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Post by StacyNor Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:19 pm

Ash2214 wrote:I don't think that things necessarily had to have been really bad. They spent just about the last two weeks of their relationship traveling with both families. Since neither of them posted much about the trip until they got to KC, I would assume that they very easily could have not done all that traveling together if they didn't want to. Don't get me wrong, I would say the whole month of December they pretty much knew it was going to be over, but I don't think they hated each other or that things were really bad that they couldn't stand the other person. They apparently had no issue going shopping together, going to the gym together or out to dinner with Andi's parents just a day or two before they left for LA. According to tweets a poster here found they were apparently snuggling on the plane.

RS mentioned again today he had no specific details, but he kind of said just from what he knew it just simply didn't work out, which I agree with. You can want it to work with someone and care about someone, but that doesn't mean it will work. It's nice to see that the both of them have taken the high road so far. I think it certainly speaks about them genuinely caring for each other.

Oh, NO. I didn't mean hate each other or anything, bad like the was no way they were gonna stay together. Three days after the red carpet and them announcing was over spoke volumes how they couldn't pretend anymore.
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Post by Kashathediva Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:24 pm

Totally unbelievable that TPTB did not know, IMOAA.
More likely TPTB set up a timeline for the breakup and gave the ok for Josh to confide in his friends on the down low. Same with MEandI.



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Post by StacyNor Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:40 pm

^ Chris denied he knew anything about it.
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Post by Kashathediva Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:50 pm

If referring to CH--he would deny his children if MF and Co. instructed such.
The man wouldn't know the truth if it was a pit bull and bit him in the butt and then got lock jaw.



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Post by GuardianAngel Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:52 pm

CH set himself up on the Red Carpet so he could make a statement that he didn't know anything about it IMO. He clearly was uncomfortable himself. Besides, they clearly were expected to attend the Red Carpet as if nothing was wrong, CH had to play along. He couldn't very well ask him about rumours of a split. They were all in on it. No two ways about it IMO

Once J/A made it known to the people they need to advise, word gets around and CH isn't immune to the info.


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Post by Guest Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:02 pm

This just makes Andi's ring flashes and wedding talk look that much worse IMO, she knew it was done and she's on national tv talking about Josh eating and drinking wine for the wedding. Brutal any bit of respect I had for her is gone

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Post by mindless Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:11 pm

Yeah, considering it seemed to have been common knowledge, there's no way CH didn't know. But I think what Brian said confirms it really was an amicable split. I think having to put on a show on the red carpet was just he last straw for Josh. He seems like a genuine guy and faking it must've been painful. Andi is more of a pro, and if it were up to her I think they might still be pretending. I think the timing might actually have something to do with the fact that Josh also had those Advocare events coming up and he knew that if Andi wasn't there, he'd be constantly asked about her. And he didn't want her there. Advocare seems to mean a lot to him, so having to pretend in front of the people involved is probably the last thing he wanted to do. So splitting up a couple of days before so everyone knows what's up makes a lot of sense.
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Post by Alanna Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:15 pm

Costiesgirl wrote:This just makes Andi's ring flashes and wedding talk look that much worse IMO, she knew it was done and she's on national tv talking about Josh eating and drinking wine for the wedding. Brutal any bit of respect I had for her is gone
I'll cut her some slack here. She was probably horrified and humiliated and didn't know how to act.


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Post by Kashathediva Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:25 pm

When you are not sure how to act you err on the side of caution with grace and class. Several well rehearsed consistent short statements would have been good. They had a an entire plane ride to practice. It's not like they didn't know this was going down.
Flashing a ring and coming out with some of the unrehearsed gibberish did not do her well.



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Post by Guest Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:38 pm

I agree Kasha, when asked about the wedding they could have said a million different things, we have no plans yet, we've been too busy to think about it, even were just delaying it for a while. It's no wonder Josh looked like he was close to throwing up he was probably mortified, he didn't really answer the question at all he just said yeah I like to eat and drink... Now that the video is out I have no doubt that Josh was the one that ended it. We all forget Andi was getting paid to do the bachelor so her keeping up the charade was part of her deal, All Josh got was some ill fitting suits and scarves

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Post by GuardianAngel Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:51 pm

Costiesgirl wrote:This just makes Andi's ring flashes and wedding talk look that much worse IMO, she knew it was done and she's on national tv talking about Josh eating and drinking wine for the wedding. Brutal any bit of respect I had for her is gone

IA just very nasty how she played that up. However, I have as many others have, seen this fakeness since JPG's season, so nothing that ever came out of her mouth was believable to me. She would have been better off being very suttle, and "look" like she was just doing her duties of being there rather than going OTT looking like a fool a few days later.

If anyone watches that segment now knowing what we know, it's so much worse watching her. She has always annoyed me, from day 1.


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Post by Kashathediva Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:56 pm

This is indeed why she has that scarlet A on her hiney. A for annoying. Andinoying


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