Re: Josh Murray Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Thread #5

[Spencer81]

I saw on another board where both Josh's folks have had incidents with cancer. That was why he stepped in to help out with his siblings. Makes me like him even more! Guess he didn't want to bring it up but ppl report on everything.

[Guest]

I saw on another board where both Josh's folks have had incidents with cancer.  That was why he stepped in to help out with his siblings.  Makes me like him even more!  Guess he didn't want to bring it up but ppl report on everything.  

Yes!  I'm sure that probably came up during the HTD but producers made it seems all the talked about was Aaron and  football.

I wonder if he was dealing with his parents cancer while baseball was going on. He was only 17 years old playing with older guys.

[Guest]

Gosh this whole baseball thing makes me sad. Who knows what the truth is but watching the episode, I got the impression that Josh feels he's a disappointment to himself and his parents for his failed career, and has essentially devoted himself to Aaron and his career to "make up" for his own lack of success. I think Andi must have felt the same with how protective she got over him and kept repeating herself that Josh is important too. 

Josh seems to always be his siblings' and especially Aaron's cheerleader, and I think he needs one of his own. I can see Josh loving and doting on Andi and in return she can be his biggest supporter, considering how she thinks he's the greatest thing ever since the moment she met him anyway.

I agree! From the HTD preview I thought Andi was going to make it about her but I was so impressed with how she was being protective of him. It seemed natural and I know She will always have his back.
I don't see how Andi could leave that HTD with any more concerns about Josh.

[ThankMeLater]

Along with her blog Sharleen does a index for Flare magazine and ranks the men each week. She put Josh at the number 1 spot and said this:


It’s almost eerie how seamlessly Andi fits into his family. They’re like-minded, athletic and generally seemed to be themselves around Andi—and she with them. I was a bit distracted by how much Andi looks like the fourth sibling of the Murray clan, but got over it quickly: Andi cares for Josh a lot, in the ways that matter. She was steadfastly supportive of him despite all the attention his brother was receiving. What I liked so much about this date was that it exposed Andi’s softer, less confrontational, more supportive and womanly side, which up until now I mostly only saw when she was with Nick. This was a HUGE deal for me and solidified Josh as my top frontrunner this week.

http://www.flare.com/celebrity/the-bachelorette-index-by-sharleen-joynt-2/

[Linds911]

Just wanted to post before I forget.  But I was watching the episode where all the guys are standing outside in Italy. She picks Nick to have a 1 on 1.  Watch Andi's eyes, they go right to Josh and then back to Nick.  As if to see his reaction or to give him some 'knowing' look.  

I noticed that as well. She is/was always making eye contact w/ him during the group dates and the RC's.

[cindebugg]

There's a timeline of his parent's illnesses floating around here somewhere.  His Mother was ill while he was playing baseball and his Dad was diagnosed with Thyroid cancer in 2012.  Listening to Josh it sounds to me like he had a lot of time to reflect on what he really wanted in life while he was recovering from his injuries.  He realized the dream wasn't going to be a reality so he regrouped and went back to school.  When Aaron ended up at UGA Josh saw an opportunity to tag along and keep Aaron grounded. Bonus that he was able to play football with his brother.
 My oldest brother did the same thing when my youngest brother was playing college ball.

[Eagle Eye]

Gosh this whole baseball thing makes me sad. Who knows what the truth is but watching the episode, I got the impression that Josh feels he's a disappointment to himself and his parents for his failed career, and has essentially devoted himself to Aaron and his career to "make up" for his own lack of success. I think Andi must have felt the same with how protective she got over him and kept repeating herself that Josh is important too. 

Josh seems to always be his siblings' and especially Aaron's cheerleader, and I think he needs one of his own. I can see Josh loving and doting on Andi and in return she can be his biggest supporter, considering how she thinks he's the greatest thing ever since the moment she met him anyway.

