Re: Josh Murray Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Thread #7

[MJC1969]

Hy is so Cute

Hy Dorfman ‏@HyDorfman 21m
One daughter looks for a husband. The other searches for this stuff. Go marine biologist!

[MJC1969]

Sorry computer having a mind of it's own  :Nod: 

[soccermom333]

Sure you're right Turtle thanks!  Just started thinking about ATFR, something tells me the couch reunion could be a bit confrontational.. hopefully not uncomfortable for Lauren Murray to watch with the group at her charity event?    

The thing is that we are experiencing this in a time lag, but the family of the F1 and Andi, and certainly Andi and her F1 (Josh IMO) have moved beyond this.  The engagement was May 9th, the conversations and post mortems will have been had and if there is a momentary time of discomfort at the ATFR it will be short-lived and in context of the bigger picture - the rest of their lives as a family.  NBD.

I agree. I'm sure that Josh knows everything that went down during filming, including what may or may not have happened with Nick in the FS, and he's apparently okay with it because he hasn't ditched her yet! I don't know that he's necessarily watching her scenes with Nick, but I really wouldn't hold that against him. And as far as ATFR goes, Josh and Nick won't even be onstage together at the same time. (Remember when they used to do that, years ago? I'm thinking about Meredith's ATFR in particular. AWKWARD.) Everybody will be completely over it and moving on with their lives as of 10:59 pm Pacific Time on ATFR night!

Josh and Andi are fine and have moved beyond this. I personally don't believe she slept with anyone but Josh. IMO I am sure she told him this too. Now, if by chance she did sleep with Nick, she has already told him and they have moved past it. All the SM clues tell me that. This show wrapped over 2 1/2 months ago. They moved on and so should we. ;) This seems to happen every season.

[teachturtle]

You know I was thinking that too, glad it's not him I liked him on the show and didn't want to have to unlike him for messing with Josh

Me too! Thanks for clearing that up for me!

[nannymargie]

You know I was thinking that too, glad it's not him I liked him on the show and didn't want to have to unlike him for messing with Josh

Me too!  Thanks for clearing that up for me!

I was thinking the same thing. So not mess with our JODI!

[nannymargie]

I don't know about you guys, but I thought Nick and Josh's video messages were quite clear as to what transpired. To me, it seemed that Nick and Andi just had a couple of make out sessions - hence Nick referencing a couple of intense moments. With Josh, IMO, she seemed to have had a much more intimate night - hence his reference to her waking up in HIS bed every morning and having pictured her as his WIFE. Thoughts?

 Exactly what I thought .   They gave us the clues during the show last night too.

Nick's date consisted of a bedtime story, hugs and kisses and lights out.  He even wore his jammies. 

Josh's date OTOH,  Foreplay.  The whole dang date was foreplay.   I bet Josh's swim trunks looked like a tent when he came out of the pool. 

   

[1funnyfish]

Noticed something in this past episode that almost gives everything away.

During the dinner portion of Josh and Andi's date, we see Andi in two different ITM's. She is wearing the exact same clothes in both, but in one of them she is clearly wearing much more makeup than in the other. I looked at the picture of her look at the FRC, and it looks like an almost perfect match. It looks like one ITM was filmed that night, and the other one was filmed after Josh proposed. The PI happens twice:

The first occurs at 3:56 here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkQiZiBO3to "There is definitely a lot of chemistry between the two of us."

And at 4:29 here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=694BkrcAT2c "I mean it does make me feel much better hearing the words out of his mouth that he loves me and like, not even just hearing the words, but like knowing it, like I do know that, deep down."

All the other ITM's were of her wearing that night's makeup. If anyone knows how to screencap the clip of her wearing that night's makeup and the one of her wearing the FRC makeup and compare them to the shot of her FRC look, that would be so amazing and we might have visual evidence!

I'm so excited to watch Josh's proposal! 12 more days!

[timfan]

Andi And Catherine are having fun on Twitter ...don't have a clue what their talking about, does anybody else ???

