Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #2

[Guest]

What do you make of Brian's prediction in Brussels that he bets Nick will be one of the final 2 and he'll walk away?  Now, he didn't say under what circumstances Nick would walk away.  The producers leave those Easter Eggs in the final cut for a reason.  If we're talking about her saying she's open to moving or she fell in love in Venice, then we need to consider all the go's and ITMs and conversations.

1st 1on1 date with Nick is SB ...

Andi: "If I develop real feelings for him I can turn him into a believer."

And she did ... turn him into a believer.
So, why would a TB franchise want to "destroy" someone who finally starts to believe into a show that lost a lot of "credibility" over the years?

She also said on her Venice 1 on 1 that "if she chooses Nick, she could say Venice is where she fell in love."  I think because of the spoiler, many are overlooking just about everything regarding Nick.

In the same week as Brian's prediction:
Nick knocks on Andi's hotel room door, she is initially worried, and him asks her to basically  "walk away" WITH him from the hotel. (The opposite of Brian's prediction)

Interestingly, almost every week what the guys say about Nick regarding him with Andi is proven wrong by Nick's actions.  
It seems the guys thought how Nick interacted with them was the same as how Nick interacted with Andi.  They also made a lot of assumptions which is actually just a normal thing to do.
What we can see (which they couldn't until they started watching the show) was that Nick with Andi was a completely different thing.  Maybe that's why many of the guys are actively involved with him on SM and that people like Chris actual flew to see him.  They might have realized they were wrong about Nick and Andi's relationship.

thanks for the insightful posts! after i refresh my memory, Brian was not the one with the walk-away prediction. It was Marcus   

[Hotmomma]

I posted this in another thread, but I thought you guys might want to ponder it as well.

Thanks Litta, rosesrREd brought this up yesterday about the time line of the tweet. I think you are both on to something!!  

I did notice this last night as well. If she uploaded that picture immediately, and most people do, there is no possible way that sunset picture was from Lake Lanier. Sunset was nearly 30 minutes later. It lines up with Waukesha sunset time of 8:34 PM, and the skies also line up with clear skies there also.

It just seems very odd to me that WI would be later sunset than GA.I thought the sun set East moving West?
And WI is west Of GA.

[Guest]

..maybe that she said good bye to Nick at his hometown..

Here's a screen shot of Nick at the final four rose ceremony.

So do you think Nick goes to comfort her?

Mura- you mentioned that Hy didn't like that Andi didn't get the priority roses last season with Jpabs and Nick has. I thought that was an important point you made. I don't know what will happen in the weeks to come, but so far she has given Nick plenty of reason to be confident and that's just based on the little they've actually shown us. He definitely gotten the most time with her.

With the sunset yesterday, does anyone find it to be too much of a coincidence that Josh posted at 8:21, Andi at 8:24 and Chris at 8:27? Is one person doing sm for them?

[Guest]

..maybe that she said good bye to Nick at his hometown..

Here's a screen shot of Nick at the final four rose ceremony.

So do you think Nick goes to comfort her?

Mura- you mentioned that Hy didn't like that Andi didn't get the priority roses last season with Jpabs and Nick has. I thought that was an important point you made. I don't know what will happen in the weeks to come, but so far she has given Nick plenty of reason to be confident and that's just based on the little they've actually shown us. He definitely gotten the most time with her.

With the sunset yesterday, does anyone find it to be too much of a coincidence that Josh posted at 8:21, Andi at 8:24 and Chris at 8:27? Is one person doing sm for them?

it is actually Notarose who mentioned that. Great find!...definitely an important point in the story board. The point is (not only the HTD rose) it bugged Hy so much that JPab only gave Meandi so little time (only one 1on1 date) last season. So, Hy would get Andi's 'hidden/unspoken messages' if he was told that Nick gotten the most alone time from her (mind you, it is a new Ette history : FIR + 2 1on1 + 1 SQT + HTD Rose...---and im leaning to ahem!..the FR as well on July 28th   ). Note that theTIME theme has always been intertwined in their storyboard as well : Nick checking his watch (ep.1) clocktower time (ep.3), clock in Venice (ep.6).

yes of course he is confident and not delusional--just as my PRince last year --since they got the reciprocations from the leads that are not shown (thanks to the sneaky editors). These guys are not that dumb.

yes the SM clues : it was Elan who posted all of that 'smoking gun' clues while having party with his ex- GFs   

[Guest]

Thanks Litta, rosesrREd brought this up yesterday about the time line of the tweet. I think you are both on to something!!  

