Re: Bachelor In Paradise - General Discussion - *Spoilers* Thread #2

[pander3575]

I hear it as Graham saying even though MM said that, in the end, it was his choice to break up with Ashlee.

That's what I heard. I think we saw hints of Graham's doubts in previous shows.

[JBF]

Hmmm.....

Déjà vu...

Scenario #1:

AshLee tells Zack that Clare is a #$@% who went "all the way" with Juan Pablo in Panama. He doesn't believe her and says in a PI session that he doesn't care "what happened" in Juan's season. However, both she and Christy, who (when refused the date card) questioned him if his relationship with Clare was "too fast, too soon", still impacted things. When he repeated what was "suggested" by these women with Clare... Are we too physical? (AshLee was also suggesting that.) Is this relationship too fast too soon?... Clare spazzed out and abruptly left.

Did Zack ever want a "relationship" with anybody on the show? Unfortunately, I see less between him and Jackie than I did with Clare, making me think Jackie's indecision becomes an "excuse" for their (per spoilers) mutual break up.

Scenario #2... or "What goes around comes around", as Chris Harrison said (paraphrasing) in a blog referencing the finale.

Now AshLee is in Clare's position. Michelle tells Graham twice that AshLee is one way when the cameras are on and different at other times. (The incident with Zack and Clare got Michelle watching her like a hawk.) Like Zack and his "whatever happened during Juan's season doesn't matter" speech, Graham says "I make my own decisions about my life and whatever direction I chose to walk in my life. Her guidance is always heard and appreciated but is not the deciding factor."

Does Graham want a committed "relationship" anymore than Zack? Both guys looked very happy in Toronto with their bro-buddies.

... and what about Robert and Chris?

Scenario #3 is different in its set-up:

Sarah is curious about Brooks, but Robert tells him that he will "kill him" if he asks Sarah on a date. Yet Sarah is still curious. These two struggle with the romantic side of their relationship, operating better as friends.

Scenario #4

Chris Bukowski had his injury and had to leave the show. Elise had to demonstrate that she isn't wishy washy after her Dylan switcheroo, so she joins him off the show as his "committed" girlfriend. Yet both mutually broke up post-show per online reports. Nobody was "broken hearted" as Sarah was fearing back in episode #3.

Concluding question:

Do these people just want to be on TV and are not here "to find love"? That is, in its LONGTERM format. Just a "summer of love". Thus, they need "help" by other contestants and script writers (is any of this really real?) breaking up their showmances?

An older tweet, but ssssssoooooo significant.

Mike Fleiss @fleissmeister · Sep 1
Congratulations to my entire production team for making a truly great show. And thanks to our fantastic cast. #BachelorInParadise is gold!!!

[GuardianAngel]

Good points JBF, especially what goes around comes around and that AshLee finds herself in the same position that she put Clare in. She doesn't seem phased by any of it. I see she tweets up a storm, all business related.

IMO they all went to be on TV. I don't think any of them expected anything more other than extending their fame.

I think the guys from Andi's season, especially Marcus, took a why not attitude. They already had a taste of what it's like to be involved in the Bachelor Franchise. For Marcus it turned out to be to his benefit in meeting Lacy and what appears to be an engagement.

I've enjoyed this crazy show. Is there any word on a second season?

[JBF]

That tweet of Fleissmeister above had some funny responses...

E V ‏@singleverde Sep 2
@fleissmeister oh brother. Our society is a sad bunch, but you were brilliant to take advantage of that



... and apparently this "is it really unscripted?" primetime soap (and don't you just love how the cast appear in groups as fellow working actors and actresses?) is popular enough that it will repeat next summer.

Andrea Strucinski ‏@AStrucinski Sep 2
@fleissmeister great show I loved it ! I haven't missed an episode, hope it's back for a 2nd season

[GuardianAngel]

Robert Mills @Millsy11374
On our last #BachelorMonday of 2014, we've got some very exciting news coming up this morning. Stay tuned!!

