Bachelor 19 - Chris Soules - Episode 9 - *Spoilers & Sleuthing* -

I've noticed that Becca is the only one he sometimes manages to have an actual conversation with. I swear he didn't say more than a dozen words on either of the other dates, except when telling Whitney about Arlington. But it's not really because the women don't shut up, it's just that he seems to have nothing to say. Kaitlyn or Whitney would go on and on and when they stopped, Chris would just stare at them for a minute and maybe utter a word or two that didn't even form a full sentence. You can tell he mostly stays at home by himself, you really can.

mindless wrote:I've noticed that Becca is the only one he sometimes manages to have an actual conversation with. I swear he didn't say more than a dozen words on either of the other dates, except when telling Whitney about Arlington. But it's not really because the women don't shut up, it's just that he seems to have nothing to say. Kaitlyn or Whitney would go on and on and when they stopped, Chris would just stare at them for a minute and maybe utter a word or two that didn't even form a full sentence. You can tell he mostly stays at home by himself, you really can.

soccermom333 wrote:The one thing that bothers me about Chris and this season is it seems like he only wants to pick the woman most likely to marry him and pop out babies, not pick the one he loves the most.  I know he loves Arlington, and the girls all knew this but my gosh, it is like Chris is not willing to compromise on anything!  

At least looks that way now.  

IDK. When you are the lead there are quite a few things you don't nor should you have to compromise. If your job distinctly has you in one place for a certain reason--very little wiggle room. Andy Baldwin and Brad Womack come to mind. 
If you are at a certain place in life that is where you are at. If that is past serial dating and wanting a long term, lasting relationship, that is where you are at. 
The women came on the show knowing he was the lead. They knew he was going to be staying close to the farm. The guy is 33 yrs old, not 26. 
I don't know if he wants imminent marriage and/or family or if this is lip service via show and edit. That remains to be seen.

Of course all the girls are going to have emotions all over the place.  Whitney has had a variety of faces:  very concerned, happy, sad mad.  Those are all normal emotions.  I have seen the same in Becca. She often seems to have an upset or concerned expression on her face too.   This is the first time I have ever noticed a couple  arguing like I saw Becca and Chris.  Their relationship seems stressful.  However, the point of the show is to let real feelings surface as you are making eliminations along the way.  It does make the lead fall in "love" with multiple people at the same time.  Then I ask myself why I am watching and invested in the show this year.  It is all just sort of wrong!  Also virginity is of value, I think there should be no hanky panky in the FS!  Just my view..

mindless wrote:I also think that his agonising just proves he's really into Becca. If he wasn't then he would've just sent her home. And if he was already sure about Whitney, then Becca would have been the easy choice to take to F2, since she wouldn't be as heartbroken. No, he was terrified because he knows that he'll just keep falling even harder for Becca and then she might break his heart. He thought about letting her go so he could focus on the other two who say they're sure without her being there to distract him, but he just couldn't. Even when he was talking to CH about her he said that he thinks Becca will get there eventually, but "maybe that's wishful thinking". His face when he said that said it all to me. He really wishes she would fall in love so he could pick her without hesitation.

Becca looked really cute with her hair in a bun BTW. Whitney on the other hand looked awful at the rose ceremony. She looked like the other girls' mother.  :hidingchair

^^ Yep. I didn't see editing tricks trying to make Becca a serious contender. Seen that many seasons but rarely works, usually it's pretty obvious who F1 is by FDs. What I saw was Chris obviously more engaged, invested and alive with Becca last night. He seemed asleep on the other 2 dates, at best. I do think he's in a tough spot - woman who is a logical choice with a good chance for success on paper vs a woman his heart has been really captured by but is a risk.

Kashathediva wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:The one thing that bothers me about Chris and this season is it seems like he only wants to pick the woman most likely to marry him and pop out babies, not pick the one he loves the most.  I know he loves Arlington, and the girls all knew this but my gosh, it is like Chris is not willing to compromise on anything!  

At least looks that way now.  