They are talking about some guy on twitter who was more or less saying catherine clowe notes were cheesy

[Spencer81]

I don't know about you guys, but I thought Nick and Josh's video messages were quite clear as to what transpired. To me, it seemed that Nick and Andi just had a couple of make out sessions - hence Nick referencing a couple of intense moments. With Josh, IMO, she seemed to have had a much more intimate night - hence his reference to her waking up in HIS bed every morning and having pictured her as his WIFE. Thoughts?

I agree. I feel like they 100% solidified their relationship in the FS. By the way they were looking at each other at the rose ceremony and what Josh said in the video, I think Andi might've told him she loves him and that he's her F1 and to hang in there while she has to go through the rest of the process. That's why he's so confident that she's going to be Andi Murray.

You too are reading my mind! I was thinking of this on the way home,, (I know, right) but Andi had a different demeanor at this RC. I could always tell when my friend had a good night with her hubby by looking at her! and Andi has that same smug, satisfied look! haha! And Josh seemed even more possesive than he normally does.. Hence the hott night together! Ian and Meredith were the same.. but these 2 will make it to the alter as Josh is more respectable with integrity!

[Guest]

Thought I’d take a minute (or two) and transcribe all the PI’s from the fantasy dates with Andi and Josh. It’s actually really neat to read the words and see what they say. To me, it’s very telling. Hope you enjoy.

Andi on Josh in Beginning of Episode
Josh has the personality that I think every girl is attracted to. He’s very outgoing and funny and lively. And I have so much fun with Josh. I mean we can be doing anything together and have a good time because he’s just so easygoing. He just says whatever’s on his mind and it’s like funny and endearing. He’s self-deprecating and it’s funny. He just has that dark hair, those piercing eyes and his, like, olive skin. You know, he’s tall, he’s built. I can be my complete self with Josh. Like my brattyness, my divaness. I feel like he just looks in my eyes and he sees who I am. I feel over the moon like, giddy unbelievable with Josh. I do, it’s just so easy and natural and exciting. He’s kind. He’s compassionate. He has the potential to be a great father. Those are qualities that I’m definitely looking for in a husband.

Andi PI – beginning day time part of date
You know my relationship with Josh obviously, is great, but it’s also nerve-racking. You know it’s like how much pressure am I putting on this date? On tonight, like I need to just relax and let it all kind of flow. But it would be nice to kind of hear Josh really put out there what his feelings are. I mean , he said that he is falling in love, um which is great but at this point like I don’t know I might need a little more than that.

Andi PI - during daytime
When I’m with Josh I feel young and vibrant. And I can’t help but always want to kind of be near Josh. I’m drawn to him. It’s hot when a man not only can speak Spanish when we’re in the Dominican Republic but he just takes charge. It’s like there’s times where there’s no filter and I like that about him. Like, he’s funny. He’s gonna say what’s on his mind. It’s like “yeah I want that. Aphrodisiac  oh yea, I don’t know what it is, but I’ll try it.”

But he was so cute doing it. Josh is just fun in that way. He doesn’t have to be good. He doesn’t care what he looks like. He just wants to dance and have fun.
When I’m with Josh I definitely get giddy. Obviously I always have a great time with him, but this exceeded my expectations.

Andi PI -During baseball game
I mean, he was like a little kid on Christmas. He was like so excited and so happy. When I see Josh with kids I can see that future father, like that makes me have deeper feelings for him. Like you can say all day long you’re going to be a great father but when you actually see him with kids it’s just so natural. They gravitate towards him. He’s awesome with them. He’s high fiving them, teaching them stuff. They worshiped him, they loved him. It was so cute.

Josh PI– after baseball date
The way I feel for Andi, like I’ve never felt like it before in my life. It’s a great feeling. It really is a great feeling. And I’ve waited 29 years to have this feeling and I finally have it and I definitely don’t want to let it go. I am definitely in love with Andi and it’s definitely gone through the roof. I don’t know what beyond love is but I’m definitely beyond it right now. I feel good about her and I, very good.