ITA, Alanna. My heart just broke for him when he talked about how hard it was to even come back to the field and pick up a bat or ball. I know that people think he's sketchy because they don't believe his claim that he gave it up because it wasn't conducive to having a family. And maybe I'm just willing to give him all sorts of slack because I flove him, but I don't blame him for not wanting to go on national TV and straight-up admit that he just wasn't good enough to make it as a pro. Doc brought over his amateur stats in another thread and he really was super talented -- you don't get drafted in the second round with an $800K signing bonus if you suck. For whatever reason he just didn't thrive in that environment, and it makes me so sad that he's still tortured by it and feels like a failure. I know it sounds stupid, but hopefully winning the girl, getting engaged and starting a new life with Andi will be a real confidence booster for him and get him out from under Aaron's shadow a little bit. Josh and Andi are such a team already and I love how she's completely got his back and is so protective of him even though he's such a big, strong guy. I think that her wiping his tears just might be my all-time favourite Jodi moment so far. She's so sweet and so crazy about him.

Also, I'm totally wondering if Andi's going to grab his cheeks and tell him to "Don't do that thing when you do that face!" in the banner picture. I think she secretly loves it.   

ETA: Glad that Sharleen's finally come around. Not sure how she wasn't seeing Andi's "softer, less confrontational, more supportive and womanly side" during their date in Ghent, but better late than never.

[Spencer81]

It's after midnight and I have to work tomo!! But had to check in and then watch a few youtube videos of them!! good night!

[eliza3]

I just watched the American Young section of their date - again ;) I am struck by how close they keep their faces always and how totally absorbed in each other they are I know we have had love stories before - awesome ones, but these too are so into each other it's palpable Just love watching them love each other.

[1funnyfish]

The tweet Andi just favorited is VERY telling...... it's a blog about how smitten she is with Josh and that their body language says everything. She can't hold it in any longer!

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2014/07/11/bachelorette-andi-dorfman-body-language-real-and-refreshing-as-she-is-smitten-with-josh/

[soccermom333]

The tweet Andi just favorited is VERY telling...... it's a blog about how smitten she is with Josh and that their body language says everything. She can't hold it in any longer!

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2014/07/11/bachelorette-andi-dorfman-body-language-real-and-refreshing-as-she-is-smitten-with-josh/

Thanks!  I just read it and it is very telling.  Josh is her man!! "Perfect fit," she agrees.  Funny how the body language expert picked up on what posters here have been saying, that Josh will needs to cut the cord from his family and make Andi his priority.  

I believe he will, as his Mom said, and make Andi his number one priority and put himself first for once.  I see Josh as wanting a family and someone to share his life with.  He is ready and so is andi and as the "expert" has stated, they are a perfect fit.  ;)  

I do disagree with the expert on one point, and feel like Josh's family love him and will embrace Andi into their family and love her too.  She has made Josh happy and that is what a parent wants for their child.  I believe Josh's family is thrilled for him and feels he deserves this and it is his time.  ;)

[Jolena]

Just wanted to post before I forget.  But I was watching the episode where all the guys are standing outside in Italy. She picks Nick to have a 1 on 1.  Watch Andi's eyes, they go right to Josh and then back to Nick.  As if to see his reaction or to give him some 'knowing' look.  

I noticed that as well. She is/was always making eye contact w/ him during the group dates and the RC's.

I noticed she did the same thing on the lie detector group date. When she saw him shaking his head "no" not to open the results, she immediately tore them up. She always seems to look to see if she could read his thoughts when on a group. I think she also protected him on the 2nd group date when she gave him the FIR after that (steamy kissing scene)and said " I felt sorry for him I had to throw him a bone" . She didn't want him to be a target . Also noticed that the boys to men date they said to her that when they sing " I'll make love to you" that she should kind of focus and look at the one man that she has her eye on ,and sure enough when she is singing that she glances directly towards josh., the camera's are hiding Josh a bit but you can see that he is who she is directing that to. I don't think any other guy stood a chance once she set eyes on Josh. JMO of course.

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