Re: Bachelor Canada - Season 2 - Tim Warmels - *Sleuthing - *Spoilers* - *Speculation* - Trisha

by jojo47 Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:18 pm

sophienette wrote:Could you post your suggestions on the timeline in the non-Trish tread?

I started a timeline in the Sleuthing Thread.

by Aunties_Love Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:28 pm

4health wrote:So looking at the timeline upthread....if the FRC is 19th - 21st

let's take a look at post timeline for fun

??? April's SM May 21, 2014
Tim's IG post May 27, 2014
Trisha IG started May 31, 2015 plus her friend posted a IG picture of them getting together saying so glad she is back.

If the FRC is 21st April was gone
If the FRC is 19th April was at the FRC but immediately left and home by 21st

So with this theory April is F2

So Tim posting on May 27th he came up for air after the FR either in Tahiti or he posted when he was landing in VO and saying in a few day after all the filming, interviews etc and first interview IG photo was June 3rd. Trisha was on IG meeting friends on May 31st...so that gives the final couple May 22nd - May 27th to hang out together in Tahiti. 5 days Does that make sense???? Just some fun speculating here!

I so agree. It's entirely possible that the frc could be done by may 19/20th. Therefore, the IG SM could still be up for play. IMO.

by Aunties_Love Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:33 pm

djogbenyuie wrote:
4health wrote:So since I am bored I thought I would continue with my comparison stuff. I have always stated that I am TeamTim so as the lead I think his blog is the only blog to take merit from. So, with that in mind I am going to compare and take a look at each blog and document what has been mentioned in his blog about each one of the final 2 or their dates.

Tim's Blogs

Episode Week 1- First RC "Unforgettable Night"
Nothing

Episode Week 2 - "Let the Dates Begin"
Dragon Boat race - "The dragon boat race was amazing and so much fun. I just hope the ladies had fun, too! They all definitely worked hard, and my evening with the winners was as magical as the Chinese Gardens surrounding us. I got to know some of the women a lot better and there were some surprises, too...some ver welcome surprises.....(??TRISHA)

Photoshot - The photoshot was on of the wildest days of my life. It was long, exciting, and emotionally tough - mostly because it reminded me of how much everyone had invested to be a part of this unique experience to find love.

(Sonia, Kiss Nat) Sitting on the moped with April Brockman was a very cute moment, and it was unusually comfortable being that close to her........I chose to spend the rest of the date with April Brockman because I felt a very natural connection with her that I couldn't explain. It was just there and I needed to see where it would go. And it was an amazing date! It was such a perfect evening with the live music and the sun setting. It was the best way to end the night.

Episode Week 3 - "Caught between two extremes....."
Nothing

Episode Week 4 - "Serious Conversations and shark-infested waters"
Trisha - "Trisha and I made a connection that day and as hard as it was to see Rileigh off on the boat, I knew I had made the right decision."

April - shark date no mention by name

Episode Week 5 - "This is getting real"
April - "April Brockman and I had a date. This was the first time for us one-on-one since after the photoshot at the mansion, and I really wanted to show her my life in Toronto. I felt we both had the most questions about each other when it came to this."

Trisha - "The next day was focused purely on having fun at Canada's Wonderland, but, unfortunately, it didn't tune out as any of us had expected." ...."emotional moments for the group." "torn between logic and emotion"....."I hurt the others and it was a tough situation to be in."

Episode Week 6 - "I can't know what truly happened that night...." Tuscany. Beautiful Tuscany
Trisha - "I wanted something special for us, and dinner in the old town and a stroll seemed to fit the bill. Trisha and I always enjoyed out time together, but I was actually starting to worry that we would never get to that romantic place. But this all changed during the course of the evening...maybe because I opened up to her more, sharing that this experience scares me too, or perhaps it was the diamonds? Kidding! I'm glad the present made her feel special. There was an accordion player in the town square, and it was a complete surprise for her....there wasn't a dry eye in the place. I was so happy to make her smile that much and I have never felt closer to her."

April - Paint Portrait Date - nothing

Episode Week 6 - HTD
"Trisha and experiencing Edmonton with her was a blast. I don't think there was a single second we stopped laughing. Her family was incredible, and seeing that loving side of Trisha really changed things for me with her."

April - "My date with April felt like a rollercoaster. We really connected and delved into some deep issues with one another. I also met the most caring and loving group of people. April shared some things that have happened in her life that have made it hard for her to open up to others. I was almost relieved when she told me this because it made the whole story come together in such a real way."

