Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #6

[lleyki]

One thing I have been curious about is what others think about the shot of Nick in the red shirt similar to the blue one he wore for last week's rose ceremony and clearly standing outside. I guess I could go to the screencap discussion thread and see what others think there but I don't think like wading through the many pages to get to the one thing I'm interested in.

I thought of 4 possibilities 1) he is looking at rings 2) if F2, he comes back during the FRC to try to speak to Andi, 3) if he goes home, it is him waiting for his limo or 4) it is similar to the Brooks screenshot where he was crying into a head of lettuce and was never seen on the show.    

I thought of the limo thing but it just seemed an odd shot though I guess someone could argue he looks sort of sad in it. But we clearly see Andi walking away from a hotel and then crying in the vehicle so I would think it far more likely that if he was waiting for a limo, it would be outside the hotel, where she'd just broken up with him and let him go. Not be standing on what clearly looks like some kind of rocks and sea.

It's funny, I don't actually doubt the spoilers only because I never get invested enough with the show to want to make the effort to prove them wrong. And this season is no different in that I adore Nick but I have no investment either way in whether or not Andi picks him. And I know the screencap of her crying on a couch has been sleuthed to the death and many have concluded it is clearly Nick's room. But if I'm being perfectly honest, my gut reaction when I first saw the promo was that the shot of her crying might have been in her and her parents' hotel room after telling CH her decision to let whichever guy go.

eta: About the "love story", as I said above, I don't actually doubt the spoiler because honestly, I think it'd be more entertaining to be genuinely surprised if it turns out to be wrong. But that being said, as one who again has no investment in Andi choosing Nick because I'm not that enamored with her, I have to say that I agree that the edit really didn't do that great of a job of showing her and Josh's love story.

Of course others will see it differently, especially if you're a fan of Josh or just someone who completely believes the spoiler. But I think the show spent far too much time focusing on Andi's doubts and concerns about Josh than showing the fun/passionate times between them. Sure they were there but then in those same dates they were there there would be more of Andi's wariness, sometimes downright passive aggressive comments, etc. The FD might have been the first time where it seemed all smooth sailing with them.

And that would not be a problem if at the same time they weren't showing so much of her and Nick and their connection. Andi and Josh very well could be one of the few couples from this franchise who makes it if she picks him but I just know I won't find myself particularly moved by the ending as I have been with a few other pairings. I'll be happy enough for them but I don't know, I just kind of feel "meh" about everything I've seen of them together thus far.

[Guest]

It's hard to stay positive when you have both sides arguing that theirs is the true love story being shown and we see body language between   Andi and Nick less than cozy.

I understand your wavering, and I can also ask questions when I play devil's advocate.  But, that scene as Nick gives Andi the gift is obviously spliced, so ask yourself why did the producers do that?  Why couldn't they show the straight scene as it occurred, like they did with Josh?  If you look for reasons why Josh is not F1, they are there too, in SM and during the show.  Why would Josh tweet something like, "not cutting the chord" as he goes to see family (slam on Andi) and after the MTA he implies only his parents have his back (not something you say when you have a fiancé), and he seemed overly upset about the lie detector stuff.  Josh has an edit of an "old shoe" which is insulting for a F1, and some would say his edit casts doubt on his truthfulness, another thing I wouldn't think they'd want an F1 to suffer through.  We all think Josh is great here, an exceptional human being, but we don't see the real love story with Josh and Andi.  So, with all the doubting about Nick that is going on in here today, there are also doubts about Josh - so I'd say this is not the time to jump off the Nick train, but to push harder full steam ahead.  Why doubt what we've seen up until now based on some spliced preview?
Both these guys are awesome, but Andi is only in love with Nick.  He can feel it, and so can we.    

I'm riding the train straight through to the glorious ending of an engaged Nian.  :cutesmile!:

Oh..i already passed that!...im straight to the      #ImpendingDanger  :strings1

[MonicaJM2001]

And favs from the man himself....

#TheBachelorette #likelivingonmars
#lifeoutsidethebubble
#loveismischief #willingtobesneakyforlove

These ones always stick out to me. In order to have the complete awesome love story shown without taking all suspense away, something needed to occur to make there be doubt in who will be picked. Enter: plane video  

Yes!  Where Nick is eating cheetos, talking about how he can't wait to do real things like take Andi to K-Mart, giggling in one part as he looks left, talking louder than he has all season, just in time for Reality Steve's old love interest to tape him - oh and before she started taping Nick talked about writing a letter, apparently.  #Inconceivable  

I need much more than what I saw to believe that wasn't staged.  Plus, nobody has mentioned it all season.  Didn't someone here say that Jimmy Kimmel's show was "brought to you by Cheetos?"  Does anyone remember that little nugget?  

