Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #5

[stuckinsc]

"Can Andi pull the trigger?" with all of the other things MVMom pointed out, is a huge hint straight from Chris H., in my estimation.

I found Chris Harrison's blog so odd if Josh is F1. All of his comments about Nick I find odd if Josh is F1. It takes me back to Des' season when I was so duped. During the season I was SO CONVINCED that Brooks was F1. But I remember reading Chris Harrison's blog and interviews and wondered why is he being so complimentary of Chris, and him representing growth for Des where as Brooks was the same guy from the past. When the finale aired and she ended up with Chris I realized CH was just supporting the final couple.

I was so mad at CH and his blogs during Des's season. He would make fun of Brooks for being what I thought was reasonable, then actually made fun of him for Des's crappy analogy of walk, jog, run.

So if his blog is like last season, maybe I will be happier with him this time. I still feel he is the devil like MF himself and hides his horns under his hair.

[Piper61]

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For the plane video my favorite daydream outcome would be for Jimmy Kimmel to pop up over the seat as the person filming Nick.

For this IG pic.. I'd most like it to be Nick, Andi and Josh toasting to the mind game they just played on #merica.    

nick_viall28 A little Friday happy hour. #chicago #summer 1h
http://web.stagram.com/p/767586667064397159_28313266#cXgWszrgcQRXXc1K.99

LOL! @ Jimmy Kimmel prank.  TBH, when I look at the female's pants in the insta pic, those do not look like pockets that would be on pants that Andi would wear.  IMO.  

Piper, thanks for posting with us!  But, la la la, I want to live in my fairytale land for today or maybe until July 28th.  I like Josh and Nick so much a part of me hopes all the drama is fake and they are really friends.   

   It would be truly amazing if the three of them are really friends and it wouldn't bother me a bit. I hope that no matter how it all went down, goes down, that IRL, be it now or later, they can all look back and be able to say that when all was said and done, they have respect and good feelings towards each other.

[sdmom]

"Can Andi pull the trigger?" with all of the other things MVMom pointed out, is a huge hint straight from Chris H., in my estimation.

I found Chris Harrison's blog so odd if Josh is F1. All of his comments about Nick I find odd if Josh is F1. It takes me back to Des' season when I was so duped. During the season I was SO CONVINCED that Brooks was F1. But I remember reading Chris Harrison's blog and interviews and wondered why is he being so complimentary of Chris, and him representing growth for Des where as Brooks was the same guy from the past. When the finale aired and she ended up with Chris I realized CH was just supporting the final couple.

ITA. This just doesn't make sense to me (but nothing makes sense to me NOW!), TPTB gave Nick a terrible edit and then defended him on CH blog? Weird.

[MVMom39forever]

Great Post MVMom!  I will be so happy if RS is eating crow on July 28th.  Since, I am convinced Josh would be the next bachelor, I am not even worried about a broken hearted F2 in this case.

Thank you! Totally agree!

[sdmom]

LOL! @ Jimmy Kimmel prank.  TBH, when I look at the female's pants in the insta pic, those do not look like pockets that would be on pants that Andi would wear.  IMO.  

Piper, thanks for posting with us!  But, la la la, I want to live in my fairytale land for today or maybe until July 28th.  I like Josh and Nick so much a part of me hopes all the drama is fake and they are really friends.   

    It would be truly amazing if the three of them are really friends and it wouldn't bother me a bit.  I hope that no matter how it all went down, goes down, that IRL, be it now or later, they can all look back and be able to say that when all was said and done, they have respect and good feelings towards each other.  

I really hope Nick and Josh can become friends after all these. I feel they have similarities: both are men of faith, close to their families, oldest brother, etc. Too bad they were put into such an unnatural environment.

[SueSt]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NR - the BEST!
Thanks for the smile!   

[MVMom39forever]

great summary of the crumbs MVMom!!. great take on the little peanut!!  

as the cherry on top, take her Blog into consideration. wowza!! its not hard to guess the homeygirl would love to move to Chitown right after ATFR.

im starting  to stock crunchy PBnRW for our party at the finale ... Pre-Order Anyone?

Thanks! Most of these clues are from you and all the great fans on this thread. We learned a lot last season separating fact from fiction.

[Norcalgal]

Just posted this in the F1-2 thread:

This is out of left field but remember the episode (Final 6 or 9 guys, can't remember which one) when the guys were discussing Nick and Brian said, "He'll be one of the final 2 and walk away"? That foreshadowing (even if prompted by a producer) was left in editing for a reason. Perhaps Nick just couldn't pull the trigger and propose. Perhaps the letter we see at the MTA is explaining why. That would explain why Nick seems pretty happy. He might be really satisfied with where he is right now.

[MVMom39forever]

"Can Andi pull the trigger?" with all of the other things MVMom pointed out, is a huge hint straight from Chris H., in my estimation.

BKay 

MVMOM   

OMG ... I forgot about this photo. Now this is just icing on the friggin cake! Yes, we got it ... she can PULL THE TRIGGER, Chris!

Bkay ...  

[SueSt]

Nick FANS ... here's why I think Nick is final one ...