Episode Week 8 - WTA nothing about F2

As a typed this and reviewed this, it is interesting to me that even his Tim's blog he shares his feelings about Trisha and with April it is concerns, questions etc. JMO

Almost as if he was explaining himself about how he felt with April.
Like okay guys currently i'm in love with Trish and this is how it happened, and with April it was more like i had to see where it could go.
If Trish is indeed F1 these blogs could very well reassure her about his feelings troughout the show. IMO

I agree, he was trying to reassure Trish that she is still his F1 and they are fine. To me, I really think that he has been speaking to Trish throughout the airing of the show in his blogs.

by 4health Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:48 pm

sophienette wrote:
4health wrote:
sophienette wrote:5/12Travel
Moorea :
5/13 FD1 could be a travel date
5/14 FD 2 MTP first Trisha and not dates

if it is FD.. it has a night portion!

So I dont think timeline posted above works...

I think it is just a date, we don't know that he spent overnight with anyone yet. I think there were only one date in Moorea per the tv guide description that is what I am going on....even if there was two date FD and LCD May 14th could still be Trisha's meet the parents because the time schedule of when they would travel to Moorea is around the 12th - 13th so if there are two dates and we add those to the timeline and meet the parents what would they do from end of hometowns around the 11th until the May 24th to match to MTP rain with Trisha. MTP 2 days, FD 2 days, LCD 2 days that is six days total what do they do the other days?????

I asked somewhere how confident we are on the posted timeline, up to Moorea, i.e. what proofs we have? D

So my earlier post from a timeline I found at ATR and also my thoughts added to it and then did my own checking stuff out like airtime etc. I didn't just randomly just post it with not thought to it.....I also did my own sleuthing of airlines and other SC posts and other peoples thoughts and what was shown on the episodes that this timeline came to be.....so see here where it all started and why things were adjusted etc. The Meet & Greet was adjusted because I saw a tweet somewhere and also Tim's SM post about his journey starting on April 7th didn't make sense for it to be 10 days later so I went with the tweet (I will go find it if I can FYI so I adjusted it a few days and match the other sleuthing I did...
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by Guest Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:56 pm

From the other thread, the Bahamas first date was on the 28 of April.. maing the 14th of May MTP difficult...

by **GuardianAngel** Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:09 pm

This is the last warning. Everyone that has an attitude, can simple go to another forum. We aren't prepared to babysit and teach posters to be polite and non sarcastic.

If this continues, the posters will be dealt with privately and possibly be banned for three days. The purpose of this post is so everyone can see we are tired of the nonsense. The mods have been extremely patient and polite with the warnings.

Thanks to those who clearly have used the foe and those who do not get baited responding to sarcastic posts or those who respond to sarcastic posts in a civil manner.

by 4health Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:15 pm

FYI .....I am so sorry to cause such a commotion.....I just am trying to sleuth things and I look everywhere and re-watch etc.
Ava Boutilier @AvaBoutilier1 Apr 28

they're filming the bachelor Canada at our resort rn wtf ???

This person was at a resort in the Bahamas.

This person and I chatted on dm. She was saying that they were filming when they arrived at the resort. They were there from the 23 to the 28th. Filming was done before they left.

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by Aunties_Love Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:02 pm

I want to say, sorry, this may be long but this thread went nuts today and I wanted to comment on some posts. Who would of thunk that a proving Trish as F1 thread can go so crazy??

AllAboutLove wrote:Really wish we could know what RR was talking about. I asked but RR said would keep it a mystery since it may have nothing to do with anything. I don't know but sleuthing or not, even if a so-called 'spoiler' post, that would certainly help with putting pieces together. Cannot wait for the end of all this tog come together! So excited hehe ;)

Just a question, would you be excited in the end if it was Trisha F1 ending?

sophienette wrote:4health wrote:

Why does it have to be Tim sending April home? Can it be April wanting to go home?

True! But then is he asks her to stay then she leaves anyway and he proposes to Trish.... Suspect hmmm

IMO that's entirely possible. I feel that April isn't ready for this and that plays on her doubts. She decides that she can't get there in time and leaves.

4health wrote: sophienette wrote:

4health wrote:

Why does it have to be Tim sending April home? Can it be April wanting to go home?

True! But then is he asks her to stay then she leaves anyway and he proposes to Trish.... Suspect hmmm

Maybe he doesn't say stay maybe he does exactly what he has done with the others....but I just don't think things are that cut and dry and that so black and white....there are so many other options that could happen.

I complete agree 4health. When all is said and done, all we have is April in the hotel room and Tim talking to her. We don't have any dialogue to tell us what happened. All we have is her upset and Tim talking. I can see it as trying to soothe her at time but in the end we hear her saying she wants to go home as the preview ends.