I did notice this last night as well.  If she uploaded that picture immediately, and most people do, there is no possible way that sunset picture was from Lake Lanier.  Sunset was nearly 30 minutes later.  It lines up with Waukesha sunset time of 8:34 PM, and the skies also line up with clear skies there also.

It just seems very odd to me that WI would be later sunset than GA.I thought the sun set East moving West?
And WI is west Of GA.

It has something to do with the tilt of the earth. The farther north you go the longer the days in the summer. I think in some parts of Alaska they have daylight for 24 hrs a day in the summer.

[rosesrREd]

Thanks Litta, rosesrREd brought this up yesterday about the time line of the tweet. I think you are both on to something!!  

I did notice this last night as well.  If she uploaded that picture immediately, and most people do, there is no possible way that sunset picture was from Lake Lanier.  Sunset was nearly 30 minutes later.  It lines up with Waukesha sunset time of 8:34 PM, and the skies also line up with clear skies there also.

It just seems very odd to me that WI would be later sunset than GA.I thought the sun set East moving West?
And WI is west Of GA.

Sunset in Atlanta was 8:52 PM, and Milwaukee was 8:34 PM. So Wisconsin sunset was earlier as far as the time.

[SueSt]

Thanks Litta, rosesrREd brought this up yesterday about the time line of the tweet. I think you are both on to something!!  

I did notice this last night as well.  If she uploaded that picture immediately, and most people do, there is no possible way that sunset picture was from Lake Lanier.  Sunset was nearly 30 minutes later.  It lines up with Waukesha sunset time of 8:34 PM, and the skies also line up with clear skies there also.

It just seems very odd to me that WI would be later sunset than GA.I thought the sun set East moving West?
And WI is west Of GA.

I'm pretty sure latitude has something to do with it to; WI is north of GA... so later sunsets.

[Guest]

Here's a screen shot of Nick at the final four rose ceremony.

So do you think Nick goes to comfort her?

Mura- you mentioned that Hy didn't like that Andi didn't get the priority roses last season with Jpabs and Nick has. I thought that was an important point you made. I don't know what will happen in the weeks to come, but so far she has given Nick plenty of reason to be confident and that's just based on the little they've actually shown us. He definitely gotten the most time with her.

With the sunset yesterday, does anyone find it to be too much of a coincidence that Josh posted at 8:21, Andi at 8:24 and Chris at 8:27? Is one person doing sm for them?

it is actually Notarose who mentioned that. Great find!...definitely an important point in the story board. The point is (not only the HTD rose) it bugged Hy so much that JPab only gave Meandi so little time (only one 1on1 date) last season. So, Hy would get Andi's 'hidden/unspoken messages' if he was told that Nick gotten the most alone time from her (mind you, it is a new Ette history : FIR + 2 1on1 + 1 SQT + HTD Rose...---and im leaning to ahem!..the FR as well on July 28th   ). Note that theTIME theme has always been intertwined in their storyboard as well : Nick checking his watch (ep.1) clocktower time (ep.3), clock in Venice (ep.6).

yes of course he is confident and not delusional--just as my PRince last year --since they got the reciprocations from the leads that are not shown (thanks to the sneaky editors). These guys are not that dumb.

yes the SM clues : it was Elan who posted all of that 'smoking gun' clues while having party with his ex- GFs   

I would be all on board with you if it wasn't for that plane video!     I'm having a little trouble with that hurdle, but otherwise I see the love story and all the clues. Some are saying that Andi already started to scale it back with Nick, but she had the group date after Josh and I saw no scaling back there.

