Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #6

[Kashathediva]

I love seeing the mental connection! 
It's the main thing that attracted me to my own 35 yr love affair.

[isittrue]

Beautiful video - I don't know if I will be able to watch it again if Nick is not F1 - I loved their story and really hope it does have a happy ending..

[dw_a_mom]

My main thought today is that the producers put such effort in to showing the beautiful love story between Nick and Andi.  His getting the "first" of absolutely everything on this show, and the way Andi described the passion with Nick was something that she had never felt before, the once in a life time thing, and how she says he sees all sides of her. .  . I don't think she could possibly let that go unless there is something that went very wrong, and that we will see on Monday.  The mental connection particularly is very rare and hard to find, and I don't think she could possibly ever let that go.  The editing and production is done after the FRC, so whatever happened at the FRC, the producers of the show decided to show us ONE main love story, and that is between Andi and Nick.  So, that is the love story that I believe will come to a very romantic conclusion on July 28th.  All the other stuff is just noise, and since we like to be sleuthers - it does raise doubts when we sleuth and analyze, but in the end I always come back to the truth of the show - ONE main love story was shown.   Thank you to whomever made this wonderful video - ahhhhhhh, so sweet!  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC7hLDG1Aoo

EDIT NOTE: I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubble, just sharing my thinking.

I don't know, most people seem to think the main love story being shown is clearly and unequivocally the one with Josh.

She definitely fell for Nick, though.  She reaches for him through most of the episodes.

Something important I know from having watched this show from near the beginning, however:

Don't use anything said in an ITM or VO to figure out who the lead is really falling.  Use ONLY what you see them say on camera directly to the person involved.  Most of what you talk about above was said in ITMs and VOs; thus, not conclusive.  What IS evidence was that Andi moved into Nick more than he moved into her.  Who the lead chases.

But I have to admit, that seemed to change in the overnight dates.  I saw a change in how Andi is with Nick, although she clearly is still really attracted to him.

What really annoys and frustrates me is how many viewers seem to dislike Nick.  I love his type, and the way he is.  Nothing slimy about it.

[Cecilia]

My main thought today is that the producers put such effort in to showing the beautiful love story between Nick and Andi.  His getting the "first" of absolutely everything on this show, and the way Andi described the passion with Nick was something that she had never felt before, the once in a life time thing, and how she says he sees all sides of her. .  . I don't think she could possibly let that go unless there is something that went very wrong, and that we will see on Monday.  The mental connection particularly is very rare and hard to find, and I don't think she could possibly ever let that go.  The editing and production is done after the FRC, so whatever happened at the FRC, the producers of the show decided to show us ONE main love story, and that is between Andi and Nick.  So, that is the love story that I believe will come to a very romantic conclusion on July 28th.  All the other stuff is just noise, and since we like to be sleuthers - it does raise doubts when we sleuth and analyze, but in the end I always come back to the truth of the show - ONE main love story was shown.   Thank you to whomever made this wonderful video - ahhhhhhh, so sweet!  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC7hLDG1Aoo

I don't know, most people seem to think the main love story being shown is clearly and unequivocally the one with Josh.

She definitely fell for Nick, though.  She reaches for him through most of the episodes.

Something important I know from having watched this show from near the beginning, however:

Don't use anything said in an ITM or VO to figure out who the lead is really falling.  Use ONLY what you see them say on camera directly to the person involved.  Most of what you talk about above was said in ITMs and VOs; thus, not conclusive.  What IS evidence was that Andi moved into Nick more than he moved into her.  Who the lead chases.

But I have to admit, that seemed to change in the overnight dates.  I saw a change in how Andi is with Nick, although she clearly is still really attracted to him.

What really annoys and frustrates me is how many viewers seem to dislike Nick.  I love his type, and the way he is.  Nothing slimy about it.  

I don't like or understand people disliking him. But he is the more unique choice of the two. And for that reason I think Nick fans have good taste! I also think he just seems like a really good kisser.

[Guest]

My main thought today is that the producers put such effort in to showing the beautiful love story between Nick and Andi.  His getting the "first" of absolutely everything on this show, and the way Andi described the passion with Nick was something that she had never felt before, the once in a life time thing, and how she says he sees all sides of her. .  . I don't think she could possibly let that go unless there is something that went very wrong, and that we will see on Monday.  The mental connection particularly is very rare and hard to find, and I don't think she could possibly ever let that go.  The editing and production is done after the FRC, so whatever happened at the FRC, the producers of the show decided to show us ONE main love story, and that is between Andi and Nick.  So, that is the love story that I believe will come to a very romantic conclusion on July 28th.  All the other stuff is just noise, and since we like to be sleuthers - it does raise doubts when we sleuth and analyze, but in the end I always come back to the truth of the show - ONE main love story was shown.   Thank you to whomever made this wonderful video - ahhhhhhh, so sweet!  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC7hLDG1Aoo

I don't know, most people seem to think the main love story being shown is clearly and unequivocally the one with Josh.

