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Post by Ash2214 Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:18 pm

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I agree. We'd have some sort of SC if both girls go to the end.

Agreed. I know it's the US version and it's the bachelorette, but we had zero SC's of Andi's FRC because she let Nick go early. We didn't get anything until the week before and even then, we just saw Andi in her dress. We didn't get a single SC of either guy in a suit. We knew she was letting Nick go early. Production and editing even made it seem like it was the morning of the FRC, but we figured out it had to have been the day before.

I think that's exactly what's going on here. It's just my opinion, but I personally don't think Trisha lasts very long in Tahiti. I think she's let go after her FD at some point. I will say, if this is the case and April threatens to leave and she's the only one left and the one Tim wants, that will make for some crazy television. What the heck does Tim do?

If MTP is the first segment of the Part 1 Finale, I think we'll maybe see Trisha there. I personally don't think we'll see her on a FD or beyond with Tim, but that's just my thoughts/opinion.

I could see that too. I just don't understand why for so long we didn't have a single SC of Trisha in Moorea and now all we have is a quick shot of her in an ITM that appears to be in Moorea. I wouldn't be surprised if it's because they just don't have much of her there or they can't show it because it will give too much away with Tim maybe letting her go. Why wouldn't they show anything in regards to her dates with Tim? All we get is an ITM of Trisha saying she loves Tim? It's pretty clear on her HTD that she loved him, so it's not like anything big had to have happened in Moorea for Trisha to say that.

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Post by 4health Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:23 pm

Ash2214 wrote:
jojo47 wrote:
Ash2214 wrote:

Agreed. I know it's the US version and it's the bachelorette, but we had zero SC's of Andi's FRC because she let Nick go early. We didn't get anything until the week before and even then, we just saw Andi in her dress. We didn't get a single SC of either guy in a suit. We knew she was letting Nick go early. Production and editing even made it seem like it was the morning of the FRC, but we figured out it had to have been the day before.

I think that's exactly what's going on here. It's just my opinion, but I personally don't think Trisha lasts very long in Tahiti. I think she's let go after her FD at some point. I will say, if this is the case and April threatens to leave and she's the only one left and the one Tim wants, that will make for some crazy television. What the heck does Tim do?

If MTP is the first segment of the Part 1 Finale, I think we'll maybe see Trisha there. I personally don't think we'll see her on a FD or beyond with Tim, but that's just my thoughts/opinion.

I could see that too. I just don't understand why for so long we didn't have a single SC of Trisha in Moorea and now all we have is a quick shot of her in an ITM that appears to be in Moorea. I wouldn't be surprised if it's because they just don't have much of her there or they can't show it because it will give too much away with Tim maybe letting her go. Why wouldn't they show anything in regards to her dates with Tim? All we get is an ITM of Trisha saying she loves Tim? It's pretty clear on her HTD that she loved him, so it's not like anything big had to have happened in Moorea for Trisha to say that.

Ash if you go watch Brad's season preview there wasn't much shown of Bianka's dates during finale either.  This is the editing team that didn't include any screencaps of Tim and Trisha's Italy date either in that preview.  I need to go watch Brad's preview again and see if there was a date that wasn't shown.  Usually previews show at least one little scene of each date for the season but in Tim's there wasn't one of Trisha's Italy date.  I find that very weird.   I think I just might have to go watch them both again and see if every date is at least present of Brad/Whit and Brad/Bianka or was there one left out and then do the same with Tim's, it would be interesting to see.  Production/editing I am sure have there reasons.

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Post by Aunties_Love Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:31 pm

tigertiz wrote:nv, I totally agree that it's April who has a problematic MTP (and this causes her to want to leave).  This is the conflict she has to overcome for her storyline.  Maybe they asked too many questions about her parents and her estrangement from her mother?

northernviewer wrote:
joshfan wrote:I didnt watch brads season but he only had 9 episodes i read, can anyone explain why there is one less than tims? So this tues is wta, then next week is split into two parts as well? I read that the finale is split into two parts? Wait what is considered the finale (isnt that mtp, lcd and proposal)

Well he does only have 2 girls for the FD's instead of the usual 3, so that knocks off about 15 mins of edit, and who knows.... he might even let his F2 go before an LCD or maybe even the FRC.... so that could give them even less to work with.  no idea
I think you've nailed it.  He has one less FD.  (There's no need for a F3 to F2 RC either.)

