Re: Bachelor Canada - Season 2 - *Sleuthing - *Spoilers* - *Speculation* - Discussion #2

by Guest Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:52 pm

4health wrote:

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Sprite we will know in a week....I see what you see but with someone totally different and that is okay. I look at a lot of different things and when the puzzle is done then we see the big picture that is all I am trying to say. As to the bold I have commented that you never see Trisha say April's name, another example of editing, Trisha could have been giving a statement about someone that was filming her and they edited it as being about April's date card reaction. JMO We can see it the way you want and I do the same all is good.

2 could be fun.... now that would be new Smiley

by Kashathediva Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:11 pm

Guys--can we please not personalize our responses to others. Thank you. cheeky

When responding please read your post and silently say to yourself how does this read if it were me this response was for. beatingheart

Thank you!

by jojo47 Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:33 pm

Sprite wrote:
northernviewer wrote:
sophienette wrote:

How is her saying with a disgusted face, in an ITM, "quit being so happy"? even if not about April per say, she said that with that face about something & someone!

plus she's being edited as being catty and mean sometimes, and she does seem to be fond of making fun of people with her "funny" comments. Not usually something they do with an F1.... besides Courtney that is, but they had not choice but to show her nasty side... cuz it was the only side she had

There is a reason they left those faces and some of those comments in...even if they were taken out of context when editing. It is not like she is anything like a Courtney or a Whitney. They didn't need to have those in there and yet, there they are. As I have been saying all along, these subtle things are what makes me doubt she is F1 even if I didn't have a bunch of other clues weighing in April's favour for F1.

Death by a thousand cuts....

The bolded above is one of my favorite lines to sum up Trisha's edit.

I could make an endless list of why she hasn't had an F1 edit. I personally think Trisha has been funny, but as Sprite says above, there are so many subtleties that make me think there's no way Trisha is F1. Then you add all the reasons why the edit (and post-show) shows that April is F1 and that just seals the deal for me.

by 4health Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:38 pm

jojo47 wrote:
Sprite wrote:
northernviewer wrote:

plus she's being edited as being catty and mean sometimes, and she does seem to be fond of making fun of people with her "funny" comments. Not usually something they do with an F1.... besides Courtney that is, but they had not choice but to show her nasty side... cuz it was the only side she had

There is a reason they left those faces and some of those comments in...even if they were taken out of context when editing. It is not like she is anything like a Courtney or a Whitney. They didn't need to have those in there and yet, there they are. As I have been saying all along, these subtle things are what makes me doubt she is F1 even if I didn't have a bunch of other clues weighing in April's favour for F1.

Death by a thousand cuts....

The bolded above is one of my favorite lines to sum up Trisha's edit.

I could make an endless list of why she hasn't had an F1 edit. I personally think Trisha has been funny, but as Sprite says above, there are so many subtleties that make me think there's no way Trisha is F1. Then you add all the reasons why the edit (and post-show) shows that April is F1 and that just seals the deal for me.

So in that same line of thinking.....Death by a thousand cuts.....you can put that with Tim's thousand cuts during any time with April....you don't see him say a continuous statement without it being totally edited to get his point across....hey I know we are on two different teams and different view points but it doesn't make either one right or wrong until the story comes to and end .... so what say ye if the other one is the F1.....I have stated that this is Tim's story and either girl has their strong points and will be good but they are just like Tim has stated in a VO in preview "two very different". JMO

by Guest Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:20 pm

I think we should rename the show: the edited bachelor and his harem amazons
**EDITED** So many times I thought the bachelor was great and when the show ended he turned to be not that great.
it is a mystery for me but love to read some comments for sure

by tigertiz Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:35 pm

If what has been shared in the past couple days from RR is legit, May 21, 2014 then the timeline at ATR in Trisha's thread supports that April isn't F1. JMO

I thought that the May 21 2014 post was of a picture OF April, not a post written BY April. Huge difference. Is there a definitive answer as to this question?

So many comments have been based on the producers controlling the girls and lead's SM/what they do or don't do, etc, post-filming. What we are ALL about to find out is whether this is true or not.

I have not seen one single interview with a producer in which he/she has stated that they are controlling the contestants post filming SM. I have looked for it. I have watched the Sean DeVries interview. He did not say this.

Death by a thousand cuts....

:Nod: I am so going to use this in the future.

by 4health Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:47 pm

tigertiz wrote:
If what has been shared in the past couple days from RR is legit, May 21, 2014 then the timeline at ATR in Trisha's thread supports that April isn't F1. JMO
I thought that the May 21 2014 post was of a picture OF April, not a post written BY April. Huge difference. Is there a definitive answer as to this question?
So many comments have been based on the producers controlling the girls and lead's SM/what they do or don't do, etc, post-filming. What we are ALL about to find out is whether this is true or not.
I have not seen one single interview with a producer in which he/she has stated that they are controlling the contestants post filming SM. I have looked for it. I have watched the Sean DeVries interview. He did not say this.