She definitely fell for Nick, though.  She reaches for him through most of the episodes.

Something important I know from having watched this show from near the beginning, however:

Don't use anything said in an ITM or VO to figure out who the lead is really falling.  Use ONLY what you see them say on camera directly to the person involved.  Most of what you talk about above was said in ITMs and VOs; thus, not conclusive.  What IS evidence was that Andi moved into Nick more than he moved into her.  Who the lead chases.

But I have to admit, that seemed to change in the overnight dates.  I saw a change in how Andi is with Nick, although she clearly is still really attracted to him.

What really annoys and frustrates me is how many viewers seem to dislike Nick.  I love his type, and the way he is.  Nothing slimy about it.  

I feel the same way.  

[isittrue]

My main thought today is that the producers put such effort in to showing the beautiful love story between Nick and Andi.  His getting the "first" of absolutely everything on this show, and the way Andi described the passion with Nick was something that she had never felt before, the once in a life time thing, and how she says he sees all sides of her. .  . I don't think she could possibly let that go unless there is something that went very wrong, and that we will see on Monday.  The mental connection particularly is very rare and hard to find, and I don't think she could possibly ever let that go.  The editing and production is done after the FRC, so whatever happened at the FRC, the producers of the show decided to show us ONE main love story, and that is between Andi and Nick.  So, that is the love story that I believe will come to a very romantic conclusion on July 28th.  All the other stuff is just noise, and since we like to be sleuthers - it does raise doubts when we sleuth and analyze, but in the end I always come back to the truth of the show - ONE main love story was shown.   Thank you to whomever made this wonderful video - ahhhhhhh, so sweet!  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC7hLDG1Aoo

I don't know, most people seem to think the main love story being shown is clearly and unequivocally the one with Josh.

She definitely fell for Nick, though.  She reaches for him through most of the episodes.

Something important I know from having watched this show from near the beginning, however:

Don't use anything said in an ITM or VO to figure out who the lead is really falling.  Use ONLY what you see them say on camera directly to the person involved.  Most of what you talk about above was said in ITMs and VOs; thus, not conclusive.  What IS evidence was that Andi moved into Nick more than he moved into her.  Who the lead chases.

But I have to admit, that seemed to change in the overnight dates.  I saw a change in how Andi is with Nick, although she clearly is still really attracted to him.

What really annoys and frustrates me is how many viewers seem to dislike Nick.  I love his type, and the way he is.  Nothing slimy about it.  

I don't like or understand people disliking him.  But he is the more unique choice of the two.  And for that reason I think Nick fans have good taste!  I also think he just seems like a really good kisser.

YES to the bolded!

[Guest]

My main thought today is that the producers put such effort in to showing the beautiful love story between Nick and Andi.  His getting the "first" of absolutely everything on this show, and the way Andi described the passion with Nick was something that she had never felt before, the once in a life time thing, and how she says he sees all sides of her. .  . I don't think she could possibly let that go unless there is something that went very wrong, and that we will see on Monday.  The mental connection particularly is very rare and hard to find, and I don't think she could possibly ever let that go.  The editing and production is done after the FRC, so whatever happened at the FRC, the producers of the show decided to show us ONE main love story, and that is between Andi and Nick.  So, that is the love story that I believe will come to a very romantic conclusion on July 28th.  All the other stuff is just noise, and since we like to be sleuthers - it does raise doubts when we sleuth and analyze, but in the end I always come back to the truth of the show - ONE main love story was shown.   Thank you to whomever made this wonderful video - ahhhhhhh, so sweet!  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC7hLDG1Aoo

I don't know, most people seem to think the main love story being shown is clearly and unequivocally the one with Josh.

She definitely fell for Nick, though.  She reaches for him through most of the episodes.

Something important I know from having watched this show from near the beginning, however:

Don't use anything said in an ITM or VO to figure out who the lead is really falling.  Use ONLY what you see them say on camera directly to the person involved.  Most of what you talk about above was said in ITMs and VOs; thus, not conclusive.  What IS evidence was that Andi moved into Nick more than he moved into her.  Who the lead chases.

But I have to admit, that seemed to change in the overnight dates.  I saw a change in how Andi is with Nick, although she clearly is still really attracted to him.

What really annoys and frustrates me is how many viewers seem to dislike Nick.  I love his type, and the way he is.  Nothing slimy about it.  

This is the beauty of the board. We all see things differently..and thats Okay...

as a Jodi matchmaker pre-season i would love nothing more than to stick with my wild guess pre-season that they would wed in the end of this . But boy!.to my surprise her blog of ep 3 and ep 3 itself have changed my view for the rest of the season and forced me to migrate from Josh's fan thread and now im stuck with y'all here...  