Andi PI - after Josh says he loves her
Today’s just been amazing. Like I’m so happy and relieved. Like Josh is telling me how he feels. And I don’t know, just to hear out of his mouth, that he loves me is you know, more than I expected, more than I can ask for. And I’m excited for tonight. And I hope it goes as good as today’s gone.

Andi PI – beginning of Night time Date
Today was a blast, had a ton of fun and tonight Josh and I are gonna have dinner at Casa de Campo. It’s a beautiful resort, one of the best on the entire island. There’s definitely a lot of chemistry between the two of us. But going into tonights dinner I know there’s a fantasy suite card and the hurdle for me right now with Josh is like, I gotta know that he’s a serious guy when it, when it comes down to it. He’s always happy, and I love that about him but I do need to know that he’s serious about getting down on one knee and like being married and having a family. So I don’t know, there’s a lot riding on tonight.

Andi PI –during dinner
I mean it’s definitely relieving to be here sitting talking to Josh and to know that we’re on the same page with what we want, with the future and family and you know we don’t know what type of parents we would be but we can talk about it. I think tonight’s conversation is proving that not only do I have fun with him and feel like young and vibrant but there is that maturity and that seriousness. I does make me feel much better hearing the words out of his mouth that he loves me and not even just hearing the words but knowing it. I do know that deep down.

Josh PI – after dinner
Never in my wildest dreams did I think everything would be going this smoothly. Everything now is just following so much easier, everything just feels real good now. It was such a romantic moment. It was a great night. To hold the woman that I love in my arms and to gaze out at the stars and the fireworks. It’s moments like that that you just sit back and you treasure those moments.

I’ve never dated anyone as amazing as Andi. She is the most amazing woman that I’ve ever been with. She gives me that pit in my stomach where I’ve never had that before when I have feelings for somebody. It’s tough to put a finger on it or words to describe it but um you know I just really love being with her.  It’s so much fun thinking about my future with Andi as my wife. Now that it’s coming down to the end and I’m having these feelings for her and I want to get down on one knee and propose. Tonight’s a very big deal. What I can offer to Andi is unconditional love, unconditional support.  I can protect her from anything, I can always be there for her. I can be a loving husband, a great father, somebody she can spend the rest of her life with that she can trust always, and will always be there for her. That feels good to finally find the woman of my dreams, the woman I want to spend the rest of my life with. And although it hasn’t come to that point yet, you know where she is my wife and I’ve got to wait and she’s gotta decide at the end of the day, I really hope everything happens how I feel it will.

[Alanna]

Thought I’d take a minute (or two) and transcribe all the PI’s from the fantasy dates with Andi and Josh. It’s actually really neat to read the words and see what they say. To me, it’s very telling. Hope you enjoy.

[snipped]

Thanks for posting!!

This is the most telling one to me:

Andi PI - after Josh says he loves her
Today’s just been amazing. Like I’m so happy and relieved. Like Josh is telling me how he feels. And I don’t know, just to hear out of his mouth, that he loves me is you know, more than I expected, more than I can ask for. And I’m excited for tonight. And I hope it goes as good as today’s gone.

More than she can ask for is hearing Josh say he's in love with her? Isn't that the point of the exercise here? For the contestants to be in love with the lead? I think she might be a little confused here! She's so cute!!

Josh's PI in the pool I think was done post show. Just the way he's talking, so seriously, it makes me think that this now real life and not filming anymore. Do we know where the location was when we saw him in that hoodie?

Also, I find it really interesting that Josh tells her he loves her and he's going to protect her and be there for her unconditionally, but unlike Nick, he doesn't say WHAT he loves about her, or at least we don't see it. At the same time though, he is constantly hugging her, kissing her, grabbing her, and all over her where Nick tends to hang back a little in that department. Just an interesting contrast!

[soccermom333]

I agree and think when Andi heard Josh say everything she had been waiting to hear, her heart was his. ;) He was so sincere and she knew that not only was he envisioning a life with her, but she too was thinking Josh could be her husband.   

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