Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #5

[isittrue]

Hi Team Salty! It's the dreaded time before the finale when everyone is predicting spoiled F2 goes home heartbroken. I am still rooting 100 percent for Nick as F1. Why? Because with EVERY media outlet telling us Josh is 100 percent F1, it reminds me of literally the LAST time that I was fooled by Fleiss and that was Deanna's season with Jason Mesnick vs. Jessee.

Predicted to happen in polls: JASON

From RealityTV site: "On Monday night's season finale of "The Bachelorette" DeAnna Pappas will choose either Jason, the single father or Jesse the pro snowboarder. My guess, and yours too judging by the poll results, is that she will pick Jason."

What actually happened ... KABOOM!!

"Bachelorette Finale Shocker: DeAnna Pappas Chooses Jessee"

"Deanna Pappas Pulls Off Bachelorette Shocker"

Yeah and everyone thought Brooks was coming back last season (including me!). Guess we will have to wait and see.
Yeah and last season lots of people thought Brooks was coming back too (including me!)  We shall see.  

"‘Bachelorette’ finale: I can't believe DeAnna picked Jesse the 'rad' snowboarder"

Hollywood Life Recap:
"On the season finale of The Bachelorette, DeAnna Pappas shocked America (and Jason Mesnick) by getting engaged to Jesse Csincsak. Devastated and shell-shocked after his rejection, Jason headed home in his limo alone as DeAnna met Jesse at the final rose ceremony."

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Good news ... nobody had to feel too sorry for the devastated Jason for long. All his tears in the limo made for a great intro to his Bachelor season.

So let's sit back, take a deep breath, relax and take comfort in the fact that while America will be shocked with Andi's pick, we won't be!

Team SaltyNickPeanutButterRedWine knows it's conceivable!

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chris viall @cviall11     ·   Jul 6    
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means"
Princess Bride. Top 5 all time! #teamnick

[unknown82]

Hi Team Salty! It's the dreaded time before the finale when everyone is predicting spoiled F2 goes home heartbroken. I am still rooting 100 percent for Nick as F1. Why? Because with EVERY media outlet telling us Josh is 100 percent F1, it reminds me of literally the LAST time that I was fooled by Fleiss and that was Deanna's season with Jason Mesnick vs. Jessee.

Predicted to happen in polls: JASON

From RealityTV site: "On Monday night's season finale of "The Bachelorette" DeAnna Pappas will choose either Jason, the single father or Jesse the pro snowboarder. My guess, and yours too judging by the poll results, is that she will pick Jason."

What actually happened ... KABOOM!!

"Bachelorette Finale Shocker: DeAnna Pappas Chooses Jessee"

"Deanna Pappas Pulls Off Bachelorette Shocker"

"‘Bachelorette’ finale: I can't believe DeAnna picked Jesse the 'rad' snowboarder"

Hollywood Life Recap:
"On the season finale of The Bachelorette, DeAnna Pappas shocked America (and Jason Mesnick) by getting engaged to Jesse Csincsak. Devastated and shell-shocked after his rejection, Jason headed home in his limo alone as DeAnna met Jesse at the final rose ceremony."

***

Good news ... nobody had to feel too sorry for the devastated Jason for long. All his tears in the limo made for a great intro to his Bachelor season.

So let's sit back, take a deep breath, relax and take comfort in the fact that while America will be shocked with Andi's pick, we won't be!

Team SaltyNickPeanutButterRedWine knows it's conceivable!

***
chris viall @cviall11     ·   Jul 6    
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means"
Princess Bride. Top 5 all time! #teamnick

         :bigsmile:    

[Jeepers]

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For the plane video my favorite daydream outcome would be for Jimmy Kimmel to pop up over the seat as the person filming Nick.

For this IG pic.. I'd most like it to be Nick, Andi and Josh toasting to the mind game they just played on #merica.    

nick_viall28 A little Friday happy hour. #chicago #summer 1h
http://web.stagram.com/p/767586667064397159_28313266#cXgWszrgcQRXXc1K.99

Could well be that this is Nick .. His bestie female friend and her hubby.....

[nutty1]

I will be so glad in 2 weeks when we will know one way or another.  I am not a fan of suspense!    That's probably why I have been known to check the back of the book I am reading, long before I get there.   