IDK. When you are the lead there are quite a few things you don't nor should you have to compromise. If your job distinctly has you in one place for a certain reason--very little wiggle room. Andy Baldwin and Brad Womack come to mind. 
If you are at a certain place in life that is where you are at. If that is past serial dating and wanting a long term, lasting relationship, that is where you are at. 
The women came on the show knowing he was the lead. They knew he was going to be staying close to the farm. The guy is 33 yrs old, not 26. 
I don't know if he wants imminent marriage and/or family or if this is lip service via show and edit. That remains to be seen.

I think love is a feeling and a choice.  I believe like Sean Lowe, that I am not sure I believe in a soul mate.  I think the whole deep love and soul mate happens over time as you live and experience life together.  It is very possible that Chris could love both girls, but could really only live the life he wants to live with one, depending on the compromising he wants to do.  I know this does not sound romantic but a lot of a happy life and a life filled with love is a choice.

The editing for me can be as simple as only showing viewers a few segments of Chris zoned out on the date with Whit and a few clips of Becca and Chris really engaging and having good conversations.

Just looking at the one on ones he's had with Whit where he's staring into her eyes listening so intently in natural conversation, I do find it suspect that they had very little to show last night. It was odd and seemed to purposely spotlight Becca at the last minute, too late IMO. Makes me wonder why?

To be fair the boat ride wasn't exactly relaxing with producers seasick and puking over the side of the boat. We should also remember that we're seeing a tiny bit of each of their dates and the editing is done to achieve a goal.

Kashathediva wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:The one thing that bothers me about Chris and this season is it seems like he only wants to pick the woman most likely to marry him and pop out babies, not pick the one he loves the most.  I know he loves Arlington, and the girls all knew this but my gosh, it is like Chris is not willing to compromise on anything!  

At least looks that way now.  

IDK. When you are the lead there are quite a few things you don't nor should you have to compromise. If your job distinctly has you in one place for a certain reason--very little wiggle room. Andy Baldwin and Brad Womack come to mind. 
If you are at a certain place in life that is where you are at. If that is past serial dating and wanting a long term, lasting relationship, that is where you are at. 
The women came on the show knowing he was the lead. They knew he was going to be staying close to the farm. The guy is 33 yrs old, not 26. 
I don't know if he wants imminent marriage and/or family or if this is lip service via show and edit. That remains to be seen.

True!! Gosh, I believe him when he says these things especially since he is 33 years old and has said he wants a few kids.

bleuberry wrote:The editing for me can be as simple as only showing viewers a few segments of Chris zoned out on the date with Whit and a few clips of Becca and Chris really engaging and having good conversations.

Just looking at the one on ones he's had with Whit where he's staring into her eyes listening so intently in natural conversation , I do find it suspect that they had very little to show last night. It was odd and seemed to purposely spotlight Becca at the last minute, too late IMO. Makes me wonder why?

I don't think it's a last minute thing though. I've been seeing it since their first date several episodes ago. He just lights up around Becca every time. With Whitney he's sometimes engaged, but often just following her lead. JMO.

albean99 wrote:To be fair the boat ride wasn't exactly relaxing with producers seasick and puking over the side of the boat. We should also remember that we're seeing a tiny bit of each of their dates and the editing is done to achieve a goal.

Yep, and thought it was interesting that both Chris H and Chris S made a point about talking about the rocky boat ride in their blogs. I thought that their chemistry was off on the boat too but then seemed to swing back to normal during their intense conversation about Whitney relocating during FS portion.

I saw some "disconnect" coming from Chris last night during his time with Whitney. I think he is truly concerned that if she gives up her job and comes to live in Arlington, or close by, she will become discontent and high tail it back to Chicago. I think that scenario is weighing heavily on his mind, even if she is the "right" one on paper, so to speak.

Becca, being a bit quieter, is more in tune with the way Chris has been presented to us. I don't think she is ready either to give up her life in San Diego, and she does not seem as "all in" and determined as Whitney.