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Post by GuardianAngel Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:58 pm

4health wrote:So, to continue our sleuthing, I think the SC of April and Tim kissing (not in Toronto) I think is April on her HTD.  You see that she is wearing a black leather and maroon pants and he is wearing a blue shirt.  

So, we have April being the only one confirmed in Moorea, and a few have suggested how great it would be if he only took one girl and she didn't know she was the only girl.  Why I think that isn't what happened is because we have April confirmed that she comes to Tim and wants to leave.   If he is down to a few girls like F3 in Moorea or F2 or F1 what would make April want to leave, and how would he handle or say to keep her around....does anyone have thoughts on what you could happen.  It would be fun to read everyones creative minds since we have no new SC and only a few left to figure out.  

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Yes we figured it must be her home town date because of the visible sand.

I think April's insecurities, trusting him, trusting the relationship and maybe seeing Tim with other girls might make her frustrated and upset that she maybe feels she should leave.


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Post by 4health Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:27 pm

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4health wrote:So, to continue our sleuthing, I think the SC of April and Tim kissing (not in Toronto) I think is April on her HTD.  You see that she is wearing a black leather and maroon pants and he is wearing a blue shirt.  

So, we have April being the only one confirmed in Moorea, and a few have suggested how great it would be if he only took one girl and she didn't know she was the only girl.  Why I think that isn't what happened is because we have April confirmed that she comes to Tim and wants to leave.   If he is down to a few girls like F3 in Moorea or F2 or F1 what would make April want to leave, and how would he handle or say to keep her around....does anyone have thoughts on what you could happen.  It would be fun to read everyones creative minds since we have no new SC and only a few left to figure out.  

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Yes we figured it must be her home town date because of the visible sand.

I think April's insecurities, trusting him, trusting the relationship and maybe seeing Tim with other girls might make her frustrated and upset that she maybe feels she should leave.

I agree but I guess to make it more clear, when she wants to leave is in Moorea. Fewer girls! So, my thought is we know how Tim has handle two other girls to whom they wanted to leave and his comment back was the same. "If that is what you want or feel is right?" With fewer girls how will Tim handle her thoughts and not give away his true feelings. If it is down to either F3 or F2 he has to say something to console her and if she isn't his F1 how would it play out that he dumps her after encouraging her to stay. So, he is in a hard spot with her and the timing of her insecurities and trust issues. Also, going on someone else's thoughts if she is the only one in Moorea and doesn't know it and she wants to leave will he tell her or will he tell her to hang in there everything will be okay....or will production allow the two of them to just have special time courting just the two of them.....if that is the case then no suspense and the whole reason we watch to the end is who do you see walk up first or walk up to the FRC not knowing they are the last one standing.

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Post by northernviewer Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:58 pm

GuardianAngel wrote:
4health wrote:So, to continue our sleuthing, I think the SC of April and Tim kissing (not in Toronto) I think is April on her HTD.  You see that she is wearing a black leather and maroon pants and he is wearing a blue shirt.  

So, we have April being the only one confirmed in Moorea, and a few have suggested how great it would be if he only took one girl and she didn't know she was the only girl.  Why I think that isn't what happened is because we have April confirmed that she comes to Tim and wants to leave.   If he is down to a few girls like F3 in Moorea or F2 or F1 what would make April want to leave, and how would he handle or say to keep her around....does anyone have thoughts on what you could happen.  It would be fun to read everyones creative minds since we have no new SC and only a few left to figure out.  

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Yes we figured it must be her home town date because of the visible sand.

I think April's insecurities, trusting him, trusting the relationship and maybe seeing Tim with other girls might make her frustrated and upset that she maybe feels she should leave.

I think there's going to be a trust issue that makes her say that she wants to go home. I think it's going to be about her being to afraid to give him to much of herself just in case she's not the one. Her whole story arc has been about trust issues, and her holding back about her story. She let him in a little on their 1/1 but she didn't give up her whole story about her family as of yet.

I'm not sure what's going to happen between HTD's and FRC.... but it's definitely something noteworthy as they keep talking about him changing it all up this season. He's done a few unconventional things so far, but nothing no other Bach or Bach/ette hasn't done, like send people home or go get another rose... that's all been done before. He's going to do something big before the season ends, of that I'm sure. :yes:


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Post by Mr&MrsSmith Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:23 pm

northernviewer wrote:I'm wondering if all those sc's with Tim in that fabric coat were taken during Dom's TO date, and/or had something to do with him having a bad day emotionally and we'll never actually see that footage.

Wow! I agree NV. There was obviously sooooo much more that happened in TO than we got to see. The sky, the light, the trees in the background, all seem to match. Dominique's one on one date with Tim was somehow interrupted and cut short with the arrival of Natalie. It was obviously all filmed, along with what would be the matching ITM's. This scene this cap comes from in particular seems to fit TO, and Tim's clothes that day. Also, it looks to be more than one girl standing in the "facing camera" area.

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I'm a little disappointed they would give us so much manufactured drama, like Nat's return, and the hot rod right outside the window - when clearly there was plenty of real drama.
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Post by 4health Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:00 pm

northernviewer wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
4health wrote:So, to continue our sleuthing, I think the SC of April and Tim kissing (not in Toronto) I think is April on her HTD.  You see that she is wearing a black leather and maroon pants and he is wearing a blue shirt.  