Since i dig deeper, The Nian Great LS if what i have found, observed, and finally believe as the main storyline this season. Both from Quantity and Quality POV, IMO. Quantity: from the air time they both have, of course. Quality : from the depth of the conversation, future reference, multiaspects of the relationship, obstacles to overcome,  and all the 'untangible' tidbits..that only can be 'sensed'..

I cant help but always found myself referencing Des's seaseon That was the season i knew best and on which i breathed and lived conspiracy theory for 3.5 mo long. Mind you, it was the first successful orchestrated foiler scheme for MFnCo. I found Des's PI, ITM and VOs about Chris were very2 telling....but folks overlooked it because of the 5 convincing spoilers. Oddly enough, i think it repeated again this season with Nick and Andi   , on A (Flessian) REVENGE SEASON 2 (for RS)--A Do or Die spin off . We shall see! 

[isittrue]

I posted something in the media thread regarding a TV guide with CH hinting Andi's decision may not be the ultimate ending and that the final decision would come at ATFR. No whether that means she does not get engaged or she chooses no one remains anyone's guess but as a Nick fan I wish we had more positive signs that this was a possibility if he is not F1 since Josh has home field advantage. It's probably CH hype about nothing but all this media is driving me mad

[MVMom39forever]

My main thought today is that the producers put such effort in to showing the beautiful love story between Nick and Andi.  His getting the "first" of absolutely everything on this show, and the way Andi described the passion with Nick was something that she had never felt before, the once in a life time thing, and how she says he sees all sides of her. .  . I don't think she could possibly let that go unless there is something that went very wrong, and that we will see on Monday.  The mental connection particularly is very rare and hard to find, and I don't think she could possibly ever let that go.  The editing and production is done after the FRC, so whatever happened at the FRC, the producers of the show decided to show us ONE main love story, and that is between Andi and Nick.  So, that is the love story that I believe will come to a very romantic conclusion on July 28th.  All the other stuff is just noise, and since we like to be sleuthers - it does raise doubts when we sleuth and analyze, but in the end I always come back to the truth of the show - ONE main love story was shown.   Thank you to whomever made this wonderful video - ahhhhhhh, so sweet!  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC7hLDG1Aoo

    

[dw_a_mom]

I cant help but always found myself referencing Des's seaseon That was the season i knew best and on which i breathed and lived conspiracy theory for 3.5 mo long. Mind you, it was the first successful orchestrated foiler scheme for MFnCo. I found Des's PI, ITM and VOs about Chris were very2 telling....but folks overlooked it because of the 5 convincing spoilers. Oddly enough, i think it repeated again this season with Nick and Andi   , on A (Flessian) REVENGE SEASON 2 (for RS)--A Do or Die spin off . We shall see! 

I fell for the spoilers that season, BUT as I watched her interactions with both men, I could not for the life of me figure out why Des couldn't pull her head out of the sand and see that Chris was the right choice for her.  I was THRILLED in the end that she was with Chris.

This time, though, I can see why Josh would be a good choice for Andi.  I can see what she loves about both men, and how both men in different ways are good for her.   What I actually worry about is that maybe what she really needs, then, isn't on this show:  that the best guy for her would have been a little more in between, more of a balance of these two guy's traits.

And we shall see!

I wouldn't mind being surprised AT ALL.

[Cecilia]

The key difference between spoilers in Des's season and spoilers this year is the videotape of Nick. It sucks and I wish I had never watched it. Without that, I would definitely be doubting RS. Who has never irritated me more than this season.

[MVMom39forever]

I cant help but always found myself referencing Des's seaseon That was the season i knew best and on which i breathed and lived conspiracy theory for 3.5 mo long. Mind you, it was the first successful orchestrated foiler scheme for MFnCo. I found Des's PI, ITM and VOs about Chris were very2 telling....but folks overlooked it because of the 5 convincing spoilers. Oddly enough, i think it repeated again this season with Nick and Andi   , on A (Flessian) REVENGE SEASON 2 (for RS)--A Do or Die spin off . We shall see! 

I fell for the spoilers that season, BUT as I watched her interactions with both men, I could not for the life of me figure out why Des couldn't pull her head out of the sand and see that Chris was the right choice for her.  I was THRILLED in the end that she was with Chris.

This time, though, I can see why Josh would be a good choice for Andi.  I can see what she loves about both men, and how both men in different ways are good for her.   What I actually worry about is that maybe what she really needs, then, isn't on this show:  that the best guy for her would have been a little more in between, more of a balance of these two guy's traits.

And we shall see!

I wouldn't mind being surprised AT ALL.

Really?? I am pretty sure we've heard plenty from Andi that Nick is a once in a lifetime kinda guy. No need to look elsewhere. He's the ONE.

  

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