Brill, you have to join the "I am unable to not be spoiled club" with me and Pander.  I always read the back of the book and want to know the end of movies.  My hubby mocks me for it!

Nick is good, so I am trying to just stay strong until July 28th.  Then I am so looking forward to the fun of mocking people on BiP.  I need a little crappy fun after this season.

I also read the ending to a book! I'll even google the end of a movie.   

[Guest]

you are sneaky NR!!

ahhh, the 'secret code' only these two great mindgamers know   

[nutty1]

The only reason I could believe it's an old picture is because he did that last week.

[Guest]

Hi Team Salty! It's the dreaded time before the finale when everyone is predicting spoiled F2 goes home heartbroken. I am still rooting 100 percent for Nick as F1. Why? Because with EVERY media outlet telling us Josh is 100 percent F1, it reminds me of literally the LAST time that I was fooled by Fleiss and that was Deanna's season with Jason Mesnick vs. Jessee.

Predicted to happen in polls: JASON

From RealityTV site: "On Monday night's season finale of "The Bachelorette" DeAnna Pappas will choose either Jason, the single father or Jesse the pro snowboarder. My guess, and yours too judging by the poll results, is that she will pick Jason."

What actually happened ... KABOOM!!

"Bachelorette Finale Shocker: DeAnna Pappas Chooses Jessee"

"Deanna Pappas Pulls Off Bachelorette Shocker"

"‘Bachelorette’ finale: I can't believe DeAnna picked Jesse the 'rad' snowboarder"

Hollywood Life Recap:
"On the season finale of The Bachelorette, DeAnna Pappas shocked America (and Jason Mesnick) by getting engaged to Jesse Csincsak. Devastated and shell-shocked after his rejection, Jason headed home in his limo alone as DeAnna met Jesse at the final rose ceremony."

***

Good news ... nobody had to feel too sorry for the devastated Jason for long. All his tears in the limo made for a great intro to his Bachelor season.

So let's sit back, take a deep breath, relax and take comfort in the fact that while America will be shocked with Andi's pick, we won't be!

Team SaltyNickPeanutButterRedWine knows it's conceivable!

***
chris viall @cviall11     ·   Jul 6    
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means"
Princess Bride. Top 5 all time! #teamnick

         :bigsmile:    

well said MVMom!   at this point its not about the F1 or Kaboom for me anymore. its when the impending danger is to be personified.

i suspect Mr. Chris V will be there at the ATFR when we finally get to see a glimpse of ' Princess (Andi) Bride' come to a realization.

[stuckinsc]

The only reason I could believe it's an old picture is because he did that last week.

Totally agree. Nick is playing tricky, now I am going in my own mind to believe it is Andi, Josh and Nick laughing at RS. Again, I can be delusional until I am proven wrong.

Loved your post MVmom. I don't like Jason, but I love Josh, so him as bachelor would make me very happy! Just like Pharell, thank you for that dose of cheer NR.

I love the Nick Chicks, as I have decided to call us. So Keep Calm and Nick On, Nick Chicks!

[notarose]

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For the plane video my favorite daydream outcome would be for Jimmy Kimmel to pop up over the seat as the person filming Nick.

For this IG pic.. I'd most like it to be Nick, Andi and Josh toasting to the mind game they just played on #merica.    

nick_viall28 A little Friday happy hour. #chicago #summer 1h
http://web.stagram.com/p/767586667064397159_28313266#cXgWszrgcQRXXc1K.99

Could well be that this is Nick .. His bestie female friend and her hubby.....

If anyone wants to SC several pics of Nick's hands so we can analyze and compare, I'm all for that   

Possible screen shots:
- courthouse tower when he pushes her hand down so he can lead the kiss
- casino when stroked her inner leg then fit his fingers between hers
- Venice when she had her sideboob moment and his hand rested below
- Belguim post-Abbey when he rose from the table running his hand from her knee to her hip
- DR when he lifted her from the sea then effortlessly righted her snug against his body

Gotta hand it to him, he knows how to let his body talk.

[MVMom39forever]

Nick FANS ... here's why I think Nick is final one ...

- Nick posting and removing two photos of him on IG soon after returning: 1) messy haired, bare chested looking to side (like he just woke up during SH visit) and 2) one of the ones on red bench/earpiece showing  

- Tweet from Nick's dad about favorite scene from Princess Bride re: inconceivable w/hashtag #TeamNick. Now his Princess Bride references takes on bigger relevance considering Nick's story book for Princess Andi!