  

 :WAVEY: That was me. It was Friday 7/18/14 right after his opening monologue and it went to commercial guy and he said "Jimmy Kimmel Live-sponsored by CHEETOS"

[Guest]

I understand your wavering, and I can also ask questions when I play devil's advocate.  But, that scene as Nick gives Andi the gift is obviously spliced, so ask yourself why did the producers do that?  Why couldn't they show the straight scene as it occurred, like they did with Josh?  If you look for reasons why Josh is not F1, they are there too, in SM and during the show.  Why would Josh tweet something like, "not cutting the chord" as he goes to see family (slam on Andi) and after the MTA he implies only his parents have his back (not something you say when you have a fiancé), and he seemed overly upset about the lie detector stuff.  Josh has an edit of an "old shoe" which is insulting for a F1, and some would say his edit casts doubt on his truthfulness, another thing I wouldn't think they'd want an F1 to suffer through.  We all think Josh is great here, an exceptional human being, but we don't see the real love story with Josh and Andi.  So, with all the doubting about Nick that is going on in here today, there are also doubts about Josh - so I'd say this is not the time to jump off the Nick train, but to push harder full steam ahead.  Why doubt what we've seen up until now based on some spliced preview?
Both these guys are awesome, but Andi is only in love with Nick.  He can feel it, and so can we.    

I'm riding the train straight through to the glorious ending of an engaged Nian.  :cutesmile!:

Oh..i already passed that!...im straight to the      #ImpendingDanger  :strings1

WOO HOOO!!!! Andi and Nick say "I do" and Josh will be just fine as he'll be TB, and will find an even better match and all the Josh fans will love that, lots of shirtless scenes I'm sure as the season goes. He'll be just fine. As my Dad used to always say, "There is a seat for every butt." Really, we all have our match out there.  :cutesmile!: 

[isittrue]

One thing I have been curious about is what others think about the shot of Nick in the red shirt similar to the blue one he wore for last week's rose ceremony and clearly standing outside. I guess I could go to the screencap discussion thread and see what others think there but I don't think like wading through the many pages to get to the one thing I'm interested in.

I thought of 4 possibilities 1) he is looking at rings 2) if F2, he comes back during the FRC to try to speak to Andi, 3) if he goes home, it is him waiting for his limo or 4) it is similar to the Brooks screenshot where he was crying into a head of lettuce and was never seen on the show.    

I thought of the limo thing but it just seemed an odd shot though I guess someone could argue he looks sort of sad in it. But we clearly see Andi walking away from a hotel and then crying in the vehicle so I would think it far more likely that if he was waiting for a limo, it would be outside the hotel, where she'd just broken up with him and let him go. Not be standing on what clearly looks like some kind of rocks and sea.

It's funny, I don't actually doubt the spoilers only because I never get invested enough with the show to want to make the effort to prove them wrong. And this season is no different in that I adore Nick but I have no investment either way in whether or not Andi picks him. And I know the screencap of her crying on a couch has been sleuthed to the death and many have concluded it is clearly Nick's room.

But if I'm being perfectly honest, my gut reaction when I first saw the promo was that the shot of her crying might have been in her and her parents' hotel room after telling CH her decision to let whichever guy go.

Re: bolded. Maybe, IF he is the one to leave, it is him contemplating what he is going to do before he sees her. If he has any doubts in her feelings for him, he might be mulling it over and decide to leave before he gets hurt further.

[MonicaJM2001]

Gotta go for a while and do real life. Stay positive TEAMNICK

[Guest]

I'm riding the train straight through to the glorious ending of an engaged Nian.  :cutesmile!:

Oh..i already passed that!...im straight to the      #ImpendingDanger  :strings1

WOO HOOO!!!!  Andi and Nick say "I do" and Josh will be just fine as he'll be TB, and will find an even better match and all the Josh fans will love that, lots of shirtless scenes I'm sure as the season goes.  He'll be just fine.  As my Dad used to always say, "There is a seat for every butt."   Really, we all have our match out there.   :cutesmile!: 

LOL love your dad's precious saying!  

may i gently reminds everyone here the Bachelor BIO...Ahemmm!!! *drum roll*  


Nick V. 
Age: 33
Occupation: Software Sales Executive
Hometown: Waukesha, WI
Height: 6'2"
Shoe Size: 10.5
Tattoos: None
City or Country Person: City
Favorite Flower: A rose...duh   

[happygolucky]

Ileyki ... my gut-feelings are so strong right now, that can't change my opinion even if I believe that room to be the same in both pics .. but with SCs it's also tricky, they are just that, capture of a moment, then everyone would find own interpretation.

