The Bachelor Canada - Season 2 - Episode 5 - Oct 14 - Discussion - *Spoilers*

GuardianAngel wrote:

northernviewer wrote:
I don't think you read my post properly.... I said she is being edited as mean... BUT that I don't think that she is.  I get her sarcastic humour and I don't mind her at all.  It's my OPINION that they are purposely going out of their way to edit her in a mean way.  Perfect example was in a PI the other night where she says that (paraphrasing) April didn't have the right to be so happy.  they edited the serious part of the comment but I'm sure it was followed by a laugh or something to indicate that she was joking but they didn't want us to see that.. they wanted to her to appear much like Lisa in her nasty cutting remarks about the other girls.  THIS is what I'm saying they wouldn't do to an F1, regardless of which franchise it is, Canadian or American.  In fact, Canadians are even less likely to do this than the American drama frenzy producers would.  

I found Bianka to be a straight shooter, but never mean.  Whitney had that all wrapped up.  btw... the first season, I know I and many others had Bianka pegged as F1 soon after the season started.  there may not have been much literally going on between them as we know he was going to send her home early, but they had enough footage to edit it so that we could see it coming and nobody was surprised that she was F1, not ever.  

Nicely said, I totally see it this way as well. I'm not even comparing the editing to any other Franchise. I'm looking at it solely being Canadian and that it's a 1 hour show.

Outside of basic formula, I don't compare them either as the producers have an apple/oranges point of view... and I've been saying that for both seasons, so I find it a tad ironic that I'm being reminded not to do it

northernviewer wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

northernviewer wrote:
I don't think you read my post properly.... I said she is being edited as mean... BUT that I don't think that she is.  I get her sarcastic humour and I don't mind her at all.  It's my OPINION that they are purposely going out of their way to edit her in a mean way.  Perfect example was in a PI the other night where she says that (paraphrasing) April didn't have the right to be so happy.  they edited the serious part of the comment but I'm sure it was followed by a laugh or something to indicate that she was joking but they didn't want us to see that.. they wanted to her to appear much like Lisa in her nasty cutting remarks about the other girls.  THIS is what I'm saying they wouldn't do to an F1, regardless of which franchise it is, Canadian or American.  In fact, Canadians are even less likely to do this than the American drama frenzy producers would.  

I found Bianka to be a straight shooter, but never mean.  Whitney had that all wrapped up.  btw... the first season, I know I and many others had Bianka pegged as F1 soon after the season started.  there may not have been much literally going on between them as we know he was going to send her home early, but they had enough footage to edit it so that we could see it coming and nobody was surprised that she was F1, not ever.  

Nicely said, I totally see it this way as well. I'm not even comparing the editing to any other Franchise. I'm looking at it solely being Canadian and that it's a 1 hour show.

Outside of basic formula, I don't compare them either as the producers have an apple/oranges point of view... and I've been saying that for both seasons, so I find it a tad ironic that I'm being reminded not to do it

Hey no worries Northern.....I wasn't reminding you of doing anything. I asked a question because you mentioned Courtney from US series. No big deal.

4health wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

Nicely said, I totally see it this way as well. I'm not even comparing the editing to any other Franchise. I'm looking at it solely being Canadian and that it's a 1 hour show.

Outside of basic formula, I don't compare them either as the producers have an apple/oranges point of view... and I've been saying that for both seasons, so I find it a tad ironic that I'm being reminded not to do it

Hey no worries Northern.....I wasn't reminding you of doing anything.  I asked a question because you mentioned Courtney from US series.   No big deal.  

No problem. The reason I brought Courtney up was that nothing was fabricated with her nor was it with Vienna - they showed their "warts". Trisha is being given her warts by production and all I was pointing out was that no producer is going to do that to an F1.

Another think I was thinking is that the Canadian producers don't seem to follow any real set pattern - so why compare Bianca to Trish? Saying that the edit is similar so ergo trish is F1. I think they're more likely to edit it depending on the uniqueness of the season and situations. It's what I admire about this production crew.

northernviewer wrote:

4health wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

Outside of basic formula, I don't compare them either as the producers have an apple/oranges point of view... and I've been saying that for both seasons, so I find it a tad ironic that I'm being reminded not to do it

Hey no worries Northern.....I wasn't reminding you of doing anything.  I asked a question because you mentioned Courtney from US series.   No big deal.  

No problem.  The reason I brought Courtney up was that nothing was fabricated with her nor was it with Vienna  - they showed their "warts".   Trisha is being given her warts by production and all I was pointing out was that no producer is going to do that to an F1.  

