Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - Fan Forum - Updates - Discussion - Thread #9

[Pia1]

Sharing the love;keeping it real.

     
Just when I thought he couldn't get any better, he proved me wrong!!!
Oh, Nick, I am torn!! I don't want you to be a puppet for MF, but I love to see you more. What should I do??

I feel the same way! I want him to go back to his normal life but I also want to see him on my TV screen. I don't really know what it's like being single out there these days but my impression is that it must be hard to meet single people. As much as I hate for him to do TB, the show does provide the opportunity to meet single women from different walks of life and in such a short period of time. And it has worked for some people. He's 33 and really seems to be ready to get married. I would be happy to know that he's found the one he can pour all his love to and living a happy life.

[SueSt]

I don't think she missed the mark.  Andi's her friend and she acknowledged that she didn't think Nick meant it to hurt her, but it ended up hurting her anyway because it is on national tv and all this media.  Even Nick has acknowledged he should have been more delicate in 5 interviews.

I see your points; however, their entire relationship with on tv. Where is the line that you don't cross when you're on tv. Their night in the FS was part of their story.

Without going back and watching the interviews, I'm pretty sure he said I wish I would have... not 'should.' Subtle difference.

Nick didn't have an opportunity to speak with her about his heartache, and certainly it would be better if he could have spoken with her in private... but I don't condemn him for using the literally 2 minutes he had to make his point. Given the circumstances, including Nick being so unnerved by Andi's demeanor, I don't think subtlety or being delicate would have been as effective to communicate the depth of his heartbreak and Andi's betrayal.

[SueSt]

another link of GMA interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyObqkzhzL4

Thanks for posting, Happy.
  Is that fan Brian Williams in the background!!???

[isittrue]

Maybe we should start compiling clues as to whether Nick might be the next Bachelor:

Reasons for Yes:
1) Upswing in edit over the last few episodes
2) All the media interviews over the last few days
3) Arguably the star of the season
4) Shirtless pictures posted on instragram (Mura used this as a clue for Josh being bachelor when he posted some before finale aired)
5) MF tweet open mind and heart
6) Jordyn Rose - poster whose source said Josh was F2 and the next Bachelor - could her source mislead her in that Nick is the F2 and the next Bachelor
7) Public clamoring for it on SM
8) Nick not outright dismissing the idea - has to talk with family, has closure now with Andi etc, sees the process can work
9) Promotion of the show on SM entire season - greatest experience, never forget, etc.

Reasons for Not being a candidate

1) Chloe says her source says Nick is not in consideration and is not interested. Plus family likes Sharleen (although would Sharleen go on the show like other past contestants to meet Nick)
2) Nick is too polarizing and they need to stay with a possible safer candidate after the Juan Pablo fiasco
3) Nick's negative edit - including guys speculating he was not there for the right reasons
4) Nick still mending over Andi and taking his time getting back into dating.
5) public backlash would question his sincerity and his slip-up at ATFR as being calculated

I dunno - I am starting to get worried that Nick may be in fact in consideration. As much as I like watching him and would watch his show, I worry like other broken-hearted F2 (Jason and Ben) he would get a negative edit and it would put him in the position to lead women on and I really like to think that he would not enjoy that process.

I personally have hopes for Ari - who I never watched on Emily's season - since I find him hotter than Chris and I have no personal feelings for either of them - to do the show.

Please Nick don't accept the apple that MF may be offering and go back to your normal life. You will have no trouble finding that special someone away from the tv cameras.

[stuckinsc]

Hi guys!   I just registered to join the forum but been lurking for a long time.  Like some people here, despite the knowledge of RS' spoiler, I saw what I thought was a love story between Andi and Nick so I thought MF was that smart to play a ruse and it will be Nick who will be F1. Needless to say, like Nick, I was blindsided.  If I felt blindsided even with the spoiler knowledge, I could not imagine how blindsided Nick was.  