Death by a thousand cuts....
:Nod: I am so going to use this in the future.

tigertiz I would love to understand your thinking on this I truly mean it I do...so in SM world you think a post of a picture of April isn't a piece to a puzzle but a post by April is a bigger piece of a puzzle...am I understanding you correctly? I just want to understand how people view SM that's all. I want to know if I agree with your thinking or not so I can then make a change in my own thinking or not. Because right now as I see both options are pieces to this big puzzle. If it is a picture of April you don't know when or what or where but can't that also be said about a post by April also.

by AllAboutLove Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:57 pm

tigertiz wrote:
If what has been shared in the past couple days from RR is legit, May 21, 2014 then the timeline at ATR in Trisha's thread supports that April isn't F1. JMO
I thought that the May 21 2014 post was of a picture OF April, not a post written BY April. Huge difference. Is there a definitive answer as to this question?

Correct, April did not post herself. First SM post by April was June 22.

Without seeing this post, it is difficult to talk about. Only RR has seen it but has stated it won't be shared on the forum. Either, imo, because it has little significance to who F1 is or it is a spoiler that is so evident that sleuthing will basically stop and we will become RS. Unless there was evidence of the post I cannot speculate on the post itself but I can only speculate on why it is not being shared with the forum and thus, if harmless, I say it would be easily shared and if a spoiler, less likely to be shared. And this may very well be the case since it is unknown, focusing on the unknown May 21st post causes one to try fit this unknown into what is sleuthed thus far and becomes problematic, imo.

by Guest Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:58 pm

How confident are we on the actual dates in the timeline?

"5/12 Travel to Moorea..."

by jojo47 Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:14 pm

I don't think May 14th works for MTP because we have tweets in the SC No Discussion Thread with timelines as follows:

Momoftrips posted on April 25th @ 1:58 am (so actual tweet could've been from Apr 24)

jamie_v_
5 hours ago · Hyatt Ziva Los Cabos
Didn't realize the bachelor was in front of me!

Then again for volleyball date:

Cool Breeze ‏@TxCoolBreeze · Apr 26
Filming the Bachelor series at my hotel in Cobo. Lucky guy. pic.twitter.com/Qv4HXZ42Bd
from Los Cabos, Baja California Sur

So April 26th is Cabos RC, as per Tim saying the RC was that nite.

Let's say April 27th is travel.

Then this tweet posted by Aunties_Love on April 28th from Bahamas that was sleuthed out to be at the Atlantis.

Ava Boutilier @AvaBoutilier1 Apr 28
they're filming the bachelor Canada at our resort rn wtf ???

I don't believe the timeline for a May 14th MTP works if you go forward from April 28th above, as that would be the first date in Bahamas.

If someone wants to start the timeline going forward from this point based on all the remaining dates, that's fine. Feel free to correct the timeline above if it's inaccurate, but it's based on actual filming being witnessed.

ETA: The timeline done up to show MTP on May 14th shows filming already in Toronto on April 28th. Based on the tweets above, filming was still in Bahamas (and likely just starting) on April 28th.

by Guest Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:41 pm

Thanks jojo! Makes me feel like I asked a pertinent question!

by Mr&MrsSmith Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:50 pm

sophienette wrote:Isnt it weird that of all the clues we have, the one thing that makes me hope Trish isnt F1 is her reaction to April getting her 1-1 date...

:hidingchair

You are not alone Sophienette. For me, on the very first episode I felt both Trisha and her edit indicated she would not be F1. I think of Christine taking Tim outside to sing for him. First they showed Trisha, mouth agape. Then came the ITM of the mocking cackle.
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As we know, Tim's response to Christine was to give her the First Impression Rose. Fundamentally opposite response.

Next, an ITM with Trisha saying "Another girl got a rose. I'm jealous. I wanted that rose. I don't know what kind of impressions those girls made, but ya, kind of (stab motion), hurts the heart. They got roses and I do not have one. It kinda sucks."

Trisha's next ITM "I might not be good enough. And I don't want to not be good enough."
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And during the RC, this was Trisha's response to April Brockman receiving a rose:
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The very first night I was left with the impression Trisha was more concerned with how she compared to the other girls, than how or if she connected with Tim. If Trisha were F1, IMO, many of these unflattering moments would have been left on the editing room floor. I can find examples in each episode, but I don't mean to start a negative ad campaign. I really do like Trisha, just not for Tim.

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