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Post by sammy24 Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:39 pm

Why don't they just make an announcement already. It's almost 9 here and hope this gets sorted out soon.

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Post by mercieme Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:41 pm

aerina wrote:Thanks for cheering me up, emusha, with that tweet! HAHA!

There are SO MUCH articles about this right now... so much it's worrying. Then again, there are signs that Blake and Sam are still together. I don't know what to believe.


Did we confirm he was really in Melbourne as of yesterday. The picture looked like him but I wasn't sure if it was confirmed that it was at the Melbourne airport since the guy that took it has Adelaide as his location on Instagram. And if you look at the guys' instagram, he also said Blake was with a lady that had a ring on her finger but he refused to say who so I thought he was just joking.

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Post by emusha Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:45 pm

so jeff hadn't talked to her in a week when he gave this interview....hmmm
said sam might be watching the show with the housemates
weird he says "it's good she's on the telly and all...she can do what she wants"
he seems SOOOO nonchalant
maybe he's not very close to her after all...
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Post by Guest Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:46 pm

mercieme wrote:
aerina wrote:Thanks for cheering me up, emusha, with that tweet! HAHA!

There are SO MUCH articles about this right now... so much it's worrying. Then again, there are signs that Blake and Sam are still together. I don't know what to believe.


Did we confirm he was really in Melbourne as of yesterday. The picture looked like him but I wasn't sure if it was confirmed that it was at the Melbourne airport since the guy that took it has Adelaide as his location on Instagram. And if you look at the guys' instagram, he also said Blake was with a lady that had a ring on her finger but he refused to say who so I thought he was just joking.

Apparently a poster here had said the guy who took it was staying in Melbourne since the backdrop in the guy's previous Insta posts resembled Geelong, a Melbourne suburb. I do believe he was in Melbourne because I do think there is no reason at all that he would travel to Adelaide.


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Post by emusha Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:50 pm

sammy24 wrote:Really sad if these rumours are true. But if I were Sam even I would be a bit insecure I mean yeah it's scripted but still you don't like to see your guy with other women.
But it's not like she wasn't aware that the other girls were having incredible dates as well. But looking at the F3 dates he did say he was falling for all 3 maybe she got a bit upset by that. Gosh this is a hard situation to be in and I guess until you're in it too don't how we'll think or feel.

YEA...I totally agree with this part sammy....that's why if they are thinking of not being together I don't want them to have horrific rumors etc. to live with/down like right now if they're going through a rocky time this buzz isn't going to help -- maybe blake is trying to win her back...maybe their being apart this whole time doesn't make sense while the show aired...maybe the show/attention is getting in the way of their love
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Post by Sundy Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:54 pm

Hi all. It was me that confirmed that the Instagram guy was in Geelong. That's 100% (feel funny using 100% in light of current revelations). Don't forget the new CEO of Channel 10 is a top Australian advertising exec. He would be loving this. I can't see it's true. The girls wouldn't have posted things on Instagram. We will know one way or the other today I suspect
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Post by emusha Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:54 pm

aerina wrote:
mercieme wrote:
aerina wrote:Thanks for cheering me up, emusha, with that tweet! HAHA!

There are SO MUCH articles about this right now... so much it's worrying. Then again, there are signs that Blake and Sam are still together. I don't know what to believe.


Did we confirm he was really in Melbourne as of yesterday. The picture looked like him but I wasn't sure if it was confirmed that it was at the Melbourne airport since the guy that took it has Adelaide as his location on Instagram. And if you look at the guys' instagram, he also said Blake was with a lady that had a ring on her finger but he refused to say who so I thought he was just joking.

Apparently a poster here had said the guy who took it was staying in Melbourne since the backdrop in the guy's previous Insta posts resembled Geelong, a Melbourne suburb. I do believe he was in Melbourne because I do think there is no reason at all that he would travel to Adelaide.