So, we have April being the only one confirmed in Moorea, and a few have suggested how great it would be if he only took one girl and she didn't know she was the only girl.  Why I think that isn't what happened is because we have April confirmed that she comes to Tim and wants to leave.   If he is down to a few girls like F3 in Moorea or F2 or F1 what would make April want to leave, and how would he handle or say to keep her around....does anyone have thoughts on what you could happen.  It would be fun to read everyones creative minds since we have no new SC and only a few left to figure out.  

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Yes we figured it must be her home town date because of the visible sand.

I think April's insecurities, trusting him, trusting the relationship and maybe seeing Tim with other girls might make her frustrated and upset that she maybe feels she should leave.

I think there's going to be a trust issue that makes her say that she wants to go home.  I think it's going to be about her being to afraid to give him to much of herself just in case she's not the one.  Her whole story arc has been about trust issues, and her holding back about her story.  She let him in a little on their 1/1 but she didn't give up her whole story about her family as of yet.  

I'm not sure what's going to happen between HTD's and FRC.... but it's definitely something noteworthy as they keep talking about him changing it all up this season.  He's done a few unconventional things so far, but nothing no other Bach or Bach/ette hasn't done, like send people home or go get another rose... that's all been done before.  He's going to do something big before the season ends, of that I'm sure. :yes:

I agree that it will come down to April's trust issues and being open about herself. What I am asking or want to hear some thoughts, I know we don't know but it would be fun. Also, for some reason with April coming to him and saying I want to go home, what options does Tim have. If he says don't go I want you to stay, I have fallen for you in the hotel room then the FRC will be anti climatic and if she isn't the F1 then Tim will look like a jerk. I mean what is the poor guy to do if this happens and it's down to F3 or F2 WHAT to do? UGH

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Post by Aunties_Love Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:21 pm

northernviewer wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
4health wrote:So, to continue our sleuthing, I think the SC of April and Tim kissing (not in Toronto) I think is April on her HTD.  You see that she is wearing a black leather and maroon pants and he is wearing a blue shirt.  

So, we have April being the only one confirmed in Moorea, and a few have suggested how great it would be if he only took one girl and she didn't know she was the only girl.  Why I think that isn't what happened is because we have April confirmed that she comes to Tim and wants to leave.   If he is down to a few girls like F3 in Moorea or F2 or F1 what would make April want to leave, and how would he handle or say to keep her around....does anyone have thoughts on what you could happen.  It would be fun to read everyones creative minds since we have no new SC and only a few left to figure out.  

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Yes we figured it must be her home town date because of the visible sand.

I think April's insecurities, trusting him, trusting the relationship and maybe seeing Tim with other girls might make her frustrated and upset that she maybe feels she should leave.

I think there's going to be a trust issue that makes her say that she wants to go home.  I think it's going to be about her being to afraid to give him to much of herself just in case she's not the one.  Her whole story arc has been about trust issues, and her holding back about her story.  She let him in a little on their 1/1 but she didn't give up her whole story about her family as of yet.  

I'm not sure what's going to happen between HTD's and FRC.... but it's definitely something noteworthy as they keep talking about him changing it all up this season.  He's done a few unconventional things so far, but nothing no other Bach or Bach/ette hasn't done, like send people home or go get another rose... that's all been done before.  He's going to do something big before the season ends, of that I'm sure. :yes:
I know that it's easy to say it's all been done before but one thing that really needs to be remembered is that this IS a different series, different producers, different production so in light of that, No, not everything has been done before. SO I think what they are getting at is that this season may/will be different than last.


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Post by northernviewer Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:31 pm

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Yes we figured it must be her home town date because of the visible sand.

I think April's insecurities, trusting him, trusting the relationship and maybe seeing Tim with other girls might make her frustrated and upset that she maybe feels she should leave.

I think there's going to be a trust issue that makes her say that she wants to go home.  I think it's going to be about her being to afraid to give him to much of herself just in case she's not the one.  Her whole story arc has been about trust issues, and her holding back about her story.  She let him in a little on their 1/1 but she didn't give up her whole story about her family as of yet.  

I'm not sure what's going to happen between HTD's and FRC.... but it's definitely something noteworthy as they keep talking about him changing it all up this season.  He's done a few unconventional things so far, but nothing no other Bach or Bach/ette hasn't done, like send people home or go get another rose... that's all been done before.  He's going to do something big before the season ends, of that I'm sure. :yes:
I know that it's easy to say it's all been done before but one thing that really needs to be remembered is that this IS a different series, different producers, different production so in light of that, No, not everything has been done before.  SO I think what they are getting at is that this season may/will be different than last.

I don't think so.... the way I understood it was like it was in a much broader sense, like they're talking franchise history, not just different from a single season 2 years ago.


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Post by northernviewer Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:35 pm

Mr&MrsSmith wrote:
northernviewer wrote:I'm wondering if all those sc's with Tim in that fabric coat were taken during Dom's TO date, and/or had something to do with him having a bad day emotionally and we'll never actually see that footage.