Anyway, everything has been said and posted but I just wanted to say I loved Nick from the M&G and love him more now. Never got carried away by Nick's bad editing one bit and I couldn't understand all the hate he got.  I guess one cannot underestimate the naivete of the viewing public but I've seen the show since S1 and most of the Bach/ettes except maybe Ben's season (Never liked him) and Deana (I was indifferent towards her) so I kind of know the drill. But nothing could have prepared me at the ATFR.  I was shocked that I thought I heard him wrong so replayed it with a louder sound.  But, as most of you, I understood it right at that moment. Never thought he planned it. I felt so bad for him because he was shaking and on the verge of crying and Andi was stone cold.

I'm so glad I was not alone in liking Nick and found this forum that carried me throughout the season because there was so much negativity towards him out there.  :cutesmile!:

Welcome to both SarahD and VAgirl, we Nick Chicks are a happy bunch!

[isittrue]

Maybe we should start compiling clues as to whether Nick might be the next Bachelor:

Reasons for Yes:
1) Upswing in edit over the last few episodes
2) All the media interviews over the last few days
3) Arguably the star of the season
4) Shirtless pictures posted on instragram (Mura used this as a clue for Josh being bachelor when he posted some before finale aired)
5) MF tweet open mind and heart
6) Jordyn Rose - poster whose source said Josh was F2 and the next Bachelor - could her source mislead her in that Nick is the F2 and the next Bachelor
7) Public clamoring for it on SM
8) Nick not outright dismissing the idea - has to talk with family, has closure now with Andi etc, sees the process can work
9) Promotion of the show on SM entire season - greatest experience, never forget, etc.

Reasons for Not being a candidate

1) Chloe says her source says Nick is not in consideration and is not interested.  Plus family likes Sharleen (although would Sharleen go on the show like other past contestants to meet Nick)
2) Nick is too polarizing and they need to stay with a possible safer candidate after the Juan Pablo fiasco
3) Nick's negative edit - including guys speculating he was not there for the right reasons
4) Nick still mending over Andi and taking his time getting back into dating.
5) public backlash would question his sincerity and his slip-up at ATFR as being calculated

I dunno - I am starting to get worried that Nick may be in fact in consideration.  As much as I like watching him and would watch his show, I worry like other broken-hearted F2 (Jason and Ben) he would get a negative edit and it would put him in the position to lead women on and I really like to think that he would not enjoy that process.  

I personally have hopes for Ari - who I never watched on Emily's season - since I find him hotter than Chris and I have no personal feelings for either of them - to do the show.  

Please Nick don't accept the apple that MF may be offering and go back to your normal life.  You will have no trouble finding that special someone away from the tv cameras.

Quoting myself - another few reasons he may be the next Bachelor

9) His brother's pinned quote of "My Fame Takes A Hiatus ... for now"
10) Nick's promotion of Chicago all summer long - what a great place to live..
11) CH and company propping Nick up all season long
12) Nick's tweet about needing his phone taken away for another 9 weeks
13) TPTB SM pictures of Nick

Ugh, I am not enjoying compiling these and hope I am barking up the wrong tree..

[Guest]

http://www.flare.com/celebrity/entertainment/the-bachelorette-finale-sharleens-take-on-josh/

hmmm....maybe a Sharnick combo is not really a good idea after all   

No worries Mura, the right girl is just around the corner waiting to be snatched by Nick. I don't think Sharleen's work will allow her to have a stable relationship with Nick anyways so it's good my friend:-)

well, thanks my dear friend..

.i guess we who root for Sharnick may share the same opinion of Them could get their happily ever after ala Chris L and Peyton. i noticed Nick's and Sharleen's age are in the same bracket as Chris-Peyton when they met e.o . I tend to think its best for Nick to acknowledge Shar's support (in her blogs) by writing her a TY card and see where it goes. Of course 20k single ladies are already in their beast mode to prey him

i wish him best either way. as long as the prerequirement fulfilled: he must heal first and be capable to love deeply again   

[sdmom]

I don't want to waste my energy and time to argue with Nick's non-fans, but I have to wonder out loud: Have them watched any of his interviews?
He says it's not his intention to hurt her feelings. He says he wish he could have said it more delicately. He has nothing but praises for Josh. Other than saying Andi's cold demeanor and lack of empathy on Monday night took him off guard, he also says she's a great woman. He says he's got the closure he needed, so he's ready to move on. All these things in all of his interviews.
What else could he have said?
(Mods, if this is deemed inappropriate for this thread, feel free to delete)

[stuckinsc]

I hope when I get home today, theres a video of Nick on GMA for me to see!