Another think I was thinking is that the Canadian producers don't seem to follow any real set pattern - so why compare Bianca to Trish? Saying that the edit is similar so ergo trish is F1. I think they're more likely to edit it depending on the uniqueness of the season and situations.  It's what I admire about this production crew.

All I was pointing out Northern is that Bianka had a 2/1 date and a date before the hometowns. That's all. To me, that is what Bianka had so was putting it out there that there are similiarities between the two and editing/date selection and rose selections

Aunties_Love wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

4health wrote:

Hey no worries Northern.....I wasn't reminding you of doing anything.  I asked a question because you mentioned Courtney from US series.   No big deal.  

No problem.  The reason I brought Courtney up was that nothing was fabricated with her nor was it with Vienna  - they showed their "warts".   Trisha is being given her warts by production and all I was pointing out was that no producer is going to do that to an F1.  

Another think I was thinking is that the Canadian producers don't seem to follow any real set pattern - so why compare Bianca to Trish? Saying that the edit is similar so ergo trish is F1. I think they're more likely to edit it depending on the uniqueness of the season and situations.  It's what I admire about this production crew.

All I was pointing out Northern is that Bianka had a 2/1 date and a date before the hometowns.  That's all.  To me, that is what Bianka had so was putting it out there that there are similiarities between the two and editing/date selection and rose selections

I can't say too much as I didn't watch the first season, but my friend from Brampton did and according to her, you could tell Brad really liked Bianka and was trying to pull things out of her to get to know her better and that it was obvious that he liked her. IMO, I haven't seen Tim like that with Trisha. They may have had similar dates and timing wise, but if I'm going by what my friend has said and a few others here, they certainly don't seem to be similar relationships.

It's pretty clear that excluding April because it's obvious she would be in the F2, picking between Lisa, Kaylynn, Sachelle, and Trisha for someone to be in the final two is pretty darn easy. Kaylynn is an emotional wreck, Lisa apparently does something bad this week and has come off a bit mean, and he views Sachelle as a friend, for example, going to her to get information about the girls. It's just a process of elimination for me at least. I'm not saying he didn't like Trisha, but I'm sure it was real easy for Tim to have her there versus one of the other girls.

Regardless, I guess for me, if I was the F1 and I wasn't April, I would not be a happy camper with my fiancee

northernviewer wrote:

4health wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

Outside of basic formula, I don't compare them either as the producers have an apple/oranges point of view... and I've been saying that for both seasons, so I find it a tad ironic that I'm being reminded not to do it

Hey no worries Northern.....I wasn't reminding you of doing anything.  I asked a question because you mentioned Courtney from US series.   No big deal.  

No problem.  The reason I brought Courtney up was that nothing was fabricated with her nor was it with Vienna  - they showed their "warts".   Trisha is being given her warts by production and all I was pointing out was that no producer is going to do that to an F1.  

Another think I was thinking is that the Canadian producers don't seem to follow any real set pattern - so why compare Bianca to Trish? Saying that the edit is similar so ergo trish is F1. I think they're more likely to edit it depending on the uniqueness of the season and situations.  It's what I admire about this production crew.

If we didn't have different opinions and things to look at this forum would be dead and boring. I think Auntie mentioned the comparison like she has stated just something to think about and so have I put out some editing similarities. I guess when you state that no producer is going to do that to a F1 aren't you comparing seasons yourself. Like I stated I respectfully disagree because Bianka was F1 and she had a few edits that were not becoming of a F1. Plus, I don't think the scene you referenced was showing any warts of Trisha....I think Trisha and April are the F2 and they have to edit the F2 as not bf's JMO. If April is F1 she has a few things out of her mouth that might not be becoming of a F1. It's her voice when she states "what the f____" to Nat coming back and then you see her question Nat and say "What the hell". You also see her speak about Lisa's behavior and that she should have been gone over Nat. So, the F1 isn't always squeeky clean edit. JMO

Ash2214 wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

No problem.  The reason I brought Courtney up was that nothing was fabricated with her nor was it with Vienna  - they showed their "warts".   Trisha is being given her warts by production and all I was pointing out was that no producer is going to do that to an F1.  

Another think I was thinking is that the Canadian producers don't seem to follow any real set pattern - so why compare Bianca to Trish? Saying that the edit is similar so ergo trish is F1. I think they're more likely to edit it depending on the uniqueness of the season and situations.  It's what I admire about this production crew.