Perhaps the reason that we havent seen a preview of the FRC is that he lets Trisha go at the FD.  He chooses April, but she doesnt know it.  Once Trisha is gone, we'd know there could only be one woman in a gown and that woman would be April.  There would be more drama at the end if we dont know whether April comes back or Tim has to walk away alone and heartbroken.    The climactic moment will be whether April shows up at the FRC at all, rather than finding out which woman exits the limo first.
Alternately, we will see a more typical FRC preview at the end of the WTA.
I really doubt we can jump to conclussions about Trish not getting a fd/lcd just because we don't have screencaps for it....we didn't have any for Trisha's date in Italy and we didn't have any LCD for Bianka in season 1, yet there was one, so to think that she doesn't get one now cause we don't have caps may be a huge leap.


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Post by Guest Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:32 pm

Ash2214 wrote:
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Perhaps the reason that we havent seen a preview of the FRC is that he lets Trisha go at the FD.  He chooses April, but she doesnt know it.  Once Trisha is gone, we'd know there could only be one woman in a gown and that woman would be April.  There would be more drama at the end if we dont know whether April comes back or Tim has to walk away alone and heartbroken.  The climactic moment will be whether April shows up at the FRC at all, rather than finding out which woman exits the limo first.
Alternately, we will see a more typical FRC preview at the end of the WTA.

I agree. We'd have some sort of SC if both girls go to the end.

Agreed. I know it's the US version and it's the bachelorette, but we had zero SC's of Andi's FRC because she let Nick go early. We didn't get anything until the week before and even then, we just saw Andi in her dress. We didn't get a single SC of either guy in a suit. We knew she was letting Nick go early. Production and editing even made it seem like it was the morning of the FRC, but we figured out it had to have been the day before.

I think that's exactly what's going on here. It's just my opinion, but I personally don't think Trisha lasts very long in Tahiti. I think she's let go after her FD at some point. I will say, if this is the case and April threatens to leave and she's the only one left and the one Tim wants, that will make for some crazy television. What the heck does Tim do?

Apparently, he runs as fast as he can over to see her. giggling I think they'll show the FD's first and he'll send Trish home before the overnight portion. Then we'll see the MTP with April. She's have her melt down... cliffhanger to the 30 minute finale and ATFR.

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Post by Aunties_Love Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:35 pm

sophienette wrote:
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iamreal2u wrote:So will they meet the families before the dates?  If so, then April seems to be fine on the dates with Tim.  Plus where are Trish's dates?

We don't have any tropical SC's for Trisha, other than an ITM that aired in last week's epi.

It could be to keep the F1 hidden... wass there shots of both Bianka and Whitney at last location in last year's 1st preview?
We had a face on one of Whit at the LCD location but none of Bianka unless you count the one where we have someone zipping up the white dress.


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Post by Guest Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:41 pm

I am rewatching the previews at the start and end of Ep01 and will get SCs by the 1/10 seconds...

Quick look first, and I was thinking about the Whit vs Bianka edit and the comparison Auntie did to this season... And to me LISA is pomoted in the rpeview the way Whit was last year... drama and a LOT of make outs (very clear unlikr some with April where we dont see her face, including "that" kiss and the ocean frolicking)....

If we compared them before Lisa's elimination, it would look like she is F2...

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Post by Aunties_Love Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:45 pm

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sophienette wrote:Good post AllAboutLove... but there is an AFR Smiley
 
Haha. Just read that! Thanks sophinette. Makes sense to me that there will be because Tim seems really happy post-show and in interviews.  :yes: In fact, Tim has stated that being on TB was "the most rewarding experience of his life!"  beatingheart

Just my thoughts:
1) If the upset is before the dates (yacht and sunset beach date) then there is nothing to be concerned about. 
2) If it is after these dates, imo, it may have to do with feeling rushed. She has stated on her HTD (and Tim agreed with her) that this is not a competition to her, it as about finding out if two people are really meant to be. She also said that the greatest loves take time (in her blog) and she will not rush anything. I am not 100% sold on the idea that if Tim chooses April she would want to be engaged already. In a relationship, maybe but perhaps not engaged. This could change though and she may get to a place of 'yes' to a proposal. 


No SC of Trish on any dates doesn't say 'hidden' to me. It says she is let go to me. This is the same thing we saw with Lisa and no HTD date with family in the preview. Her family wasn't 'hidden' she was let go before Tim met them so no SC to even show. That is what I think happens with Trish based on SC. Hiding someone to the point of not even seeing a romantic date (as we have with April on the sunset beach in Moorea) doesn't bode well for her. Even Brad's season there was something concerning Bianca and Whitney to go on. There would be no spoiler to have included something with Trish as well in Moorea (other than the non-date one). I guess we will see if anything new is shown in WTA. 
Well, we never had any sc's of Trish and Tim in Italy, yet we know it happened so therefore, no screencaps now means squat to me. We do know she went there, we do have that cap saying she loves him from a tropical location. To me, their time and dates have been kept hidden. We never had sc's of Bianka having a LCD yet she did so not having sc's now means so little.


