General Chit Chat

GuardianAngel wrote:MD!:  That is so neat! haha Stay warm!

stuck :  -6 right now. Even Florida is cold! I'm going to have to look for Plan B if Florida is going to stiff me like that!

I guess I need to look for somewhere closer to the equator.

AEF wrote:Our sleuthing and comments being quoted in New Zealand.

http://thespinoff.co.nz/20-02-2015/is-art-green-really-nzs-first-ever-bachelor-a-spinoff-investigation/

GuardianAngel wrote:Thank you so much The Spinoff for the shout out! Much appreciated!

Thanks AEF for sharing!

Hey guys, this is probably going to be one of my last posts for a while...back at work now...but I'll continue to read and follow with interest.
I'm absolutely 100% sure that Melissa is the F1, regardless of what shenanigans lead up to it. This information is independent of RS's blog or the sc's. It is based on multiple interviews with people who know. RS will never deny it because he knows it too.

I don't know, but if we can calculate how long it is until Jake passes through puberty, that's where I'd lay my money.
Also, just a random thought, but can you resole elevator shoes?...

Rarely is there a solid right or wrong answer. Much of what we talk about is hearsay, which some will not believe no matter how reliable the source. Most of what we express are opinions. We often have public records or photos or other confirming information to back up those opinions, but they are still just opinions.
I can only think of one time when there was a huge battle over something that was purely factual: when some were convinced that Jason and Melissa were absolutely still together, and others believed he really had dumped her and was with Molly.
It was very quiet after the final episodes aired, as everyone was a little stunned to see it actually go down. But I never sensed a reluctance among those who missed the call to admit it, and can't think of one person on this board who gloated. Not at all. Because friends may disagree, but they remain friends.

Jake is going to do what is best for Jake. And even if that means dropping Vienna out of a plane over Sanford, Florida, it will still have been worth it to Vienna because for 8 1/2 minutes, people knew her name.

I'm definitely going to watch it, but I have this terrible feeling that it'll be a Fleiss directed documentary on the making of a reality show, minus the stuff that bothers many of us here -
the contracts these people sign
manipulation by the producers
reading off cue cards
the casting of characters
outlining the story in advance
the real reasons why people leave
liquoring people up until they say something stupid
conduct of people off screen
splicing and editing to create a false impression
pressure to get a proposal
Chris Harrison's disinformation campaign
addressing tabloid stories (the Tanya scandal comes out tomorrow)
how they get away with it
Now if somebody on a competing network had the guts to do THAT story, it would demonstrate true journalistic integrity, and nerves of steel.
But it isn't going to happen on 20/20 (ABC). So in a way, I feel like we're just being manipulated again.

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