All I was pointing out Northern is that Bianka had a 2/1 date and a date before the hometowns.  That's all.  To me, that is what Bianka had so was putting it out there that there are similiarities between the two and editing/date selection and rose selections

I can't say too much as I didn't watch the first season, but my friend from Brampton did and according to her, you could tell Brad really liked Bianka and was trying to pull things out of her to get to know her better and that it was obvious that he liked her. IMO, I haven't seen Tim like that with Trisha. They may have had similar dates and timing wise, but if I'm going by what my friend has said and a few others here, they certainly don't seem to be similar relationships.

It's pretty clear that excluding April because it's obvious she would be in the F2, picking between Lisa, Kaylynn, Sachelle, and Trisha for someone to be in the final two is pretty darn easy. Kaylynn is an emotional wreck, Lisa apparently does something bad this week and has come off a bit mean, and he views Sachelle as a friend, for example, going to her to get information about the girls. It's just a process of elimination for me at least. I'm not saying he didn't like Trisha, but I'm sure it was real easy for Tim to have her there versus one of the other girls.      

Regardless, I guess for me, if I was the F1 and I wasn't April, I would not be a happy camper with my fiancee

That is what makes this fun. Every season yes is different, different characters, different cities, different dates and the biggest one different lead. But, as a video editor myself (for fun and business) there are some things that are constant and will repeat because it helps with the work load and you are able to check off your list of what you goal is. All I did weeks ago was state somethings I noticed that just might hold true again in the second season. I wanted to know who made it to the F2 and if it holds true to form that is April and Trisha because they are the only two out of the confirmed Italy SC that have highlight videos in premiere.

Also, if April isn't the F1 and say it is Trish why would she have issue with watching back the 5 episodes. They lived this and know what they signed up for. Trish, Lisa, Sachelle and Kaylynn if any of them are F1 already witnessed Tim & April in the water, Kaylynn making out in front of them. Trish's kissing scene in the water was pretty hot in my opinion so if the preview is showing that Trish's get a special gift from Tim then (wait to see) then April just might have a problem with that when she is watching back. I am still on the fence with calling a F1 right now. Plus it doesn't make sleuthing very fun when most the posts are all about this great love with April. I am this way even if my favorite is the F1 I love to figure things out.

It's never over till it's over! It's great reading everyone's opinions regardless of who each of us think is the F1/F2. We all see things differently and that's the fun part, IMO

Aunties_Love wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

4health wrote:

Hey no worries Northern.....I wasn't reminding you of doing anything.  I asked a question because you mentioned Courtney from US series.   No big deal.  

No problem.  The reason I brought Courtney up was that nothing was fabricated with her nor was it with Vienna  - they showed their "warts".   Trisha is being given her warts by production and all I was pointing out was that no producer is going to do that to an F1.  

Another think I was thinking is that the Canadian producers don't seem to follow any real set pattern - so why compare Bianca to Trish? Saying that the edit is similar so ergo trish is F1. I think they're more likely to edit it depending on the uniqueness of the season and situations.  It's what I admire about this production crew.

All I was pointing out Northern is that Bianka had a 2/1 date and a date before the hometowns.  That's all.  To me, that is what Bianka had so was putting it out there that there are similiarities between the two and editing/date selection and rose selections

Bianca had a 1 on 1 early on where she and Brad went to Mexico (I believe). I know they were on a boat where it was very warm and then swam in to the shore where they had the rest of their date. Brad was going to eliminate her and then the next week was this 1 on 1. Their 2 on 1 was in Paris. I can't remember the date before HTD's but I'm sure that is my memory. I know they went to travel out to an Iceberg but I think that was the fantasty suite date (FSD). It seems to me Bianka was telling him when they were on the beach, freezing, that if Brad did anything with the others in the FSD and she found out about it before or after if she was F1 that would be the end of them. A heads up so to speak..

4health wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

4health wrote:

Hey no worries Northern.....I wasn't reminding you of doing anything.  I asked a question because you mentioned Courtney from US series.   No big deal.  

No problem.  The reason I brought Courtney up was that nothing was fabricated with her nor was it with Vienna  - they showed their "warts".   Trisha is being given her warts by production and all I was pointing out was that no producer is going to do that to an F1.  

Another think I was thinking is that the Canadian producers don't seem to follow any real set pattern - so why compare Bianca to Trish? Saying that the edit is similar so ergo trish is F1. I think they're more likely to edit it depending on the uniqueness of the season and situations.  It's what I admire about this production crew.