- Nick posting and removing two photos of him on IG soon after returning: 1) messy haired, bare chested looking to side (like he just woke up during SH visit) and 2) one of the ones on red bench/earpiece showing  

- Tweet from Nick's dad about favorite scene from Princess Bride re: inconceivable w/hashtag #TeamNick. Now his Princess Bride references takes on bigger relevance considering Nick's story book for Princess Andi!

- Andi and Nick's tweets about red wine and peanut butter; calling Bella (whom Andi said could be a future lawyer) "little peanut." So does that mean Nick's code name is "red wine" and Andi's is "peanut butter." Well, according to Andi, they go great together.

- Andi saying in very recent interviews that she wanted to Shout her pick; Nick posting Shout song ... this was too blatant of him to tweet so I bet ABC PR team told him to pull back. Notice that Nick's newer tweets are back to being mixed messages? I need hug ...

- Plane video weirdness ... and isn't there the ever so slight possibility that guy in video could be Nick's look alike brother with an earpiece who just so happened to be absent from the HTD but they flashed his picture on wall. I know we saw a photo of one of Nick's brothers here and we all thought it was Nick.

- The entire season ... Nick getting more time with Andi than any former winner ... First impression rose, GDR ep 4, solo date on ep 3/6, secret time Brussels, "most important rose of season" per Andi with rose going into HTD ... her frequent references to "mental/emotional/intellectual/passion/chemistry" etc.

- Meet her dad's expectations ... we all know how critical her dad was that Andi didn't get much time with JP so you can bet he is going to expect that his daughter gives her F1 loads of time/attention.

- Did anyone listen to last AfterBuzz Bachelorette recap? Danny Hoyt mentions that he has exchanged about 10 DMs w/Nick for past 2 weeks and then later (about 27 minutes in) he briefly mentions that he got a couple of snapchats during MTA taping weekend, which is when both Nick and Andi were in LA. Both JC and Cathy asked Danny to say more and he just said, "Nope!" Danny is 100 percent Team Nick for F1. This mention is so subtle and happens so fast that it's easy to miss. Listen for it!

- Andi resigned from job - which she claimed to LOVE. Yes, she kept door open for possible rehire in December. But wouldn't she have to say that in letter to keep the foiler going? And, wouldn't she have to resign if she was going to start looking for jobs in Chicago, which BTW is about 1 1/2 hour plane ride from her family in Atlanta so nice and close.

- ALL this noise now about Josh being F1 ... too loud!

- RS getting way too many clues falling into his lap ... too easy!

- And, FINALLY, what really convinces me is Chris Harrison's last blog  

CHRIS BLOG ...

"Josh is her type, he’s the comfortable choice she’s fallen for many times during her life. This obviously hasn’t worked out so well in the past and that’s why she’s been so worried about this relationship and so skeptical of Josh all along. She’s worried about making the same old mistake. But the problem with the “comfort zone” is it’s so darn comfortable. It just feels right even if it’s not.”

“Nick, on the other hand is the unknown, the road or “rose” less traveled. Nick is the kind of relationship and guy I think Andi aspires to be with. A guy she’s never really given herself a chance to fall for. Nick is a guy who will challenge her and push her in ways she’s never known before. The problem with the “road less traveled” guy is at the end of the day when the pressure is on, can Andi really pull the trigger and choose this different lifestyle?"

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The "problem" that Chris sets up with Andi picking Josh is negative towards the type of relationship Josh offers ... a "mistake."

Whereas "the problem" that Chris sets up with Andi picking Nick is really all about Andi ... "can SHE pull the trigger"? ... is SHE strong enough ... did SHE grow from experience ABC offered her?

Unless ABC is going to start throwing Andi under the bus (and I don't see why at this stage), Fleiss & Co wants to present Andi as someone very capable of pulling the trigger!

Shoot, they showed us lots of footage of Andi pulling triggers in Juan Pablo's season so we know YES, she can shoot to win.

Andi has been a good soldier for ABC all season. Chris has called her one of the smartest Bachelorettes ever. They are not going to show her in a bad light at this stage and making a decision that Chris H referenced as being a mistake.

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So, that's all I got. What did I miss?

TeamNick ... F1 on July 28 ... KABOOM!

AWESOME post, MVMOM.
Thanks so much for laying out the details for us to review!
As you say, if you turn down the noise there is just too much evidence to assume anyone but Nick is Andi's F1...
And even if you wanted to debate the evidence post-show... you can ALWAYS go back to what we're being presented with ON the screen each week. A softer, flirtier, sweeter, more vulnerable Andi... one that has found her 'once in a lifetime' love!!! The connection between N&A is undeniable!

[SueSt]

Ok, what does it mean....????     

Nicholas Viall @viallnicholas28     ·   58m    

If you tell people you don't look at the results after blowing your nose then you are a liar.

   

ETA: sometimes a rose is just a rose.....  

[Guest]

LOVE LOVE the upbeat, positive posts I am reading today! Way to go #TeamSalty!

I wanted to bring more Nick love and say that when my parents visited a couple weeks ago, my mom watched hometowns with me. She wasn't watching this season and now after watching she didn't want to miss overnights.

She doesn't follow any spoilers and is a casual viewer. I asked her who she thought Andi would choose and this was her reply:

"I like that Nick dude the best but I wonder if she chooses anyone?"

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