Bachelor In Paradise - Episode 2 August 11 2014 - General Discussion - *Spoilers*

Beeleever wrote:I do feel bad for Robert, but it's hard when Marcus and Lacy are sooo stinking cute together!

Here's my take on it....

Lacy was initially attracted to both Robert and Marcus, and she was fairly open and honest about it.  She told the women this during a conversation, and she told Robert this when they spoke after his date with Claire. She specifically told Robert that the TWO guys she was interested in went on dates with other women. IMO, Robert has been forewarned that Lacy's heart doesn't belong 100% (or is that 120%?) to him.

Robert appears to be ready, willing, and happy to be affectionate with Lacy right off of the bat.  And she with him. There was a mutual attraction there.

Marcus, ripe off of his Andi rejection, is still healing his heart.  You can see it in his demeanor, face, and comments.  He started out on the first episode NOT ready, willing, or able to put his heart out there, and because of this, he isn't trying to be affectionate with Lacy or Sarah. The only reason he kissed Sarah is because she asked him to.  You can hear it in his voice...he is still sad, he doesn't trust his own judgment, he doesn't like the risk that Lacy might chose the other guy (like Andi did), the wound is still too raw. You can see in his body language that he isn't being forward with anyone.  He is "conversating" and getting to know the men and the women.  

I think that in Lacy's conversations with Marcus, she has gotten a glimpse of his soft spoken, sweet personality.  She's seeing that he was heart broken and that he is a bit afraid to go all in.  If you watch Lacy's demeanor AFTER she has her dinner date with Robert (when they are going into the ocean), she doesn't look excited at all.  She kind of looks like she is going through the motions.  Then, the following evening she and Robert talk on the outdoor couch about how they haven't spoken all day since their date the night before.  Watch her body language, the swinging nervous leg, the lack of flirtateousness.  IF Lacy was totally gaga over Robert after having their dinner date, wouldn't you think she would have been canoodling with him all the next day?  But she wasn't.  She wasn't even speaking with him.

I think Lacy started off liking both Robert and Marcus, and Robert was reciprocating her feelings, being affectionate, kissing her.  Marcus wasn't.  Marcus was the long shot.  She wasn't getting enough feedback from Marcus to know if he liked her or not.  The one thing Lacy did not want to happen was to be sent home early.  So, she was safer investing in Robert.....until Marcus opened up enough for her to see that he was holding back because he was wounded by Andi and not because he didn't have an interest in Lacy. When Marcus gave Lacy the rose at the RC, it was the green light Lacy had been waiting for.  She knew that even if Marcus wasn't throwing himself at her or being physically assertive with her, that if she took the time to break down Marcus' walls that she'd have a shot with him.  He proved he was interested by stepping up and giving her a rose before Robert could.  That is the door opening.

Hopefully, Lacy will be diplomatic and thoughtful of Robert's feelings.  She had been affectionate with him from the first day, so I can see why he'd have his hopes up.  All she really needs to do is be honest and tell Robert that she has feelings for Marcus and wants time to explore them. It doesn't have to be horribly awkward if it is handled well.

MiaHawk wrote:

Beeleever wrote:I do feel bad for Robert, but it's hard when Marcus and Lacy are sooo stinking cute together!

Here's my take on it....

Lacy was initially attracted to both Robert and Marcus, and she was fairly open and honest about it.  She told the women this during a conversation, and she told Robert this when they spoke after his date with Claire. She specifically told Robert that the TWO guys she was interested in went on dates with other women. IMO, Robert has been forewarned that Lacy's heart doesn't belong 100% (or is that 120%?) to him.

Robert appears to be ready, willing, and happy to be affectionate with Lacy right off of the bat.  And she with him. There was a mutual attraction there.

Marcus, ripe off of his Andi rejection, is still healing his heart.  You can see it in his demeanor, face, and comments.  He started out on the first episode NOT ready, willing, or able to put his heart out there, and because of this, he isn't trying to be affectionate with Lacy or Sarah. The only reason he kissed Sarah is because she asked him to.  You can hear it in his voice...he is still sad, he doesn't trust his own judgment, he doesn't like the risk that Lacy might chose the other guy (like Andi did), the wound is still too raw. You can see in his body language that he isn't being forward with anyone.  He is "conversating" and getting to know the men and the women.  

I think that in Lacy's conversations with Marcus, she has gotten a glimpse of his soft spoken, sweet personality.  She's seeing that he was heart broken and that he is a bit afraid to go all in.  If you watch Lacy's demeanor AFTER she has her dinner date with Robert (when they are going into the ocean), she doesn't look excited at all.  She kind of looks like she is going through the motions.  Then, the following evening she and Robert talk on the outdoor couch about how they haven't spoken all day since their date the night before.  Watch her body language, the swinging nervous leg, the lack of flirtateousness.  IF Lacy was totally gaga over Robert after having their dinner date, wouldn't you think she would have been canoodling with him all the next day?  But she wasn't.  She wasn't even speaking with him.

I think Lacy started off liking both Robert and Marcus, and Robert was reciprocating her feelings, being affectionate, kissing her.  Marcus wasn't.  Marcus was the long shot.  She wasn't getting enough feedback from Marcus to know if he liked her or not.  The one thing Lacy did not want to happen was to be sent home early.  So, she was safer investing in Robert.....until Marcus opened up enough for her to see that he was holding back because he was wounded by Andi and not because he didn't have an interest in Lacy. When Marcus gave Lacy the rose at the RC, it was the green light Lacy had been waiting for.  She knew that even if Marcus wasn't throwing himself at her or being physically assertive with her, that if she took the time to break down Marcus' walls that she'd have a shot with him.  He proved he was interested by stepping up and giving her a rose before Robert could.  That is the door opening.

Hopefully, Lacy will be diplomatic and thoughtful of Robert's feelings.  She had been affectionate with him from the first day, so I can see why he'd have his hopes up.  All she really needs to do is be honest and tell Robert that she has feelings for Marcus and wants time to explore them. It doesn't have to be horribly awkward if it is handled well.

Mia, great post. I hope she just says a very simple, I am sorry, I just think I feel more with Marcus. I think being honest with her feelings will allow them all to move forward without any problems.

And then there was this...Lacy is walking with Robert and starring like a smitten kitten at Marcus. I think this is what gave Marcus the green light to offer her the rose. IMHO.

7 EPISODES.

at Daniella in the background.... Her disinterested, IDGAF-look is why she probably did not get a rose. :=)

chloep wrote: at Daniella in the background.... Her disinterested, IDGAF-look is why she probably did not get a rose. :=)

I just wish that Daniella and her snark had gotten the rose instead of Sarah. But yeah, I don't think she was feeling any of the guys.

chloep wrote: at Daniella in the background.... Her disinterested, IDGAF-look is why she probably did not get a rose. :=)

IKR? Daniella's look is priceless.

New pictures are on abcmedianet.

1funnyfish wrote:New pictures are on abcmedianet.

GA, can you bring them over? Pretty please?   

Beeleever wrote:

1funnyfish wrote:New pictures are on abcmedianet.

GA, can you bring them over? Pretty please?   

I can only see the very small pics. I don't have a p/word to get the larger pics.

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GuardianAngel wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

1funnyfish wrote:New pictures are on abcmedianet.

GA, can you bring them over? Pretty please?   

I can only see the very small pics. I don't have a p/word to get the larger pics.

ABC media

Okay...me too! And my old eyes can't see a thing in those tiny little pics!  

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