As for your question ... I'm leaning towards: a) him contemplating (like some sort of PI outdoors) maybe 1) waiting for the rings (or just picked out one) 2) waiting for Andi to come and let him know who knows what (have no idea in what schedule and order things go down on TB) 3) finishing the storybook  or b) something, anything but him waiting for limo to go home (don't know why would they show that if he is spoiled F2 anyway)

[torybean]

One thing I have been curious about is what others think about the shot of Nick in the red shirt similar to the blue one he wore for last week's rose ceremony and clearly standing outside. I guess I could go to the screencap discussion thread and see what others think there but I don't feel like wading through the many pages to get to the one thing I'm interested in.

The reason I noticed it is because I could not figure out when he would be dressed like this. It's not when he meets Andi's parents because we've seen the clips of that and he's wearing a blue henley and from the clips of the LCD it looks like he goes from a blue t-shirt when they're driving around together to the red/black henley when hanging out at night.

Thanks for mentioning this.....that red shirt shots raised a flag for me as there are extras shots provided of Nick in the preview, yet there's no extra shots of Josh to correspond to it......the editors inserted old shots of Josh in the lavender shirt. Josh's lavender shirt outfit is what he wore during FD episode when he did that video for Andi, not MTP/LCD (unless he repeated the outfit....I doubt it's a repeat). The voice over on those caps is "will either guy propose?" or something similar which would normally lead the viewer to believe the scene represents when the guy goes to meet with Neil Lane. IMO, the reason those old shots are in there, is likely there are no shots of Josh meeting with Neil Lane.......Andi let him go prior to this. IMO Nick is going to meet with Neil Lane in the red shirt shot. But we will just have to see how this all plays out......

[SueSt]

And favs from the man himself....

#TheBachelorette #likelivingonmars
#lifeoutsidethebubble
#loveismischief #willingtobesneakyforlove

These ones always stick out to me. In order to have the complete awesome love story shown without taking all suspense away, something needed to occur to make there be doubt in who will be picked. Enter: plane video  

ITA Monica!! No plane video, no suspense   

[SueSt]

And favs from the man himself....

#TheBachelorette #likelivingonmars
#lifeoutsidethebubble
#loveismischief #willingtobesneakyforlove

#incredibleexperience #willneverforget  #blessed
 :dancing peg:

This one too..........shown with a pic of him and his female BFF in her wedding dress. He probably has a million of pics he could have used of them and chose that one and then that hash tag bolded under it in regards to her signing him up for Bachelorette. I know our Nick is a positive guy but not sure anyone would use above hashtag about something that ultimately ended in heartache for him.

ABSOLUTELY, True this!!  

[Guest]

One thing I have been curious about is what others think about the shot of Nick in the red shirt similar to the blue one he wore for last week's rose ceremony and clearly standing outside. I guess I could go to the screencap discussion thread and see what others think there but I don't feel like wading through the many pages to get to the one thing I'm interested in.

The reason I noticed it is because I could not figure out when he would be dressed like this. It's not when he meets Andi's parents because we've seen the clips of that and he's wearing a blue henley and from the clips of the LCD it looks like he goes from a blue t-shirt when they're driving around together to the red/black henley when hanging out at night.

Thanks for mentioning this.....that red shirt shots raised a flag for me as there are extras shots provided of Nick in the preview, yet there's no extra shots of Josh to correspond to it......the editors inserted old shots of Josh in the lavender shirt. Josh's lavender shirt outfit is what he wore during FD episode when he did that video for Andi, not MTP/LCD (unless he repeated the outfit....I doubt it's a repeat). The voice over on those caps is "will either guy propose?" or something similar which would normally lead the viewer to believe the scene represents when the guy goes to meet with Neil Lane. IMO, the reason those old shots are in there, is likely there are no shots of Josh meeting with Neil Lane.......Andi let him go prior to this. IMO Nick is going to meet with Neil Lane in the red shirt shot. But we will just have to see how this all plays out......

ITA with your post, tory!     

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