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Post by 4health Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:46 pm

The running SC in Tahiti we might not even see it. We had Tim running in a park, did we see that one....No and there was much speculation and discussion that it was either Kaylynn or April. So sure that it was April being interviewed because it was her backpack from her TO date......but if we look at in hindsight it was him running to where Lisa was in her HTD....so the running pic of Tim in a park matches what he was wearing with Lisa....Lisa had on a off white/black little jacket and no high top boots and the big thing is the girl was for sure with black hair and was we know now is that it was Lisa and she had no boots on and she has red hair.....I just had to give this example of how easy it is to speculate and be so wrong....

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Post by northernviewer Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:52 pm

Aunties_Love wrote:
tigertiz wrote:nv, I totally agree that it's April who has a problematic MTP (and this causes her to want to leave).  This is the conflict she has to overcome for her storyline.  Maybe they asked too many questions about her parents and her estrangement from her mother?

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Well he does only have 2 girls for the FD's instead of the usual 3, so that knocks off about 15 mins of edit, and who knows.... he might even let his F2 go before an LCD or maybe even the FRC.... so that could give them even less to work with.  no idea
I think you've nailed it.  He has one less FD.  (There's no need for a F3 to F2 RC either.)

Perhaps the reason that we havent seen a preview of the FRC is that he lets Trisha go at the FD.  He chooses April, but she doesnt know it.  Once Trisha is gone, we'd know there could only be one woman in a gown and that woman would be April.  There would be more drama at the end if we dont know whether April comes back or Tim has to walk away alone and heartbroken.    The climactic moment will be whether April shows up at the FRC at all, rather than finding out which woman exits the limo first.
Alternately, we will see a more typical FRC preview at the end of the WTA.
I really doubt we can jump to conclussions about Trish not getting a fd/lcd just because we don't have screencaps for it....we didn't  have any for Trisha's date in Italy and we didn't have any LCD for Bianka in season 1, yet there was one, so to think that she doesn't get one now cause we don't have caps may be a huge leap.

It's called speculation....... something EVERYBODY does around here... it's what sleuthers do to try to reason out storylines based on what little we know. deadhorse


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Post by 4health Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:00 pm

sophienette wrote:I am rewatching the previews at the start and end of Ep01 and will get SCs by the 1/10 seconds...

Quick look first, and I was thinking about the Whit vs Bianka edit and the comparison Auntie did to this season... And to me LISA is pomoted in the rpeview the way Whit was last year... drama and a LOT of make outs (very clear unlikr some with April where we dont see her face, including "that" kiss and the ocean frolicking)....

If we compared them before Lisa's elimination, it would look like she is F2...

I totally agree with your thoughts....and then thought Whitney was the double whamy F2 and the drama. What I have been doing is watching to get insight when it comes to the finale, the drama being shown at the FD/LCD time and what dates are being shown. That is where I would love to hear your thoughts also.

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Post by Aunties_Love Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:06 pm

northernviewer wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:
sophienette wrote:

On his comments with his parents... would that mean he knew then he was happy... and had found the 1? At Ep5.... (you know where I am going there, right?) Hugesmile

On the 3 roses... still not sure what this means to be honest! What's your opinion on what they might mean?

Post interview TIm - I agree and think he is happily engaged... maybe he met someone esle since filming :shocked!:
Well, I know it is speculation, but I posted when I watched the Ep 5 and saw Tim tell April that he was once again at a life-changing spot with her present. And then introduces her to his best friend/best friend's fiance (the fiance part is most significant to me as it is a couple's thing to do!). I stated back then I thought the whole thing was all over and Tim was just going tr

we all came to that conclusion when watching that episode... and April's blog sealed the deal.
Please don't speak for me. I don't agree that it was a done deal then. I do think that there is a chance that Trish is the F1.


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Post by Mr&MrsSmith Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:12 pm

NV thanks for the episode descriptions. Here's the last two episode descriptions together, just for ease of reference as we're pages past already Smiley

Finale Part 1 - Tim and his potential soul mates travel to an exotic destination for an intimate overnight date, but drama erupts when the ladies meet Tim's parents in Part 1 of the two-part Season 2 finale.

Finale Part 2  In the conclusion of the two-part Season 2 finale, Tim gives out his final rose
ATFR Tim and the woman he chose face reactions to his decision and offer an update on their relationship.
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