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Sundy wrote:I'm such a tragic!  The guy that took the photo lives in Adelaide but is originally from Ocean Grove which is outside of Geelong Victoria. There are photos of him at Ocean Grove (I'm VERY familiar with the place) from 7 September but nothing since then. Seems plausible that it's Melbourne airport
More proof for Melbourne! Look what flight arrived five minutes before that photo was taken...
No flights to Sydney from Perth match the time the photo was taken.
(This is assuming that Blake is flying from Perth).
So at this stage, with Lisa in Sydney, Blake in Melbourne and Sam in Melbourne, it's all pointing towards Blam! Or Slake! :yes:
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Post by emusha Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:58 pm

Sundy wrote:Hi all. It was me that confirmed that the Instagram guy was in Geelong. That's 100% (feel funny using 100% in light of current revelations). Don't forget the new CEO of Channel 10 is a top Australian advertising exec. He would be loving this. I can't see it's true. The girls wouldn't have posted things on Instagram. We will know one way or the other today I suspect
OR MAYBE a NEW CEO (different from Tim/Anna's season Sundy???) is drumming up attention rather than letting it dissipate into interviews and appearances where the network is WORKING on getting attention vs. being BEGGED for interviews and attention....
maybe this is the new BEYONCE of the reality dating show world... the "Drop a WHOLE album online in secret" variety of reality tv show promotion....
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Post by AllAboutLove Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:59 pm

mercieme wrote:
emusha wrote:group hug  yall!!! whatever happened we wittnesed a beautiful love story and I believe the people were real about it -- I will be really really sad if they break up but I'll also be ok with letting them make their own choices for what will make them happy.
I sensed there was something weird regarding the planning of the moves going on...with blake talking about sydney...and not being sure etc... anyhow...let's stay calm and see what ten announces!

Well said and well advised Emusha. I just don't like how Ten has allowed this to fester, they should release some official statement and allow them to not go through this media storm no matter what the outcome is.


Well I go back to my analysis about the TWO pseudo-proposals we saw prior to FRC: Lisa and Sam... 
and guess what... final episode they are in the same order when they go to FRC (proposal day).

Next: Sam and Lisa with Blake on their 2-on-1 date. Focus was on Sam and Blake with Lisa in the background. 

It is why I was inclined to think she was a beard/plant in the whole thing. Or at the very least, scripted/coached. All their scenes seem a bit awkward (physically) in the last episodes as if reshot (I mentioned that many times). I also said this could be to have it look awkward (when it was not) or because that is what it legitimately looked like. 

I did also previously mention that I thought the whole thing could be an experiment with making the leads/front runners into an actual "movie" type theme and the rest of the "cast" amateur actors. I even likened it to The Notebook with the difference being two girls and one guy but in this sense, the Sam and Blake show (honestly, the ENTIRE thing had a theme, starting from the movie about her personal life?)

In one of Blake's interviews he mentions characters (in the media thread, embedded youtube video on Sex during the show.. and NO fantasy Suite/overnight dates) in a garbled way as if he had a bit of a Freudian slip.

Nothing new really if this is the case since I already discussed the possibilities of all of it just, as emusha said, being a rom com... 

Maybe they were all in on it and the blackout was scheduled as well as the social media and favourites we saw scheduled as well to propel the narrative of the dorky, but beautiful girl who falls for the smooth tall dark and handsome guy who prefers brunettes (She's BLONDE? says Blake's aunt)

HAHAHA..  if you go check out my narrative description of the Sam and Blake in the episodes thread, I even broke down the significant moments of Sam and Blake and how there was a literal arc to the story. High school date, group date on yacht (and later single yacht date), and picnic date swinging on a tree. It also makes sense of the whole WHITE ROSE which was absolute rubbish. There was zero chemistry between Blake and Holly. and I called that day one.

Maybe this is the new standard way for regular wannabe actors to make money pretending to be real.


They each gain massive social media followings (which somehow they can 'leak' important details just at the right moment to sway the audience) 


In return, the channel makes lots of money, has media coverage, gets people tuning in and talking about them by using the characters on the show to present their real lives. Because they ARE real. 


The world has changed. We have access to everyone via the internet. And regular people who used to have to go a specific route to get into certain industries can now make a quick 15 minutes of fame and gain a following (there will always be fans of each person).


