To me, she is just making sure the relationship is actually right before rushing into talking about planning a wedding and having kids. If anything to me, Becca's approach seems more mature. I feel like Chris is the "groom" that Whitney has decided to plug into her prepared story. I have yet to see where Whitney has taken the time to consider for a second if Chris is even the man she thought he is and if he is right for Her. To me her approach to this season has been way more immature. She doesn't seem to care who Chris really is, just that they can plug themselves into a happy couple getting married quickly and having babies. Honestly, for all the talk of her being there for Chris, she took no time to actually get to know him for real. Just decided it was right from the start. Great for the bubble, rarely successful in real life.

This as always is JMO.

^I think growing up and living in the Midwest (like Whitney has) makes it easier to transition. Adjusting to winter in the Midwest can be brutal. I'm not sure a Southerner turned Californian knows exactly what it's like.

As for their jobs, Whitney has a career whereas Becca has a job. She's basically an office assistant. Not saying there is anything wrong with that, but does she have any career ambition? I don't know.

I think Whitney is at the stage in her life where she is ready for marriage and babies. Becca seems to very slowly be heading in that direction. I can't see her ready for all that in the next few years.

To someone else's point, many of the contestant decide to go on a certain season because they like the lead from the previous season and want to meet them. Whitney is no different. I could list quite a few who have done that. Heck, one of the couples is even married now because she told the producers no until she found out he was The Bachelor. It happens. So I think Whitney liked the Chris she saw last season and wanted to get to know him, which the editors have conveniently forgot to show us other than Whitney meeting his friends.

stuckinsc wrote:**snipped**
Becca is from a smaller area of LA, moved to CA to be near her sister and stayed.  
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So where is this huge difference that everyone talks about?
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Great for the bubble, rarely successful in real life.

Becca is from Shreveport, (third largest city in the state) Louisiana (I google it), moved to San Diego, CA ... currently spending an awful lot of time in LA
and I share your opinion Stuck

umngirl wrote:^I think growing up and living in the Midwest (like Whitney has) makes it easier to transition. Adjusting to winter in the Midwest can be brutal. I'm not sure a Southerner turned Californian knows exactly what it's like.

As for their jobs, Whitney has a career whereas Becca has a job. She's basically an office assistant. Not saying there is anything wrong with that, but does she have any career ambition? I don't know.

I think Whitney is at the stage in her life where she is ready for marriage and babies. Becca seems to very slowly be heading in that direction. I can't see her ready for all that in the next few years.

To someone else's point, many of the contestant decide to go on a certain season because they like the lead from the previous season and want to meet them. Whitney is no different. I could list quite a few who have done that. Heck, one of the couples is even married now because she told the producers no until she found out he was The Bachelor. It happens. So I think Whitney liked the Chris she saw last season and wanted to get to know him, which the editors have conveniently forgot to show us other than Whitney meeting his friends.

I agree with all that you stated,and especially the bolded. From what i have seen, I think Whitney developed a "crush" on Chris during Andi's season, saw he had traits that match what she wants in a husband, and go-getter that she is, took her shot and went on the show. They haven't bothered to show us Whitney asking Chris about himself, to find out if in person, she is still attracted to him, and working to get to know him better,because that's not part of the storyboard. Doesn't mean those conversations didn't happen. I firmly believe that if Whitney found the Chris in person was not the Chris she saw on TV, as she so adorably said, she would have "excused herself."

umngirl wrote:***snipped***
So I think Whitney liked the Chris she saw last season and wanted to get to know him, which the editors have conveniently forgot to show us other than Whitney meeting his friends.

I miss that part. I wonder why?

I agree with you, stuckinsc. I really don't see the huge difference in lifestyle between the two ladies, except for the location. Becca may live in California right now, but I don't think it's something she's set on. By the time her sister left San Diego, she had probably formed close friendships there and had a job, so it made sense to stay and see where it leads. From what I gather from her social media she's living with her best friend. She also doesn't seem like a big party girl. At least she spends more time tweeting about doughnuts and Dr Pepper than anything beach/party related. Yeah, there may less opportunities to acquire fast food in Arlington, but I think she'd be grateful for that.

Point is, I don't see any proof of her being in love with the So Cal lifestyle in particular. That doesn't mean she doesn't have a life there, a life that's just as important to her as Whitney's is to Whitney, even if we don't hear her go on about her job all the time. I find it very realistic that she's not willing to promise to drop it all at this point, when she's not even in love yet. That doesn't mean she wouldn't if it came down to them getting married. I see her being much happier with a quiet life than energetic Whitney. She also said she wants 5 kids, maybe not right this second, but eventually. I think that says something about her priorities as well. I'm not exactly sure why Chris said she wanted an ambitious career woman, if he's looking for a homemaker. I would think Becca, who seems happy just having a job, not a career, would be happier in a place where you gotta make do with what's available. Why would you want to drag someone away from a great career over choosing someone who's happy just working for a living?

KB_Mom wrote:***snipped***
I firmly believe that if Whitney found the Chris in person was not the Chris she saw on TV, as she so adorably said, she would have "excused herself."  

I would politely disagree with you. I think she arrived to TB with a crush ... and through those kind of rose-colored glasses it's not always easy to see the "real" picture. Just remember Nick, no matter how smart he was/is, no matter his approach with scepticism, no matter how much he questioned and analyzed ... he still got caught up in a "bubble" ... and only at the end saw the real Andi... and realized they are incompatible.