Do you think Nick follows her out of the room when she starts crying at the next rose ceremony? It will be fun to watch the other guys fuming if so.  :atomic:

[rosesrREd]

So do you think Nick goes to comfort her?

Mura- you mentioned that Hy didn't like that Andi didn't get the priority roses last season with Jpabs and Nick has. I thought that was an important point you made. I don't know what will happen in the weeks to come, but so far she has given Nick plenty of reason to be confident and that's just based on the little they've actually shown us. He definitely gotten the most time with her.

With the sunset yesterday, does anyone find it to be too much of a coincidence that Josh posted at 8:21, Andi at 8:24 and Chris at 8:27? Is one person doing sm for them?

it is actually Notarose who mentioned that. Great find!...definitely an important point in the story board. The point is (not only the HTD rose) it bugged Hy so much that JPab only gave Meandi so little time (only one 1on1 date) last season. So, Hy would get Andi's 'hidden/unspoken messages' if he was told that Nick gotten the most alone time from her (mind you, it is a new Ette history : FIR + 2 1on1 + 1 SQT + HTD Rose...---and im leaning to ahem!..the FR as well on July 28th   ). Note that theTIME theme has always been intertwined in their storyboard as well : Nick checking his watch (ep.1) clocktower time (ep.3), clock in Venice (ep.6).

yes of course he is confident and not delusional--just as my PRince last year --since they got the reciprocations from the leads that are not shown (thanks to the sneaky editors). These guys are not that dumb.

yes the SM clues : it was Elan who posted all of that 'smoking gun' clues while having party with his ex- GFs   

I would be all on board with you if it wasn't for that plane video!     I'm having a little trouble with that hurdle, but otherwise I see the love story and all the clues. Some are saying that Andi already started to scale it back with Nick, but she had the group date after Josh and I saw no scaling back there.

Do you think Nick follows her out of the room when she starts crying at the next rose ceremony? It will be fun to watch the other guys fuming if so.  :atomic:

There has been no scaling back as far as Nick is concerned. He snuck out to see her, spent probably an hour or so with her, then on the GD, he got the GD rose and extra time, because she wanted to spend more time with him. If anything it's progressing. If people are saying Andi is scaling back, it's because they don't want to see the progression, because all they can see is Josh as F1.

[Guest]

just need to decorate the thread! (thanks to emad..)

--THE SELFIE---









i  just found these  facts about these 2 pairing are interesting :

- both selfies were from an episode before HTD and shown with a copy of it appeared on the episode
- both guys are the spoiled F2 poor-brokenhearted guy   
- Nick feel the need to put the selfie in his IG with the hashtag #iwillneverforget  

[unknown82]

Another clue to point out ... When Andi was making out with Nick up against the tree in Belgium, she described their kisses saying that when she kissed him she could feel what he was thinking.  That to me indicates that when she kisses Nick it is something special and more meaningful and much deeper than the other people she has been kissing.  Honestly, with everything that Andi has said about Nick and their relationship, I can't see how she can explain herself to her F1 if Nick is F2.  On less she tells her F1 she didn't really mean what she said because she didn't have any real feelings for Nick.  But we all know that is not the case because Nick and Andi's Chemistry pops out from the screen.

[SueSt]

just need to decorate the thread! (thanks to emad..)

--THE SELFIE---









i  just found these  facts about these 2 pairing are interesting :

- both selfies were from an episode before HTD and shown with a copy of it appeared on the episode
- both guys are the spoiled F2 poor-brokenhearted guy   
- Nick feel the need to put the selfie in  his IG with the hashtag #iwillneverforget  

Nick's tweeted selfie and make-out picture from the last episode are really telling in my opinion.  I can not imagine any scenario where an F2 would be posting these pictures, particularly with an #iwillneverforget hashtag!!!  I mean, COME ON PEOPLE!!!! 

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