BACHELOR 19 - CHRIS SOULES -**NO SPOILERS* - *SLEUTHING* - *ScreenCaps* - DISCUSSION

Quick check in before I get back to RL. I got some direction from GA in PMs regarding how we can gather information without getting spoiled. We can request the info down here and then anyone who sees it can either get us the post...say for example, CH's blog or Chris Soules's People mag blog.

Do we want the episode descriptions from ABC media net? I kind of do if it's okay with the rest of you guys. Those I believe come out the week prior to the airing of the episode...so week 2 should be available. Do we want it? It might help us identify caps and locations -- where the caps fall in the scheme of things.

I sense the Cinderella date is happening in LA due to the setting. I don't see that type of hotel in the Badlands, etc...possibly in Rapid City. I was there years ago, but we didn't really explore the city. Maybe it could be in Phoenix if they are at the Grand Canyon, although I believe it's about a 4-4.5 hour drive. They could fly, I guess. Anyway, you get my point. We could start ticking off the insignificant caps of the preview and grouping them together by episode. The episode descriptions would help with this. So again, do we want those brought down here for us? I'll go with the consensus.

So with that in mind, I received information regarding the Big & Rich concert. It was on October 19 in Deadwood, South Dakota. Thank you to the person who sent me this. She offered, in effect, to take the place of having my husband google it for me. Since I didn't get permission to identify you, I won't...just in case you'd rather I didn't. But again, thanks very much!

I was just thinking how much easier it would be to discuss SCs if we could separate them by episode/location. I am fine with getting episode description so we have an idea of where they are. It would be easier to sleuth the caps we have.

I say yes to the blogs etc as it's part of the sleuthing process.

^^Great! So with that in mind, GA could we get a media thread created for this section?

To anyone from the dark side who is willing, once we have this thread, could you post CH's blog, Chris S's blog and the episode descriptions from abcmedianet.com (I think that's the site)? TIA!

I created the media thread, but there are a few that I brought over. Maybe I should make that one No Discussion, and a new one where discussions can take place and you can move over what you want to discuss?

^^That would be great. Thanks so much, GA!

Ok new thread created.

Litta123 wrote:^^Oh, wow! That's really interesting, nv. There sure is a lot of similarity in those cover ups. Wow, wow, wow! Maybe I should put Jade back into the mix as a possibility for the girl on the bridge. That certainly gives me food for thought.

Just playing devil's advocate...could it be that cover-ups were given to the girls as part of the "gift package" they all receive? How do we reconcile this with GG's findings above? Hmmm...

was just watching the M&G again, and those strappy shoes that we see, those are the same ones that Jade had on when getting out of the limo the first night... so I think that we can say without a doubt... that the girl that Chris seems to have undressed, is Jade!!

if we can figure out where she is doing that PI that's on the preceding page... it could help us to see how far she goes, at least.

It's possible that we might be able to link the curtains from the PI to the mansion. I know from last season that I have caps with white/cream curtains with a black design...not that design exactly, but geometric in nature. I want to watch the episode one more time before Monday. I'll keep an eye out for these.

Also I zoomed in on the pillow in the cap above. I'm beginning to wonder if those pillows match the mansion pool pillows. Since Chris is staying within walking distance, I wonder if he gets some extra time hanging out at the pool. Then again, it seems like a little over the top behavior for an early date or special extra time. Has Chris been going through a dry spell relationally? Are TPTB going to play up the fact that the are hardly any women out in the farmland...so Chris has kind of a teenage boy reaction to all these beautiful women. Ugh, I hope not.

Anyway, here's the close up of the pillow pattern. Does anyone recognize it as being from the mansion?

I starting searching through my files for mansion pillows. I found this...



Yes, I know the pillows don't match...it's a gratuitous Marcus shot...so sue me! Okay, back to my files.

ETA: I looked through all my caps from Andi's and Juan Pablo's seasons. There are no pillows that match the ones above in my files. However, I am more convinced than ever that the final girls will show up in the season's preview. For me personally, I am going to be focused on those girls only as being the possible F6. Obviously, there were more than 6 girls shown in the preview; but if the girl is barely shown, I think she's a MOT girl.

So I'm clear, I consider Becca to be a girl who is shown A LOT in the preview. She is hidden so we don't always realize it's her, but her presence is very much there if you saw the caps I made when I presented her as the possible F1.

I still need to re-watch the preview to see if I've got all the blondes and brunettes identified who show up in more than one or two frames. I'll post my results later. Maybe this is faulty thinking on my part, and if so, I'd like to hear why. I'm always open to other opinions. I welcome being challenged and don't/won't take it personally. I like a reasoned discussion...so please, poke away at my theories. Even if you're spoiled, I think you can shoot down my assumptions without revealing the spoilers. I'm very far from being an expert on this show. As always, to be continued...

Found a key shot of Jade sobbing after... ? What? Chris turns her down from getting too frisky? She is wearing more clothes than photoshopped above. (Ugh! Those sleezy editors making the scene look worse than it is!)

Go past the line "more tears"





A couple other interesting shots here...

Kelsey (?, short hair) dancing with him at a distance. Harps in front as music plays.

Lavender shirt Chris kissing Kaitlyn that matches one in the primary seasonal promo: when asked (probably a frankenbyte from Kelsey) "Do you trust me?" and he responds "Yeah I do". This shot appears during his line of "I really do believe I can find that special someone". It would be interesting to determine this location... solo date or fantasy date. Amusingly Kaitlyn is the first shown out of the limos in this promo ("hello hello") and is shown from the back greeting him just before his five or so "whoos"... followed by Harrison's smack on the face.

Also a shot of Britt (?) upset with him, sporting all of the microphone gear on his back. (If that is really Chris and not Juan Pablo having a cameo.) No clue what is going on there.

Anyone think that these could be from the FD location (Bali)? Chris's outfit indicates a warm temperature to me. He's not dress up enough for a typical RC. I don't think they have too many dates that occur in a warm climate especially after dark. I would think even AZ gets cool at night being that it's a desert area...assuming they're there for the Grand Canyon...which we haven't established, but the pics look like it to me.

Anyway, I suppose it could be at the mansion where's he's just hanging out with extra special time since he lives close by, but would he be warm enough at night? Look at the second cap the girl looks to be wearing a dress with only straps...so it has to be warm enough in my mind. Thus I'm leaning towards this being the FD with the brunette -- our BKG.

If so, I think it's more evidence that it's Kaitlyn due to the wispy hair. Maybe it could be Jade. I do see a somewhat reddish tone, but that could be a result of me playing with the photo editor. I have a harder time seeing Britt here, but maybe. However, Britt's hair seems fuller, healthier to me...so I'm really not able to see her as this girl.

 



Here's a close up of the back of the girl's head from the cap above. Not only can you see her black strap, but you see her hair forward off her back. This happens a lot with Kaitlyn. I'll show this later with other caps.



Here's one more similar frame from the preview.



Here are shots of the back of Kaitlyn's head from other caps in the preview.



This is Kaitlyn because of the arm tattoos.



More reasons why I think the BKG is Kaitlyn. I played with different filters on a close up of the BKG to see if I could separate the vines in the background from the hair. One result is below the original cap. Notice BKG is wearing a black shirt. Try to see it's outline in the original cap and then in the close up. I outlined the girl's hair. I think it drapes forward over her shoulders to her breasts. Thus the long dangling light colored things are vines in my mind. So the bottom line, I'm seeing Kaitlyn.