HEA wrote:week 2
Discovering Trish (dragon party). she is fun and open. no opportunity. first attraction.
Discovering April (photoshop/rimmel). she is pretty and mysterious. took opportunity to know her more

week 3: beach group date (?)
Trish: nothing special, she was in the middle of the girls. edits? did they have special moments that we never saw on TV?
April: he ran after her and made up in the water with her in front of everyone not caring about reactions. very attracted obviously.

week 4
2-on-1: knew already he would pick trish. opportunity to know her more. no distraction, on beach to speak and learn more.
sharks: april was the only one staying longer in the water. admiration. no fears

week 5:
first date with april: who is she? still very reserved.
group date wonderland: he hurt Trish (and sachelle and lisa). regrets. Tim realize that feelings are real. First time seeing trish unhappy and upset.

week 6:
Italy: falling in love with Trish. discovering further the intellectual and emotional
Painting: he picked lisa, not april. lost opportunity with her

week 7:
HTD Trish: perfect, easy, loving, fun (reminds me of Ash and JP). bomb shell: i fell a long time ago
HTD April: tensed IMO. both distant physically. april shared her past at week 7. no declaration from Tim to April. still wondering if she will truly trust him and go further.

week 8:
MTP trish: looks like everything went okay
MTP April: Not so okay at all.

so...... considering the above, the love story I see is with trish. I have no doubt he was attracted to April but even if she opened at hometown was it a bit too late and even if she talked about her past, I did not see a love declaration, only insecurities. I always thought it was a bit arrogant from April to say that she is hard to catch but she is worth it.

But again, that was the edited version. Will they repeat the same Bianca hard to catch or will they show us an easy and fun love story with no drama from the start?

HEA, thanks for your thoughts. I also want to thank you for trying to get the thread back on track with trying to prove that Trish is F1. Now, I do agree, things are easier with Trish, it doesn't mean that they never had any serious talks. Just means that we didn't see them. But Tim himself has said that he fell for her a long time ago. Why would they leave that in the edit unless it comes back into the storyline later on. I think Trish was the long, good love and not the quick burn that can easily fade with April. Something tells me that it will be Trish in the end...again, thanks for sharing.

HEA wrote:great points AAL
I would not have believed much Trish if she said from the start that she was madly in love with him too. For her to say that her head says it is crazy is more acknowledging that she did fall in love despite the unusual situation.
Everyone who want to participate have reservation and no matter if they said they came to find potentially love, they do not believe it. what are the odds it would really happen. It is all nice and fun to say it but to really accept it, is another matter.
I think trish is more afraid that is it not real love vs april is more afraid that she can trust him. looks the same but it is not. Trish knows she loves him and she trust him but not herself, april does not trust him at this point, not her. they are both waiting the ILY from tim but for different reasons.
not sure if i make sense, sorry.

IMO, They are really showing the love story for Trish. Yea, the editing may not be showing it all but if you look closely and listen to what is being said between them....the story is there. Not to mention, every RC, Trish has been anxious and worried that she may not get a rose.....She has been all in for a while because of that.....so much like Bianka in that matter.

4health wrote:sophienette wrote:But this is not a fan thread? Not sure how we can discuss if April cant be mentionned?
(not being snarky, promise! Just want to figure out how we can discuss points that touch on both girls when brought up here?)

April is mentioned all over at the other threads, my understanding this is the thread to prove why we think Trisha is F1, mods please let me know if that is right?

I agree. April and her discussion is everywhere else. This thread IMO is to discuss why we feel Trisha is F1 and to be honest, IMO, there are so many points in her favor...hope to post them soon. Just getting a few things together.

AllAboutLove wrote:4health wrote:I am trying to figure out the timeline that is here to the raining schedule in Moorea since it is raining on Trisha's MTP day....(water spots on his shirt in SCs) because I truly believe the FRC date and SM activity with April (going on gut and assumptions) will determine alot. So any thoughts will help....

Not sure if this will help you 4health. But based on rain dates in Moorea, we know it rained May 24 and May 25. So that means either day was Trish's MTP and therefore April's MTP had to be May 23 or May 26. This then eliminates any May 21 post that RR had about April since she was still in Moorea during that time (either May 23, May 26 MTP). Following this reasoning, first SM by Trish was May 31 and April was June 22 (but her bff posted a happy bday not in real time to April May 29 with a post of April and her in real time June 21st). That is all I know as of now based on rain dates and SM.

From the rain schedule that Sophie shared, we also see that it rained on the 14th. What if the MTP was filmed first? Isnt that entirely possible? According to coastal's schedule on ATR, Going off that schedule, I think it's entirely possible that it could of started earlier, not to mention how the first TV guide mentioned meeting the parents came first.

AllAboutLove wrote:That actually makes more sense that it is May 14 raining day because there was only one day of rain not back-to-back dates of raining for May 24+25.