[emusha]

they're changing the airing days?? meanwhile what a trainwreck show but very well done from the production side -- the location, the incentive to get better variety of people on the show (def much better than the lottery/gameshow that bach pad was) i.e. guarantied money per episode, an influx of sexy people who ex-cast members would want to date... the incentive to couple up is also a good idea to keep things interesting... i think they stole that from love in the wild. and like anywhere real connections are also serendipitously going to happen -- be good if they keep improving the format but they might have finally semi-hacked their second show -- the gameshow of pad was too gimmicky imo

[Guest]

Robert Mills @Millsy11374
On our last #BachelorMonday of 2014, we've got some very exciting news coming up this morning. Stay tuned!!

Wonder if they'll announce Des and Chris' wedding date?

[albean99]

Maybe it's this:

Viewers enjoyed their summer romance with ABC’s Bachelor in Paradise so much that the network is renewing the reality TV spin-off for another season, which will premiere in summer 2015. The show, which follows former Bachelor and Bachelorette cast-offs as they look for “love” in a tropical setting, premiered August 4 and currently ranks as the No. 1 new summer series in the adults 18-49 demo. Bachelor in Paradise replacedBachelor Pad, which ran for three debaucherous seasons on ABC before getting cancelled. The BiP season 1 finale airs tonight at 8 p.m. on ABC.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/09/08/abc-renews-bachelor-in-paradise/

[GuardianAngel]

Maybe it's this:

Viewers enjoyed their summer romance with ABC’s Bachelor in Paradise so much that the network is renewing the reality TV spin-off for another season, which will premiere in summer 2015. The show, which follows former Bachelor and Bachelorette cast-offs as they look for “love” in a tropical setting, premiered August 4 and currently ranks as the No. 1 new summer series in the adults 18-49 demo. Bachelor in Paradise replacedBachelor Pad, which ran for three debaucherous seasons on ABC before getting cancelled. The BiP season 1 finale airs tonight at 8 p.m. on ABC.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/09/08/abc-renews-bachelor-in-paradise/

Good point! Maybe it's been renewed for a 2nd season because of this; me included.

E V ‏@singleverde Sep 2
@fleissmeister oh brother. Our society is a sad bunch, but you were brilliant to take advantage of that

[Luvstruck]

This show has given me something to look forward to on Mondays' this summer. Hope to see Michelle host next season, a wedding on the beach with Chris Harrison officiating for Marcus and Lacy, Clare back for 3rd times the charm, Brooks and Sara in at the beggining, Nick, Lindzi Cox coming in on horseback wearing bikini, Coach Osborne, Rachel Trueheart, Sharlene, Kyptin surfing and Reid Rosenthal for funny commentary (dream cast).

[albean99]

I think I'd rather my favorites find someone off the show so they're not available next year. I am okay that it's renewed because I liked it more than BP. I'm hoping they tweak it a bit and bring more in earlier.  It's tough for the later arrivals when most everyone is linked up. We also saw some of them have regrets that they were with someone when a favorite showed up. You may see more "break ups" next season.

[JBF]

This show has given me something to look forward to on Mondays' this summer. Hope to see Michelle host next season, a wedding on the beach with Chris Harrison officiating for Marcus and Lacy, Clare back for 3rd times the charm, Brooks and Sara in at the beggining, Nick, Lindzi Cox coming in on horseback wearing bikini, Coach Osborne, Rachel Trueheart, Sharlene, Kyptin surfing and Reid Rosenthal for funny commentary (dream cast).

Funnier still... would be Clare Bear and Zack (post Jackie) back to "start over" next summer.

Also Chris and Elise back for a third time, with or without each other.
... and Brooks and Sarah...
... and Graham and AshLee returning with new partners to seek adventure with. This would be like "single and ready to mingle" Jake Pavelka and his ex Vienna (with Kasey in tow) on one season of Bachelor Pad.

Yeah... bring back Reid Rosenthal. He must be bored doing whatever it is he does these days.

Heck, Ed would be amusing taking the place of Jesse.

I mean... the producers aren't serious about GENUINE matrimony coming out of this, are they?

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