Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - Fan Forum - Updates - Discussion - Thread #10

[SueSt]

Whoever he dates, I hope this remains a NICK fan thread. I remember 1 Effie and his dates and some of it was just too over the top with the girl crushing.

Nick is a totally different guy than 1F; 1F seemed very caught up in the publicity and celebrity.

I think Nick is looking to live a meaningful life (as evidenced by, among other things, his step away from reality tv) and will take his time and use his brains to choose an appropriate mate...

And when that happens, assuming we trust Nick to make clear and correct choices for his life, I think it’s less likely that there will be girl crushing and more likely that there will be support … at least I hope so!

[MVMom39forever]

Whoever he dates, I hope this remains a NICK fan thread. I remember 1 Effie and his dates and some of it was just too over the top with the girl crushing.

Nick is a totally different guy than 1F; 1F seemed very caught up in the publicity and celebrity.  

I think Nick is looking to live a meaningful life (as evidenced by, among other things, his step away from reality tv) and will take his time and use his brains to choose an appropriate mate...

And when that happens, assuming we trust Nick to make clear and correct choices for his life, I think it’s less likely that there will be girl crushing and more likely that there will be support … at least I hope so!

Yes! Totally different guys ... and I am going to bet that Nick won't be knocking on the doors of sorority houses looking for his next date. Nick also has an actual job so he's probably not going to be hopping across the country/world on a whim.

Thanks for the photos! I've been peaking in all weekend.

[notarose]

Worry not all...i am going with Nick to Sam Smith ;)

great!! take a tonz of selfie with him, will you? *wink wink*

Maybe he will go with Nick S or JJ?  I used to go to concerts with female friends all the time when I was single.

   ... the plot thickens.

Process of elimination: in a past interview Sharleen mentioned she has a contract to perform in China in the autumn of 2014 so she's probably out.  
I think he should raise money for charity by raffle off the second ticket.  Start a feeding frenzy   

why had you too often got into my mind, NR?

i was just about to throw in a possibility of #OperationPandas in the works. .. bummer!   

 :WAVEY: Mura The article didn't say what month she would be gone so there is always a sliver of hope for your #operationPandas     I actually adore both Sharleen and Nick and wouldn't be in the slightest bit jealous if these two were spotted together.  Elan is no help at all!  He should be meddling and set up a blind date.  

 :WAVEY: Sue Great new manly Nick avi. Rrrrr!    Please post often so we can see your avi as much as possible.

I don't think our man Nick is prone to jumping into things.  It does seem that "Stag" may have contacted Nick for the event below which Nick is not appearing at.

From Micheal Stag
@viallnicholas28 please DM me about a paid appearance in Sept. Thanks! - 28 Jul 14

From Eligible Mag (Toronto)
We are excited to announce that @chrisjbukowski, @GrahamBunn,@ZackKalter & @RobertGraham24 will be at this year's#TIFFBachelorParty!
- 11 Aug 14

Micheal Stag is hosting.
http://www.eventbrite.com/directory?q=party+girls&loc=Toronto%2C+CA

[nutty1]

Interesting that these events are paid. I wonder what they get?

[Catdwoman50]

Deep breaths, girls...

OMG. Can I just wake up to this every morning?

[Guest]

Worry not all...i am going with Nick to Sam Smith ;)

great!! take a tonz of selfie with him, will you? *wink wink*

   ... the plot thickens.

Process of elimination: in a past interview Sharleen mentioned she has a contract to perform in China in the autumn of 2014 so she's probably out.  
I think he should raise money for charity by raffle off the second ticket.  Start a feeding frenzy   

why had you too often got into my mind, NR?

i was just about to throw in a possibility of #OperationPandas in the works. .. bummer!   

 :WAVEY: Mura The article didn't say what month she would be gone so there is always a sliver of hope for your #operationPandas     I actually adore both Sharleen and Nick and wouldn't be in the slightest bit jealous if these two were spotted together.  Elan is no help at all!  He should be meddling and set up a blind date.  

LOL...IKR??.....me too...  . Good idea! i think we could ask for his help as a matchmaker Godfather for #TeamOperationPandas    

[Catdwoman50]

I had to come out of lurkdom to address this point. It seems many people think of Andi as the victim due to Nick saying what he did. I'm sure Andi herself thinks she's the victim. However, I and many others think Nick is the victim in this whole scenario, and him saying something he maybe shouldn't have doesn't justify Andi's conduct during and after the season. Nick might have misbehaved, but he's still the victim. Andi did all in her power (she's not allowed to say "I love you" to anyone, so not saying it is no excuse) to encourage Nick's feelings towards her, even said "I wish I could say things back" to him and went as far as sleeping with him, despite having stronger feelings for Josh. Being scared Josh might leave, even after him giving her those ten roses and talking about proposing, doesn't really excuse playing with Nick's feelings to that extent. And even if it did, treating him like a homeless person asking for change at the side of the road, instead of a man she was considering spending the rest of her life with, makes her seem very immature and bratty. I think she started thinking of herself as the victim the moment Nick accused her of taking things too far, because walking away from his hotel her body language said "Whatever, I'm over it, I'll just focus on Josh now". And that's how she's been ever since. Well guess what Andi, if it's part of your "job" to break someone's heart, then it's also part of your job to face them at ATFR. She had all the time in the world to prepare for that. She even knew what was on his mind still, because he wrote her that letter. Yet she acted like talking to him was a total nuisance and she'd rather just gush about Josh and their eternal love. And I'm not just reading too much into her demeanor, she herself has said in several interviews, the radio thing the other day included, that they were over it all two months ago and thought there was no point rehashing anything. That's just incredibly self-absorbed IMO. Just because she and Josh were over it and happy in love, doesn't mean Nick was as lucky. While they were reliving their love story week after week, Nick was reliving his heartbreak and wondering if he'd imagined everything. The least she could do is show a bit of compassion for him and give him some honest answers. Yet getting any sort of emotion out of her was like pulling teeth out. Then she said she was never in love with Nick and implied he should have known since she didn't say it, as if she was even allowed to. She also said that if she had to do it all over again, she'd still have the same "great" relationship with Nick, as if there's nothing she did wrong or should've done differently. I can totally understand Nick thinking at that point that she had no regard for his feelings, because it really was all about her and her feelings. That's what he voiced with the unfortunate question. His bafflement over how cavalier she was with his feelings. I'm sure her selfishness was a shock to him, because it was to me too. And I really tried liking her all season long, even sided with her on the Eric thing, though the talk with CH after made me uncomfortable, because it was also all about her instead of the man who died.