- Andi and Nick's tweets about red wine and peanut butter; calling Bella (whom Andi said could be a future lawyer) "little peanut." So does that mean Nick's code name is "red wine" and Andi's is "peanut butter." Well, according to Andi, they go great together.

- Andi saying in very recent interviews that she wanted to Shout her pick; Nick posting Shout song ... this was too blatant of him to tweet so I bet ABC PR team told him to pull back. Notice that Nick's newer tweets are back to being mixed messages? I need hug ...

- Plane video weirdness ... and isn't there the ever so slight possibility that guy in video could be Nick's look alike brother with an earpiece who just so happened to be absent from the HTD but they flashed his picture on wall. I know we saw a photo of one of Nick's brothers here and we all thought it was Nick.

- The entire season ... Nick getting more time with Andi than any former winner ... First impression rose, GDR ep 4, solo date on ep 3/6, secret time Brussels, "most important rose of season" per Andi with rose going into HTD ... her frequent references to "mental/emotional/intellectual/passion/chemistry" etc.

- Meet her dad's expectations ... we all know how critical her dad was that Andi didn't get much time with JP so you can bet he is going to expect that his daughter gives her F1 loads of time/attention.

- Did anyone listen to last AfterBuzz Bachelorette recap? Danny Hoyt mentions that he has exchanged about 10 DMs w/Nick for past 2 weeks and then later (about 27 minutes in) he briefly mentions that he got a couple of snapchats during MTA taping weekend, which is when both Nick and Andi were in LA. Both JC and Cathy asked Danny to say more and he just said, "Nope!" Danny is 100 percent Team Nick for F1. This mention is so subtle and happens so fast that it's easy to miss. Listen for it!

- Andi resigned from job - which she claimed to LOVE. Yes, she kept door open for possible rehire in December. But wouldn't she have to say that in letter to keep the foiler going? And, wouldn't she have to resign if she was going to start looking for jobs in Chicago, which BTW is about 1 1/2 hour plane ride from her family in Atlanta so nice and close.

- ALL this noise now about Josh being F1 ... too loud!

- RS getting way too many clues falling into his lap ... too easy!

- And, FINALLY, what really convinces me is Chris Harrison's last blog  

CHRIS BLOG ...

"Josh is her type, he’s the comfortable choice she’s fallen for many times during her life. This obviously hasn’t worked out so well in the past and that’s why she’s been so worried about this relationship and so skeptical of Josh all along. She’s worried about making the same old mistake. But the problem with the “comfort zone” is it’s so darn comfortable. It just feels right even if it’s not.”

“Nick, on the other hand is the unknown, the road or “rose” less traveled. Nick is the kind of relationship and guy I think Andi aspires to be with. A guy she’s never really given herself a chance to fall for. Nick is a guy who will challenge her and push her in ways she’s never known before. The problem with the “road less traveled” guy is at the end of the day when the pressure is on, can Andi really pull the trigger and choose this different lifestyle?"

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The "problem" that Chris sets up with Andi picking Josh is negative towards the type of relationship Josh offers ... a "mistake."

Whereas "the problem" that Chris sets up with Andi picking Nick is really all about Andi ... "can SHE pull the trigger"? ... is SHE strong enough ... did SHE grow from experience ABC offered her?

Unless ABC is going to start throwing Andi under the bus (and I don't see why at this stage), Fleiss & Co wants to present Andi as someone very capable of pulling the trigger!

Shoot, they showed us lots of footage of Andi pulling triggers in Juan Pablo's season so we know YES, she can shoot to win.

Andi has been a good soldier for ABC all season. Chris has called her one of the smartest Bachelorettes ever. They are not going to show her in a bad light at this stage and making a decision that Chris H referenced as being a mistake.

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So, that's all I got. What did I miss?

TeamNick ... F1 on July 28 ... KABOOM!

[unknown82]

you are sneaky NR!!

ahhh, the 'secret code' only these two great mindgamers know   

Yep... That F3 rose ceremony was so telling.... Nick couldn't keep from laughing .... They are both great at mind games.  Two peas in a pod!  Partners in crime... :cutesmile!:

[stuckinsc]

Nick FANS ... here's why I think Nick is final one ...