Wow! I agree NV. There was obviously sooooo much more that happened in TO than we got to see. The sky, the light, the trees in the background, all seem to match. Dominique's one on one date with Tim was somehow interrupted and cut short with the arrival of Natalie. It was obviously all filmed, along with what would be the matching ITM's. This scene this cap comes from in particular seems to fit TO, and Tim's clothes that day. Also, it looks to be more than one girl standing in the "facing camera" area.

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I'm a little disappointed they would give us so much manufactured drama, like Nat's return, and the hot rod right outside the window - when clearly there was plenty of real drama.


The more I look at that photo above, the more I see April. Could his clothes just look lighter due to the sun shining on them? I know Tim wore a brownish leather jacket on his date with April, but I'm just rewatching the episode now, and in some shots of their date when they're outside, his coat looks greyish and his pants much lighter.... all depending on the lighting. Could the above cap be April holding that light blue/grey backback on her shoulder and Tim is running up to interrupt a PI to introduce his buddy or something?? so much happened that day and the day Nat arrived and Dom left, that this sc could be part of that footage..... but my gut tells me that sc has something to do with April :yes:


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Post by GuardianAngel Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:39 pm

northernviewer wrote:
The more I look at that photo above, the more I see April.  Could his clothes just look lighter due to the sun shining on them?  I know Tim wore a brownish leather jacket on his date with April, but I'm just rewatching the episode now, and in some shots of their date when they're outside, his coat looks greyish and his pants much lighter.... all depending on the lighting.  Could the above cap be April holding that light blue/grey backback on her shoulder and Tim is running up to interrupt a PI to introduce his buddy or something?? so much happened that day and the day Nat arrived and Dom left, that this sc could be part of that footage..... but my gut tells me that sc has something to do with April   :yes:

I always thought it was April too because of her legs. Now that I look at it again, it looks like she has the same boots on as she did on the bike ride. Do we know if any other girls had the boots up to the knees?


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Post by 4health Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:39 pm

northernviewer wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
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I think there's going to be a trust issue that makes her say that she wants to go home.  I think it's going to be about her being to afraid to give him to much of herself just in case she's not the one.  Her whole story arc has been about trust issues, and her holding back about her story.  She let him in a little on their 1/1 but she didn't give up her whole story about her family as of yet.  

I'm not sure what's going to happen between HTD's and FRC.... but it's definitely something noteworthy as they keep talking about him changing it all up this season.  He's done a few unconventional things so far, but nothing no other Bach or Bach/ette hasn't done, like send people home or go get another rose... that's all been done before.  He's going to do something big before the season ends, of that I'm sure. :yes:
I know that it's easy to say it's all been done before but one thing that really needs to be remembered is that this IS a different series, different producers, different production so in light of that, No, not everything has been done before.  SO I think what they are getting at is that this season may/will be different than last.

I don't think so.... the way I understood it was like it was in a much broader sense, like they're talking franchise history, not just different from a single season 2 years ago.

What article or interview makes you say that northern? Tim hasn't watched any season. He doesn't watch much TV via his BT interview and he is just going off of what someone has told him that it will be different. But, in a whole the bachelor franchise always say it is dramatic, when it wasn't, it is a surprise when it isn't. Especially for us sleuthers.

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Post by Mr&MrsSmith Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:45 pm

northernviewer wrote:
Mr&MrsSmith wrote:
northernviewer wrote:I'm wondering if all those sc's with Tim in that fabric coat were taken during Dom's TO date, and/or had something to do with him having a bad day emotionally and we'll never actually see that footage.

Wow! I agree NV. There was obviously sooooo much more that happened in TO than we got to see. The sky, the light, the trees in the background, all seem to match. Dominique's one on one date with Tim was somehow interrupted and cut short with the arrival of Natalie. It was obviously all filmed, along with what would be the matching ITM's. This scene this cap comes from in particular seems to fit TO, and Tim's clothes that day. Also, it looks to be more than one girl standing in the "facing camera" area.

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I'm a little disappointed they would give us so much manufactured drama, like Nat's return, and the hot rod right outside the window - when clearly there was plenty of real drama.


The more I look at that photo above, the more I see April.  Could his clothes just look lighter due to the sun shining on them?  I know Tim wore a brownish leather jacket on his date with April, but I'm just rewatching the episode now, and in some shots of their date when they're outside, his coat looks greyish and his pants much lighter.... all depending on the lighting.  Could the above cap be April holding that light blue/grey backback on her shoulder and Tim is running up to interrupt a PI to introduce his buddy or something?? so much happened that day and the day Nat arrived and Dom left, that this sc could be part of that footage..... but my gut tells me that sc has something to do with April   :yes:

I wondered the same thing! She said in her blog that initially meeting his bff was not welcome! That she felt it was right up there with meeting family, so maybe she initially said no to him as far as meeting his friend, but then changed her mind. I can't see him crying over anything that's not to do with April either! All looks to be the same day to me. There are shots of Tim alone on his motorcycle before the April date which looks to me like he goes right by the road behind all the trees in the film crew cap. I smells a rat!
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