So, the story (script) is prepared in advance, you have your conflict and whatnot and yet, somehow, the girl next door is the one standing in the end. 

Screen Captures will eventually prove that the entire show is pre-planned with each member... each person playing a role on social media during and after the show airs... and it is all in their contracts. So because of different personalities we get many chances to become a fan of someone and dislike someone else. 

And, they ALL milk it, are given photos to put up by the producers to help the narration because after all, the story is not just taking place on the screen but on social media. It is why OSHER said that he didn't even watch the show he just watched social media.

I think there was a time when it was a bit genuine (gosh THERE is a word we heard AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN) SOO SOO GENUINE!!! hahaha... 


Imagine falling in love on a scripted reality show that wants you to make out with LOTS and LOTS of people. You are contracted to do so and so whether your feelings are real or not, you are living in two worlds. It is why actors fall in and out of love on set all the time. 

I am going to stop now because my logic bell is soundly loudly. 


It is just an entirely scripted show with cheaper actors for hire. And social media is part of the show. Even the individual accounts. Even someone's like Blake where he has NOTHING on his. 


It's the new thing. And media make money off of sleuther's posters like us (I am sure there are posters in this forum who work for the media or are paid to pass info or state things in the forum). 


After all, what is the MO of marketing/pr? "get the people talking"...


Enough said.
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Post by emusha Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:06 pm

AllAboutLove I do agree there are scripted parts but it would be extremely difficult to script the raw emotions we saw...don't you think??

Popsugar has a theory ...like most media outlets by this time esp those not regurgitating the kiiss "exclusive" which could totally be a deliberate LEAK
It ended quite abruptly, and viewers were anxiously awaiting something of a 'twist' as the episode had been hyped up so much. Another reason for the heightened interest in the show, which has experienced higher ratings than last year's series, is Network Ten's media blackout, which prevents Blake, Sam, Lisa and even Louise Pillidge, who was eliminated earlier this week, from conducting any interviews. This has obviously led to a few conspiracies, and these two appear to be the biggest possibilities:

Blake and Sam have already broken up.
Blake and Sam have locked in their exclusive first interview as a couple with a magazine, and no interviews will be conducted until that comes out. (Last year Tim Robards and Anna Heinrich gave their first interview together to Woman's Day, which is on sale on Mondays and would have worked perfectly with the show's original finale day of Sunday. But due to program scheduling changes — it switched from Sunday nights to Wednesday nights — the interview lost some of its exclusivity as Tim and Anna had given interviews as early as the following Thursday.)
http://www.popsugar.com.au/celebrity/Bachelor-Australia-2014-Blake-Sam-Rumours-35859856
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Post by Guest Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:11 pm

I have to think that magazine deal is a plausible explanation. Woman's Day Mag releasing an issue next week on Monday with the couple's ONLY interview... only what??? This sounds off.

http://m.womansday.com.au/entertainment/tv-films-and-books/2014/10/the-bachelor-winner-blake-garvey-proposes-to-sam-frost/

The fact that they're prolonging this statement is annoying. The Ten bosses must be loving it -- countless articles, radio buzzes, top trending on Twitter one night after the finale has aired. The finale had the highest ratings last night but going by Aussie TV, that's really not a hard thing to achieve.


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Post by emusha Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:13 pm

just noticing this part of the Kiis article:

A caller phoned in to say the two broke up on Saturday.


so a caller said they broke up on saturday...the producer said they broke up cos of what sam heard when what she heard isn't so damaging unless it's in the last days PLUS she's been listening to a whole season of blake telling girls beautiful things....some of this sounds like nonesense to me does it to you guys??? reasonably speaking??

also the rumor mill keeps churning -- pregnancy, back with lisa, with jess...too much chaos going on seems someone could be feeding the fire???

the only REAL and big red flag IMO is that he's in Melbourne THAT's a big clue that something big is happening cos he/she need to be in sydney for media and they're not + all the other girls also banned from media now THAT is strange and does seem a bit contrived to drum up attention -- based on jeff there isn't something big happening with the family...

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