- Nick posting and removing two photos of him on IG soon after returning: 1) messy haired, bare chested looking to side (like he just woke up during SH visit) and 2) one of the ones on red bench/earpiece showing  

- Tweet from Nick's dad about favorite scene from Princess Bride re: inconceivable w/hashtag #TeamNick. Now his Princess Bride references takes on bigger relevance considering Nick's story book for Princess Andi!

- Andi and Nick's tweets about red wine and peanut butter; calling Bella (whom Andi said could be a future lawyer) "little peanut." So does that mean Nick's code name is "red wine" and Andi's is "peanut butter." Well, according to Andi, they go great together.

- Andi saying in very recent interviews that she wanted to Shout her pick; Nick posting Shout song ... this was too blatant of him to tweet so I bet ABC PR team told him to pull back. Notice that Nick's newer tweets are back to being mixed messages? I need hug ...

- Plane video weirdness ... and isn't there the ever so slight possibility that guy in video could be Nick's look alike brother with an earpiece who just so happened to be absent from the HTD but they flashed his picture on wall. I know we saw a photo of one of Nick's brothers here and we all thought it was Nick.

- The entire season ... Nick getting more time with Andi than any former winner ... First impression rose, GDR ep 4, solo date on ep 3/6, secret time Brussels, "most important rose of season" per Andi with rose going into HTD ... her frequent references to "mental/emotional/intellectual/passion/chemistry" etc.

- Meet her dad's expectations ... we all know how critical her dad was that Andi didn't get much time with JP so you can bet he is going to expect that his daughter gives her F1 loads of time/attention.

- Did anyone listen to last AfterBuzz Bachelorette recap? Danny Hoyt mentions that he has exchanged about 10 DMs w/Nick for past 2 weeks and then later (about 27 minutes in) he briefly mentions that he got a couple of snapchats during MTA taping weekend, which is when both Nick and Andi were in LA. Both JC and Cathy asked Danny to say more and he just said, "Nope!" Danny is 100 percent Team Nick for F1. This mention is so subtle and happens so fast that it's easy to miss. Listen for it!

- Andi resigned from job - which she claimed to LOVE. Yes, she kept door open for possible rehire in December. But wouldn't she have to say that in letter to keep the foiler going? And, wouldn't she have to resign if she was going to start looking for jobs in Chicago, which BTW is about 1 1/2 hour plane ride from her family in Atlanta so nice and close.

- ALL this noise now about Josh being F1 ... too loud!

- RS getting way too many clues falling into his lap ... too easy!

- And, FINALLY, what really convinces me is Chris Harrison's last blog  

CHRIS BLOG ...

"Josh is her type, he’s the comfortable choice she’s fallen for many times during her life. This obviously hasn’t worked out so well in the past and that’s why she’s been so worried about this relationship and so skeptical of Josh all along. She’s worried about making the same old mistake. But the problem with the “comfort zone” is it’s so darn comfortable. It just feels right even if it’s not.”

“Nick, on the other hand is the unknown, the road or “rose” less traveled. Nick is the kind of relationship and guy I think Andi aspires to be with. A guy she’s never really given herself a chance to fall for. Nick is a guy who will challenge her and push her in ways she’s never known before. The problem with the “road less traveled” guy is at the end of the day when the pressure is on, can Andi really pull the trigger and choose this different lifestyle?"

***

The "problem" that Chris sets up with Andi picking Josh is negative towards the type of relationship Josh offers ... a "mistake."

Whereas "the problem" that Chris sets up with Andi picking Nick is really all about Andi ... "can SHE pull the trigger"? ... is SHE strong enough ... did SHE grow from experience ABC offered her?

Unless ABC is going to start throwing Andi under the bus (and I don't see why at this stage), Fleiss & Co wants to present Andi as someone very capable of pulling the trigger!

Shoot, they showed us lots of footage of Andi pulling triggers in Juan Pablo's season so we know YES, she can shoot to win.

Andi has been a good soldier for ABC all season. Chris has called her one of the smartest Bachelorettes ever. They are not going to show her in a bad light at this stage and making a decision that Chris H referenced as being a mistake.

***

So, that's all I got. What did I miss?

TeamNick ... F1 on July 28 ... KABOOM!

Great Post MVMom! I will be so happy if RS is eating crow on July 28th. Since, I am convinced Josh would be the next bachelor, I am not even worried about a broken hearted F2 in this case.

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