But her misconduct didn't end at the ATFR. In the interviews that followed she basically scoffed at Nick all "whatever, he's a jerk, we're so over it". Then she favoured several nasty tweets about him, one even saying he was just acting, which she would have to be willfully blind to think. Even after everything, she still didn't even try to see things from his point of view. Not a single thought was given to the possibility that she might've have lead him on a bit too much. Oh no, Andi does NO WRONG. Nick is a bad guy, who showed his true colours by embarrassing poor innocent Andi. Which still begs the question "If there was nothing wrong with Andi having sex with Nick and it was even expected, then why is it a crime to mention it?". I'm still not clear on what the answer to that is, except "That's just not something polite men do". Yeah, so maybe it wasn't polite, but it's hardly a crime, especially considering the circumstances. Even if no one besides Nick knew she had sex with him, it doesn't change the fact that she did, so if someone thinks that makes her a sl** then it's got nothing to do with Nick. IMO, it was clearly not Nick's intention to shame her, he just posed a valid question in the heat of the moment. However, aside from hoping she'd been more careful with his heart (which is a valid criticism), he's had nothing but nice things to say about Andi and Josh post-show and he's wished them all the happiness in the world. Compare that to Andi and Josh acting like Nick is scum they just want to brush under the carpet. Who do you think is more mature? That radio interview really didn't make me any more sympathetic towards them. The female host kept calling Nick "creepy Nick" and they were still of the opinion that he should've remained forgotten, since they're over him and so happy now. Damn Nick for still existing and having feelings after he was dumped. And Andi making some comment about Josh bashing Nick's skull in, had he been in contact with him at ATFR? Yeah, violence is so funny! If you're in high school.  

I wonder what blogs Andi was referring to when she said she cried her eyes out over the comments. Sharleen's blog? I sure hope not, because even though 90% of the comments there were pro-Nick, no one was bashing Andi. All the commentators raised valid points in a respectful manner. If that made Andi cry then that was a cry she needed. We all need to learn to deal with constructive criticism at some point in our lives. Not sure about the comments on Sean's blog, since I didn't read those. I can understand being upset by the nasty name-calling on Twitter and such, but a confident person would realize it says more about the people doing it than it does about you. I really hope she doesn't lump everyone defending Nick in the same 'I don't care what they say, they're idiots' category.

Kudos mindless, I couldn't have said it better.  Especially the bolded.

[Catdwoman50]

great!! take a tonz of selfie with him, will you? *wink wink*



why had you too often got into my mind, NR?

i was just about to throw in a possibility of #OperationPandas in the works. .. bummer!   

 :WAVEY: Mura The article didn't say what month she would be gone so there is always a sliver of hope for your #operationPandas     I actually adore both Sharleen and Nick and wouldn't be in the slightest bit jealous if these two were spotted together.  Elan is no help at all!  He should be meddling and set up a blind date.  

LOL...IKR??.....me too...  . Good idea! i think we could ask for his help as a matchmaker Godfather for #TeamOperationPandas    

Will travel to China just to make this work - count me in. Alright ladies (and gents?), I'm all caught up from the weekend posts - now to go on to the other Nick/Andi threads (jaws music).

[Guest]

 :WAVEY: Mura The article didn't say what month she would be gone so there is always a sliver of hope for your #operationPandas     I actually adore both Sharleen and Nick and wouldn't be in the slightest bit jealous if these two were spotted together.  Elan is no help at all!  He should be meddling and set up a blind date.  

LOL...IKR??.....me too...  . Good idea! i think we could ask for his help as a matchmaker Godfather for #TeamOperationPandas    

Will travel to China just to make this work - count me in.  Alright ladies (and gents?), I'm all caught up from the weekend posts - now to go on to the other Nick/Andi threads (jaws music).

   i am always amazed of the panther Ladies around here...as opposed to my self-proclaimed pussy cat-self    :P  

[Catdwoman50]

^^ Haha, Mura I thought you are a panther too. (I'm admitting to be a cougar crushing on Nick - eeek!) Anyways, nothing much happening on the other threads that you, Cecilia, or stuckinSC haven't already handled. I'd like to stir the pot on Andi crying on responses "about her" Again, self-absorbed much? Oh well don't have lot of time today. 2 weeks b4 school starts and travel soccer season starting, make it hard to be vigilant on these threads.

[notarose]

#MCM Nicholas eye candy throwback #fantasysweet   







"....ooooo, yea..ah"

[Guest]

My point was missed. It didn't have anything to do with what Nick would do. It had more to do with how people react to certain things. Basically fangirling over who their favorite dates. I am being very careful with how I word it so I don't get banned. Nick is so different than Effie. I wasn't saying he was like him or would date the same type of girls. I am reading my original post and still scratching my head at why it was taken out of context.

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