So if FRC May 19, the RR post for May 21 can definitely be supported as Trish F1 and April F2.

I agree. BTW, great work on the timeline 4health!! There is really a possibility that Trish is F1, April F2. When you look at what the original tv guide said about meeting the parents before the fd's, then the 14th with the rain really fits. It makes complete sense.

AllAboutLove wrote:^^ Pm'd you Steel.

As for the timeline. Even with FD before MTP (switching them around), how does one get to 10 days later on that timeline for it to rain again (MTP for Trish) in May 24/25. That means nearly ten days later it rains from FD to MTP?. That would be a long time.

Rain options: May 14 or (ten days later) May 24/25

If the timeline is correct, then May 14 makes more sense than May 24/25 for Trish's MTP. But then that is a lot of days to stay in Moorea if FRC May 19 (Tim left May 28?). Even so, makes more sense to stay longer after FRC (spend time with F1, do PIs and last minute filming) than to stretch out the days before FRC...

I completely agree and since Trish was seen at home on May 31, she could entirely be the F1.

northernviewer wrote:4health wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:^^ I am confused. Northernviewer stated that the FDs would be before MTPS. My post is stating that even if that was the case, it seems to me that the MTP with Trish would still be May 14th based on the rain and the timeline and thus support Trish as F1.

If this was already discussed thus deadhorse I apologise. Your information on the timeline has helped me see that May 14 makes more sense for MTP with Trish.

What I meant by the dead horse is the comment about people want to stretch out time to meet the rain and fit their story into their timeline. I say that the horse is already dead in my book.

and I think you are the one stretching the timeline, having them have the MTP first, before FD's, which goes against all things Bachelor related, in order for April to be home by May 21st.... and all because of some supposed "proof" that has never been verified.... only hinted at by a poster. Show me the "proof" and I'll consider it... until then it means nothing to me.

How is it stretching the timeline? To me, it fits a whole lot better than it going to the 25th....what the heck are they going to do in Moorea in between the dates. they arrive there on the 12th with the schedule that was posted, BTW, that schedule makes complete sense! Tim has stated that they've done things completely different so maybe this is one of those "different" things.

umngirl wrote:Maybe because I'm not super familiar with Canadian geography, but wouldn't there need to be a travel day in between some of these HTDs? If so, that pushes the MTP dates back to the later part of May no mid-May.

ETA: I also think they'd want an additional travel day for getting to Moorea and adjusting to the time. But that's JMO.

Today at 12:59 pm

Actually they'd not need extra dates for the HTD's. It takes 2-3 hrs to drive from Calgary to Edmonton.....easily done after a HTD. or morning of the next one. Then with him already going back to Toronto after Sudbury, he wouldn`t need any date in between then. The only time he`d need a date would be from travelling from Toronto to Calgary. As I have stated before, I really think that he`d fly into Calgary and do that one first as the Calgary airport is the hub of all west bound traffic. From there, you`d fly to just about anywhere. Therefore, it makes complete sense to fly there do Lisa's then Trisha's in Edmonton and especially knowing that Lisa's didn't happen, it is very reasonable that he drove up to Edmonton that day and was very prepared for Trisha's. Now with regards to Moorea, they do.

by **GuardianAngel** Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:02 pm

4health wrote:FYI .....I am so sorry to cause such a commotion.....I just am trying to sleuth things and I look everywhere and re-watch etc.
Ava Boutilier @AvaBoutilier1 Apr 28

they're filming the bachelor Canada at our resort rn wtf ???

This person was at a resort in the Bahamas.

This person and I chatted on dm. She was saying that they were filming when they arrived at the resort. They were there from the 23 to the 28th. Filming was done before they left.

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That tweet was post April 28th and momoftrips posted it here the same day. Giving credit to our poster.

momoftrips on Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:56 pm

Ava Boutilier @avaboutilier1
they're filming the bachelor Canada at our resort rn wtf ???

She is in the Bahamas

by Guest Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:07 pm

If Bahamas filming was completed on 28th, how is this possible:

Mexico (Cabos)
4/26 - per tweet

Cool Breeze ‏@TxCoolBreeze · Apr 26
Filming the Bachelor series at my hotel in Cobo. Lucky guy. pic.twitter.com/Qv4HXZ42Bd
from Los Cabos, Baja California Sur
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by **GuardianAngel** Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:21 pm

DazedAndConfused wrote:1. Vancouver
2. Cabo, Mexico
3. Bahamas
4. Toronto
5. Stay tuned...

by Guest Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:24 pm

I guess my confusion is that on 1 side we have a tweet stating filming in Cabos on the 26th, and a tweet and PM to AFRwith person who sent that tweet stating they left the bahamas on the 28th and filming had been completed earlier...

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