If we didn't have different opinions and things to look at this forum would be dead and boring.   I think Auntie mentioned the comparison like she has stated just something to think about and so have I put out some editing similarities.   I guess when you state that no producer is going to do that to a F1 aren't you comparing seasons yourself.   Like I stated I respectfully disagree because Bianka was F1 and she had a few edits that were not becoming of a F1.     Plus, I don't think the scene you referenced was showing any warts of Trisha....I think Trisha and April are the F2 and they have to edit the F2 as not bf's  JMO.   If April is F1 she has a few things out of her mouth that might not be becoming of a F1.  It's her voice when she states "what the f____" to Nat coming back and then you see her question Nat and say "What the hell".   You also see her speak about Lisa's behavior and that she should have been gone over Nat.  So, the F1 isn't always squeeky clean edit. JMO

again, I don't think you got the point I was trying to make. It's not about whether or not the edit of the F1 is clean or not.. it's about whether or not it's accurate. I think the producers are giving Trish a meaner edit than she really is because of her attempt at humourous sarcasm... and April is getting edited in the proper context. Neither are angels, but Trish is getting used to add more drama to the season IMO.... as if Lisa and Kaylynn and Nat weren't enough

4health wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:
All I was pointing out Northern is that Bianka had a 2/1 date and a date before the hometowns.  That's all.  To me, that is what Bianka had so was putting it out there that there are similiarities between the two and editing/date selection and rose selections

I can't say too much as I didn't watch the first season, but my friend from Brampton did and according to her, you could tell Brad really liked Bianka and was trying to pull things out of her to get to know her better and that it was obvious that he liked her. IMO, I haven't seen Tim like that with Trisha. They may have had similar dates and timing wise, but if I'm going by what my friend has said and a few others here, they certainly don't seem to be similar relationships.

It's pretty clear that excluding April because it's obvious she would be in the F2, picking between Lisa, Kaylynn, Sachelle, and Trisha for someone to be in the final two is pretty darn easy. Kaylynn is an emotional wreck, Lisa apparently does something bad this week and has come off a bit mean, and he views Sachelle as a friend, for example, going to her to get information about the girls. It's just a process of elimination for me at least. I'm not saying he didn't like Trisha, but I'm sure it was real easy for Tim to have her there versus one of the other girls.      

Regardless, I guess for me, if I was the F1 and I wasn't April, I would not be a happy camper with my fiancee

That is what makes this fun.   Every season yes is different, different characters, different cities, different dates and the biggest one different lead.   But, as a video editor myself (for fun and business) there are some things that are constant and will repeat because it helps with the work load and you are able to check off your list of what you goal is.   All I did weeks ago was state somethings I noticed that just might hold true again in the second season.  I wanted to know who made it to the F2 and if it holds true to form that is April and Trisha because they are the only two out of the confirmed Italy SC that have highlight videos in premiere.  

Also, if April isn't the F1 and say it is Trish why would she have issue with watching back the 5 episodes.  They lived this and know what they signed up for.   Trish, Lisa, Sachelle and Kaylynn if any of them are F1 already witnessed Tim & April in the water, Kaylynn making out in front of them.  Trish's kissing scene in the water was pretty hot in my opinion so if the preview is showing that Trish's get a special gift from Tim then (wait to see) then April just might have a problem with that when she is watching back.      I am still on the fence with calling a F1 right now.   Plus it doesn't make sleuthing very fun when most the posts are all about this great love with April.    I am this way even if my favorite is the F1 I love to figure things out.  

Yes, they lived it out, but through these five episodes, it's all been April. He's chased her figuratively and literally. He made their first kiss private. He chose her for private 1-on-1 time in the first week. April was chosen for a 1-on-1 date where Tim lives. April met his best friend and his fiancee. It'a all been April. Everyone on SM and every person that writes a blog, such as Brad and Sharleen, thinks its April. That's how into April Tim is. The only other girls I have remotely even seen build a bit of something with are Kaylynn and Lisa. Let's say Trisha is the F1 and it's halfway through and all anyone can really see is that Tim wants April, well, I would imagine that would be difficult, especially considering to about 98% of viewers, April is the F1. That doesn't seem to stop either since we know she made it to at least the F3 in Moorea.

If I was on the show, I would be fine knowing I got the guy in the end, but if throughout the season halfway through and I didn't appear to be much of a "contender" whatsoever to Tim, well I wouldn't be feeling too good.

Like you said though, I'm glad not everyone thinks the same person is the F1 here. I think it would be a tad too boring otherwise. Who knows, maybe April does end up leaving and then Tim has time to think things over and he does pick his other F2 person. That would be very interesting haha

Can we watch in US? Tried delish but they don't have the episodes. Thanks in advance.