I know some non Nick fans think he seemed too together in his interviews to really have been that broken up Monday evening. I do think Nick got closure on Monday evening. But I think he was on his way to healing, but Monday opened those wounds a bit, and then seeing Andi….that was just tough. And after that, he continued the healing process, maybe at a more rapid speed.

Our boy will be fine, I think the weight of the world has finally been lifted from his shoulders. Hoping JJ posts lots of pics from the weekend. Knowing JJ, he will!

This is something I actually thought about a lot last night. I noticed Nick's fumbling and lack of his normal confidence in speaking with Andi on the FD, LCD and even Monday at AFTR, and it was different from the Nick I saw the whole season and in interviews. I do wonder if it wasn't his subconscious trying to tell him something wasn't right with Andi.

I noticed this with Des on her season too. She had a natural comfort with Chris, like her subconscious was shouting, this one! But she like many of us confused the butterflies and giddiness of attraction and even lust for love. I am so grateful for the way Des's season turned out. Even her heartbreak with Brooks and his uncomfortableness while the show was airing, because at the end of the day Brooks is happy and Des and Chris have a relationship that is strong and true and that I do believe will stand the test of time.

I think Nick's subconscious was telling him that Andi wasn't right, but he had grown to love her and so he wanted it to be right. I know I have done this myself, once you care for someone it is hard to admit that they are not the right person for you. I believe his lack of fumbling and studdering now is not deceit but rather that he knows the truth and has accepted it and isn't trying to force something that wasn't right. I do think TPTB had Nick in an uncomfortable place for the past three months and probably led him to believe that maybe Andi wasn't 100% confident of her choice. Cruel, but something I can see them doing.

I do hope that after today the interviews and all are done and that he goes back to his normal life. I would love for him to be the bachelor for us, but I don't want to watch them tear him apart. I hated watching what TPTB did to JPG and I don't want to watch that happen to Nick. Now meeting Sharleen, I am all for that. Hope they meet up today while he is in NYC.

[Beagle]

I have to say this. I have been going back reading between the lines of that Chigirl Donnie and IMO, something has been going on with them. Im calling it now, she already has dibs on Nick.

[mercieme]

I don't want to waste my energy and time to argue with Nick's non-fans, but I have to wonder out loud: Have them watched any of his interviews?
He says it's not his intention to hurt her feelings. He says he wish he could have said it more delicately. He has nothing but praises for Josh. Other than saying Andi's cold demeanor and lack of empathy on Monday night took him off guard, he also says she's a great woman. He says he's got the closure he needed, so he's ready to move on. All these things in all of his interviews.
What else could he have said?
(Mods, if this is deemed inappropriate for this thread, feel free to delete)

I am with you but I usually go out there to counteract opinions that are just not based on facts. If it's there opinions then I let them be.

For me the comment today that he is seeking 15 mins of fame is making me LOL. The same ABC public relations woman that was with Jodi was there at GMA with him today as well a TPTB producer Maria Firestone. If they really think he is making these rounds without obligation to ABC and TPTB then I can't help them. At this point, his those who are not fans will continue to hate, and his lovers will continue to love. That's the ying and yang of life and hence why I am adamant about him not doing the bachelor. I can only imagine the backlash that will spew out from his detractors.

[mercieme]

I have to say this. I have been going back reading between the lines of that Chigirl Donnie and IMO, something has been going on with them. Im calling it now, she already has dibs on Nick.

She is pretty and all but she is too all over the town. I don't want to judge her but to me she does not look like she is ready to settle down. She is the sort of person he can have fun with but very much doubt he will settle down with her long term, only time will tell.

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